My question is how long will it be before LGVs over 13 ton will be banned from overtaking on motorways and dualcarriageways like some routes in Italy?
The reason I say this is this week I have done hundreds of miles on our motorways as a car driver having to do lots of miles between appointments in a limited time and never realised what a pane in the ■■■ slow lorries overtaking in lane 2 are to the vast numbers of car drivers. Generally most car drivers drive at 80mph and whilst we all know its wrong that is the speed traffic in lane 2 and 3 travels at. When a truck trys to overtake another at 56 mph in lane 2 this causes major problems with seperation distances for the majority of motorway users. If it did happen , ie( trucks were banned from overtaking) truck drivers would only have themselves to blame through their own arrogant attitude towards other motorway users. (Tin hat on, hatches battern down.)
speed limiters are to blame. but they won’t see sense and get rid of them.
but if it does happen, then there will be a lot of accidents, car drivers cutting up trucks so they can make their junction. cutting in front of trucks from the slip road without giving way to oncomeing vehicles.
motorways are designed for trucks, not for cars.
miketdt:
The reason I say this is this week I have done hundreds of miles on our motorways as a car driver having to do lots of miles between appointments in a limited time
I could refer you to the reply to a similar question that I gave many years ago, except that it has long since been ‘archived’.
In essence, perhaps if the ‘shiny arsed brigade’ weren’t so intent on imposing ‘delivery times’ and ‘booking slots’, then things might be easier.
Did you not consider ‘tele-conferenceing’'?
Playing “Devil’s Advocate”, what was the need for you to physically attend these meetings, in person, and why were they scheduled within (such) a ‘limited time’?
One of my nephews, who now lives in the USA, attending a Business ‘Trade Show’ in London, was asked by a Company to travel to France to give a presentation. He declined, on the basis that he could equally provide such a presentation via the Internet. 
Dont think it will be the lorries that suffer IMHO…
The goverment want to bring speed limits down, because ‘global warming and the fuel shortage’ so to my mind, if it slows the whole network down then its saving fuel… Also another reason why we are more closly monitored on A roads, at one time we could do 50 and Plod would turn a blind eye, not so much now, smart cameras, plod on a misssion to make money so we are forced to run at the legal max of 40mph, plus the bonus for the Gov, is it slows you down as well…
Speed limiters do have a big issue in the overtaking on motorways, plus driving standards are maybe not as high as they should be, in so much as drivers being overtaken, just sit there, when they could ease off 1/2mph to allow the overtaking past a bit quicker…
Then again of course you have the numpty car driver hogging the centre lane at 50mph 
Your a Car driver ? How did your car get made? How did it get to the gararge you bought it from? How does your daily paper , and your weekly groceries get delivered?
Think again. No-one in their right mind would ban trucks from overtaking. There is still on most motorways a 3rd lane, that car divvies (drivers) can use to get past trucks. If your unlucky enough to get stuck behind one of us while were overtaking, then thats your fault for not spotting us earlier and moving into the 3rd lane in plenty of time.
It always pees me off when I drive down the M26 in the car and have to suffer six miles of “duelling juggernauts”
Ban them all from the outside lane is what I say.
BigJon:
. There is still on most motorways a 3rd lane, that car divvies (drivers) can use to get past trucks. If your unlucky enough to get stuck behind one of us while were overtaking, then thats your fault for not spotting us earlier and moving into the 3rd lane in plenty of time.
I don’t think you will find anything wrong with my observation skills, I didn’t say I was struck in lane 2, but as an advanced driver I keep to the correct seperation distance at speed and this causes others to switch lanes and slow down the traffic in lane 3.
I surpose that when I was an owner driver we could get our foot down and take it up to 65 or 70mph just to pass and then return to 60mph. Trucks holding everyone up for 2 miles whilst they overtake say on the A34 causes hundreds of vehicles to back up, just so one driver can save 2 minutes on his day. Think about it, I am not anti- truck, having spent 17 years driving owning and operating trucks and still involved in teaching LGV’s, but drivers will suffer if it did happen,it only takes one newspaper to speak to MPs
I completely agree, and as everybody knows, I am a truck driver myself.
I don’t drive like it. I can never understand why anyone does.
If a few brain-dead morons are banned from doing idiotic overtakes, then what’s the problem?
And there was me thinking motorways were built to give the military, goods and services quick and easy access around the country.
So that means all the lorrys in lane 1 can only go as fast as the slowest lorry. There will be a huge cue of lorrys, car drivers will then be moaning they can’t get on or off the motorway.
george3:
And there was me thinking motorways were built to give the military, goods and services quick and easy access around the country.
You are right- the reason bridge heights are so generous in the UK compared to mainland Europe is that our motorways were designed to transport American nuclear missiles around the UK during the Cold War.
But that has nothing to do with the tiny percentage of truck drivers who do these idiotic overtakes and I am sure that the vast majority of truck drivers are as fed up with it as I am.
miketdt:
My question is how long will it be before LGVs over 13 ton will be banned from overtaking on motorways and dualcarriageways like some routes in Italy?
The reason I say this is this week I have done hundreds of miles on our motorways as a car driver having to do lots of miles between appointments in a limited time and never realised what a pane in the ■■■ slow lorries overtaking in lane 2 are to the vast numbers of car drivers. Generally most car drivers drive at 80mph and whilst we all know its wrong that is the speed traffic in lane 2 and 3 travels at. When a truck trys to overtake another at 56 mph in lane 2 this causes major problems with seperation distances for the majority of motorway users. If it did happen , ie( trucks were banned from overtaking) truck drivers would only have themselves to blame through their own arrogant attitude towards other motorway users. (Tin hat on, hatches battern down.)
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the day i need to stick behind a tesco doing 50 for god knows how many miles is the day i chuck it, i agree to a extent with op that some overtakes are ridiculous but on the whole i get passed most things inside a minute, but this minute is too much for the BMW driver behind me it seems 
miketdt:
My question is how long will it be before LGVs over 13 ton will be banned from overtaking on motorways and dualcarriageways like some routes in Italy?
The reason I say this is this week I have done hundreds of miles on our motorways as a car driver having to do lots of miles between appointments in a limited time and never realised what a pane in the ■■■ slow lorries overtaking in lane 2 are to the vast numbers of car drivers. Generally most car drivers drive at 80mph and whilst we all know its wrong that is the speed traffic in lane 2 and 3 travels at. When a truck trys to overtake another at 56 mph in lane 2 this causes major problems with seperation distances for the majority of motorway users. If it did happen , ie( trucks were banned from overtaking) truck drivers would only have themselves to blame through their own arrogant attitude towards other motorway users. (Tin hat on, hatches battern down.)
so you want truck to say in lane one OK are you willing to pay more for you goods are you willing to put more money in to you car tax for the road repair that would need doing sooner, and you willing to sit in a que of ten mile long at junction when there an accident the left lane is full of trucks( without come up the middle lane and cutting in )i doubt it.
car driver only think of themselves and IMHO do not care about any thing other than themselves.
you need more that a tin hat mate you need truck driver proof vest 
It doesn’t matter if reason is speed limiters or numpty truck driver who’s ego’s are bigger than thier brains. If it keeps happening then more and more road will get overtaking bans on them. It becoming more widespread throughout Europe and when joe public goes on his motoring hoilday across the water and doesn’t get held up by trucks, they put 2 and 2 together and put it down to overtaking bans on trucks.
muckles:
It doesn’t matter if reason is speed limiters or numpty truck driver who’s ego’s are bigger than thier brains. If it keeps happening then more and more road will get overtaking bans on them. It becoming more widespread throughout Europe and when joe public goes on his motoring hoilday across the water and doesn’t get held up by trucks, they put 2 and 2 together and put it down to overtaking bans on trucks.
A14 lorry ban - HA says it’s a success HOWEVER WHEN EVER I ENTER THE “ZONE” OTHER TRUCKS STILL OVER TAKE IN BROAD DAY LIGHT 
M11 - if the rumours are true this is being geared up for a lorry over taking ban between A11 junction and stansted airport
it’s all well putting these bans in place but they never seemed to be enforced, ever
if i see a truck overtaking me i just ease off and let him pass as clearly he can go faster than me, but thats just me, some other just stay on cruise control and refuse to budge.
You seriously thinkn im going to sit behind someone on a dual or m/way if there doing 52-55 and I can do more?? Ive places to go, people to see, deadlines to meet…
On any motorway,particularly at weekends,the numpty car driver in lane 2 doing 60,and will not move back into an empty lane 1,causing faster cars to queue behind waiting for a gap in lane 3 to overtake.THEN,someone in lane 3 overtaking at 70-75,with yet other cars doing 80 plus wanting to pass them.All you can see in lane 3 is a queue of brake lights as they run bumper to bumper.
And all this time I’m in lane 1 with nothing in front of me for half a mile or more.Sound familiar?
Making things easier for car drivers is a good way of getting/keeping votes for any UK Government.
As bestbooties says it’s not the truck doing 56 in lane 2 that creates the problem in lane three, it’s the car driving numpty doing 58 that has come into lane three and hasn’t got the sense to speed up and very very slowly overtakes the truck and then doesn’t use the empty lane one.