newmercman:
Read one of Carryfast’s posts from start to finish and then you’ll know the true meaning of despair
Now, personally, I think Carryfast is a very intelligent and educated poster, and that’s what some TruckNet members have the problem with.
All joking aside, CF and I are about as far apart as you can get on most issues, but I like the bloke, he has put up with more abuse than the rest of the members combined, yet has never got nasty, or bitter and that should be an example to us all.
He posts utter drivel most of the time, but that always seems to bring out more accurate posts from people arguing with him, so his madness actually benefits the forum. I myself have learned a lot from people posting contradictions to his posts.
He’s at the top of my trucknetuk members who I want a few pints with list.
I also think he’s a ringer, my guess to his teal identity is that he is Rikki’s alter ego
newmercman:
Read one of Carryfast’s posts from start to finish and then you’ll know the true meaning of despair
Now, personally, I think Carryfast is a very intelligent and educated poster, and that’s what some TruckNet members have the problem with.
All joking aside, CF and I are about as far apart as you can get on most issues, but I like the bloke, he has put up with more abuse than the rest of the members combined, yet has never got nasty, or bitter and that should be an example to us all.
He posts utter drivel most of the time, but that always seems to bring out more accurate posts from people arguing with him, so his madness actually benefits the forum. I myself have learned a lot from people posting contradictions to his posts.
He’s at the top of my trucknetuk members who I want a few pints with list.
I also think he’s a ringer, my guess to his teal identity is that he is Rikki’s alter ego
I agree with you he has took alot of abuse but hasn’t took it badly the right type of person to get full with As long as Luke’s not there something tells me they wouldn’t get along to well
newmercman:
Read one of Carryfast’s posts from start to finish and then you’ll know the true meaning of despair
Now, personally, I think Carryfast is a very intelligent and educated poster, and that’s what some TruckNet members have the problem with.
Yep far to clever and experienced for most of us. Remember the time he had to explain to Euromat how he’d taken the wrong route into Russia.
To be fair I was only a few hundred k’s out over a run of 1000’s.But having said that going my way might have saved about the same amount of distance in traffic jams and road works and driving on surfaces worse than the moon.Although I wouldn’t want to try using my route now especially if it was a white unit pulling a white tilt.
So… After all of that debate… Does anyone know any more details on how two Northern Ireland truckers are directly involved with this? They certainly don’t strike me as “Mr Big” type Traffickers… Were they the minnows at the end of a chain preparing to liberate these immigrants? A container from India would have been at sea for approximately four weeks…It seems more likely these people got on board in Belgium.
Riverstick:
So… After all of that debate… Does anyone know any more details on how two Northern Ireland truckers are directly involved with this? They certainly don’t strike me as “Mr Big” type Traffickers… Were they the minnows at the end of a chain preparing to liberate these immigrants? A container from India would have been at sea for approximately four weeks…It seems more likely these people got on board in Belgium.
I seem to recall hearing they’d been in the container for 18hours so sounds like they got in Belgium, or at least somewhere in Europe. Also not all containers are used for long distance work, some are short sea jobs, so it might have been loaded in Europe.
As for the 2 men pulled in for this, somebody had to get them in and I assume somebody would of had to let them out if the plan was to get into the UK and disappear as opposed to claim asylum.
So it sounds more like a new route via containers is now being exploited since the encampment in Calais has been dismantled.
If this is the case, a trucker who is totally unaware of what is inside the container is a better candidate to complete the job rather than one who knows. It would be unusual for a actual trafficker to execute a job like this.
Riverstick:
So it sounds more like a new route via containers is now being exploited since the encampment in Calais has been dismantled.
If this is the case, a trucker who is totally unaware of what is inside the container is a better candidate to complete the job rather than one who knows. It would be unusual for a actual trafficker to execute a job like this.
It would be interesting to hear the full story.
The full story will be interesting, if we ever hear it. The problem with being in a container is you are reliant on somebody letting you out if you want to get out without the authorities being involved. And if your aim or more likely the aim of your traffickers is to work illegally, they don’t want police involvement and their “cargo” being in the system so to speak.
Riverstick:
So it sounds more like a new route via containers is now being exploited since the encampment in Calais has been dismantled.
If this is the case, a trucker who is totally unaware of what is inside the container is a better candidate to complete the job rather than one who knows. It would be unusual for a actual trafficker to execute a job like this.
It would be interesting to hear the full story.
The full story will be interesting, if we ever hear it. The problem with being in a container is you are reliant on somebody letting you out if you want to get out without the authorities being involved. And if your aim or more likely the aim of your traffickers is to work illegally, they don’t want police involvement and their “cargo” being in the system so to speak.
The obvious question that proves that it’s all a government condoned scam is that the immigrants obviously seem to know that they’ve got more chance of being accepted if they can get in by whatever means first and then make the application afterwards.
As opposed to what would be expected of immediate deportation regardless in the case of any immigrants not arriving by the proper channels with the correct paperwork.
IE the latter would remove any incentive for such types of dodgy immigration methods.In which case why are the government applying a policy based on the former.
Where would you remove them to? They have no ID or papers on them so unless they tell you where they came from, unlikely I would imagine, you have nowhere to send them.
BillyHunt:
Where would you remove them to? They have no ID or papers on them so unless they tell you where they came from, unlikely I would imagine, you have nowhere to send them.
It’s EU (Bilderberg) policy to send them all to Britain, they are then able to work for peanuts, either under the radar or in a “reception center”
Britain is an island, so no danger of them wandering around the EU. Britain is earmarked to be the dumping ground for all the “undesirables” a bit like a modern day Australia, maybe it’s karma, but it sure is ironic.
BillyHunt:
Where would you remove them to? They have no ID or papers on them so unless they tell you where they came from, unlikely I would imagine, you have nowhere to send them.
It really isn’t difficult to tell who comes from where in the world and how can the government grant them ‘asylum’ if it doesn’t know how and why they are here.In this case they’ve admitted themselves they are ethnic Seikhs who are supposedly being persecuted in majority Muslim Afghanistan.So the answer is obvious they belong with their own in the Punjab.Now let me guess you don’t agree with India having to accept ethnic Indians because they have more connection with England instead.
newmercman:
It’s EU (Bilderberg) policy to send them all to Britain, they are then able to work for peanuts, either under the radar or in a “reception center”
Britain is an island, so no danger of them wandering around the EU. Britain is earmarked to be the dumping ground for all the “undesirables” a bit like a modern day Australia, maybe it’s karma, but it sure is ironic.
In the case of Oz many/most of the so called ‘undesirables’ were actually British workers who were deported for the ‘crime’ of standing up to their employers and the Georgian and Victorian sweatshop economy of the day.Which probably explains how the place turned out well in the end when those values of a fair day’s pay for a fair day’s work were passed down the generations.
In the case of the importation of slave/cheap labour I don’t think the Bilderberg group have even existed over the period that the idea has been used to make a bit of extra profit for the employers.If it exists at all.
Carryfast:
.Now let me guess you don’t agree with India having to accept ethnic Indians because they have more connection with England instead.
Then you would guess wrong, I don’t think we should keep them & would much prefer they be sent “home” wherever that is. It’s just that it’s easy to say it but not that easy to do it. We haven’t accepted them yet, we are just not the type of country that would deport people while needing hospital treatment, and I’m happy with that.
Fancy OZ turning out so well, what with all those immigrants and the like.
Carryfast:
.Now let me guess you don’t agree with India having to accept ethnic Indians because they have more connection with England instead.
Then you would guess wrong, I don’t think we should keep them & would much prefer they be sent “home” wherever that is. It’s just that it’s easy to say it but not that easy to do it. We haven’t accepted them yet, we are just not the type of country that would deport people while needing hospital treatment, and I’m happy with that.
Fancy OZ turning out so well, what with all those immigrants and the like.
The Common link between Oz,Canada and NZ being that their modern developed economies were all built on ethnic British colonisation not Asian or African immigration.
No one is saying that anyone should be denied emergency health treatment ( although it would be interesting to see what the Americans would do in a similar situation of a Brit trying to enter the country illegally and needing hospitalisation because of it ).
In this case at least those in question are obviously only temporarily incapacitated and are now healthy enough to claim asylum on the grounds that their life is untenable in Afghanistan.Which obviously leaves the far more suitable option for their culture in India.While finally sending a message to prospective immigrants and the traffickers that we’ve had enough and our borders are now closed.However that won’t suit the government’s cheap imported labour agenda.
OK imagine you’re an Afghani Sikh, you are being persecuted out of your homeland, would you go to another poor country or would you go to a place that offers you so much more?
You can’t blame the players, they never made the rules…
