Hi every one had enough of uk thinking of oz canada australi

hello been driving 27 years 10 years tanker exp looking to relocate no kids no naging women just sound advice needed and the whay u apply for work permits ect thanks paul

Dont know about oz or new zealand but fairly easy to get yourself over to Canada. I’m heading over there for H & R in Alberta end of July sometime. Depends where you want to be based and what sort of work you want really but plenty guys here will probs help you out with info. Good luck all the best drive

!st things 1st, Oz and Australia are the same place :open_mouth:

2nd, wanting to get out of England, although understandable, is not the best reason to emmigrate :open_mouth:

Can’t speak about Oz or Australia :laughing: But I can tell you about Canada, about the immigration process etc, so what do you want to know :question:

taffytrucker:
Dont know about oz or new zealand but fairly easy to get yourself over to Canada. I’m heading over there for H & R in Alberta end of July sometime. Depends where you want to be based and what sort of work you want really but plenty guys here will probs help you out with info. Good luck all the best drive

hi taffy just want the facts houses prices quality of life how u are treated and where do u start thanks paul

newmercman:
!st things 1st, Oz and Australia are the same place :open_mouth:

2nd, wanting to get out of England, although understandable, is not the best reason to emmigrate :open_mouth:

Can’t speak about Oz or Australia :laughing: But I can tell you about Canada, about the immigration process etc, so what do you want to know :question:

ok then where do u start and the best place to start house prices wages how long ur away for what type of jobs are there exp on tankers 10 years would i be able to get a job on tanks thanks

Right, don’t know a lot about tanks, there’s plenty around though, especially around the oil patch in S.E.Saskatchewan & S.W.Manitoba. Try Pauls Hauling in Winnipeg or Brandon.

You could also try WestCan in Alberta if you fancy that province.

Whoever you try you’ll need them to organise an LMO. This gets you a work permit. After that you apply to the province for residency nomination. All said and done you can be a permanent resident in 2-3yrs.

House prices? Depends how long your piece of string is! Cheaper and bigger than you get in UK though,

newmercman:
Right, don’t know a lot about tanks, there’s plenty around though, especially around the oil patch in S.E.Saskatchewan & S.W.Manitoba. Try Pauls Hauling in Winnipeg or Brandon.

You could also try WestCan in Alberta if you fancy that province.

Whoever you try you’ll need them to organise an LMO. This gets you a work permit. After that you apply to the province for residency nomination. All said and done you can be a permanent resident in 2-3yrs.

House prices? Depends how long your piece of string is! Cheaper and bigger than you get in UK though,

Alberta is rich in resources so maybe a chance there. Its just depends what sorta thing you wanna haul. I have seen some great house prices in Lethbridge AB and looks a nice clean city.

As your man said find a company who can sort everything for you all I’ve had to do is send the paperwork by email back to the company I’m going for. Take a good look round on the internet before taking the plunge

I would not come at all but if you insist when the plane gets to the east coast make sure it keeps going.

thatbrit:
I would not come at all but if you insist when the plane gets to the east coast make sure it keeps going.

Sooooo true

I take it that the last 2 comments don’t consider the East a good option? I am also looking to come over, things look a lot cheaper around NB and the east but don’t know what the work is like or what the pay is like.

I’m only going by experience and talking to others that have left the U.K to move to East Canada. So it MIGHT be different in the other provinces I don’t know.
House prices are lower here for a reason and that is the pay is also lower around here for local work it is around $14-$16 an hour and that is the tops. Food is expensive in fact my wife came in the other night from shopping and told me that it had just cost $188 with out anything special and no beer. By the way there is only the two of us in the house. Don’t half it or divide by 1.6 or what ever the exchange rate is today cost you don’t get payed in UK pounds. On top of that I spend about $60 a week to get to work (petrol) plus bridge tolls. Heating the house costs around $180 a month in oil another $100 in electric. Beer is so damned expensive I can’t remember when I last bought a case of the gassy chemicial garbage thats passed for ale here. Tel/phone/internet bundle another $168 a month basic no films. I’m sitting here typing away because there is no work today so stay at home and don’t get a penny for doing it and this happens quite often (oK i have my own truck) but it works for one company and I talk to the company drivers and they are telling me the same thing. Just so no one thinks this is just me there is another 5 from the UK that work around the same area and they all say the same thing IF they knew then what they know now they would have never never moved here.
Allright it might be better in other parts of the counrty but once you are here and got the house and bought the car and all that good stuff cash because it is hard to get credit to start with it don’t leave any to tramping around trying to find heaven.
Just think long and hard stop and think long and hard again and if you still want to do it research EVERY thing because if you want to go back to the UK just remember you have sold all you have to get here.
One last thing make sure any relationship you are in is really strong because the whole experience will test it to breaking point and beyond, don’t think moving here will help that out because it will not my friends.
Sorry if I have popped a bubble or upset anyone but this is the way I and a few others see it.

^this^

My advice to anyone thinking of making the move is research, research, research :bulb:

A trip over to see how it all works is a must, ideally you should come over alone for at least a few months and try it out before you even think of selling up and moving the family over :open_mouth:

Not many of us did that, but things have changed a bit in the last few years, the exchange rate had a big impact too, a few years ago it was $2 to the pound and vice versa, that left us with a bit more in the bank to help through the bad times, and I’m pretty sure that everyone needed to dip into savings in the first year or two just to pay the bills. Today the rate doesn’t give you as many $s for your hard earned pound notes :wink:

Western Canada is the way to go though, Manitoba has lots of trucking, Saskatchewan is not too bad either, Alberta has plenty of opportunities, but the immigration process is more difficult and it’s an expensive place to live :wink:

Whatever you choose, just be sure that the job you get at first is not going to be the best job ever, there’s a reason companies have to recruit from overseas :open_mouth:

To anyone thinking of moving here the advice given in the last 2 posts is absolutely spot on.
The only other things I would add is don’t be fooled this place looks abit like England and the people speak English but that Is where the similarities end this is another country and they do things differently to us.
The other thing is the trucks, they look the part but believe me they are rubbish Fuller gearboxes and drum brakes it’s like going back in time. So when you are sitting in your nice Scania,Volva,MAN etc think on what you are going to miss.
I don’t want to put anyone off but think long and hard it is along way to get here but it is an awful lot longer to get home.
Good luck

The comment above is so right about the trucks that is one thing that I did’nt mention. Hard rides, cold in the winter hot in the summer, here in the maritimes few have night heaters. They are kept warm/cold by running the motor all night,now that is way back in time for the average european trucker. Believe me it is nothing like Smokey and the Bandit, that big truck stop you see on all the tele programmes just don’t exist on this side of Canada in fact you will spend most of your sleep time parked on a on/off ramp to the highway. Please don’t take all you hear from recruiters as the truth remember they have the title and the job of recruiting and as such well be a little light on the truth. In some cases they only get paid on results and that is when they get backsides in the seats as it has been said many times before on this forum if the company is any good they don’t have to go outside the country to get drivers.

Just to reiterate what the other Maritime posters have said…DO NOT COME HERE. There are a small minority who are totally satisfied with life in the Maritimes as truck drivers but they are very few and far between. Its a nice place to actually live in, its just a shame the work on offer doesn’t pay for the standard of life that we were all lead to believe would await us. The crap nature of the work, and the low rates of milleage pay often mean that you’re on the road 7 days a week just to earn a livable wage due to all the many unpaid down times.
Western Canada would seem to be the way to go, just look at the marked difference of opinion between those who live in the Prairie provinces as opposed to us lot on the east coast.

I dont regret coming here, but I came alone and had no body to support so I had it quite easy in that sense. But its been a long hard road to get this far. I’ve been here over three years now and have had my residence since the end of 2010 but I’m at the stage where I’m totally sick of banging my head against a brick wall when it comes to jobs and I’m on the verge of returning back to the UK. I could relocate out west but I just dont have the heart to start all over again in a new place, knowing no one etc. The UK has many faults but theres a lot to be said for going to work on a monday morning, coming home on a friday afternoon and getting garunteed wages regardless of km’s driven and time spent waiting at shippers/receivers out of your control. Most work for Maritime companies is triangle work and the distances are not long enough to make milleage pay viable when the many delays at each leg of the journey add up to huge amounts of unpaid time wasted.

My advice to anybody. Either move out west where you can get your foot down on longer runs and earn money or just stay in the UK where you get paid for your time. You dont get paid for your time in Canada and as a maritimes based driver you’ll be wasting a hell of a lot of time, frustrated and earning nothing while your bills keep coming in.

Chin up Driver get yourself over this way you’ll not be lonely long, I came back a few months back & believe Me I’m glad I did, its bolloxed at home Fella believe Me, I’ve just had 3 years of central smoke to keep me going as thats the only way to earn a living in The UK, general haulage is f**ked in a big way Chap, head West thats the way forward for a single bloke…

robinhood_1984:
Just to reiterate what the other Maritime posters have said…DO NOT COME HERE. There are a small minority who are totally satisfied with life in the Maritimes as truck drivers but they are very few and far between. Its a nice place to actually live in, its just a shame the work on offer doesn’t pay for the standard of life that we were all lead to believe would await us. The crap nature of the work, and the low rates of milleage pay often mean that you’re on the road 7 days a week just to earn a livable wage due to all the many unpaid down times.
Western Canada would seem to be the way to go, just look at the marked difference of opinion between those who live in the Prairie provinces as opposed to us lot on the east coast.

I dont regret coming here, but I came alone and had no body to support so I had it quite easy in that sense. But its been a long hard road to get this far. I’ve been here over three years now and have had my residence since the end of 2010 but I’m at the stage where I’m totally sick of banging my head against a brick wall when it comes to jobs and I’m on the verge of returning back to the UK. I could relocate out west but I just dont have the heart to start all over again in a new place, knowing no one etc. The UK has many faults but theres a lot to be said for going to work on a monday morning, coming home on a friday afternoon and getting garunteed wages regardless of km’s driven and time spent waiting at shippers/receivers out of your control. Most work for Maritime companies is triangle work and the distances are not long enough to make milleage pay viable when the many delays at each leg of the journey add up to huge amounts of unpaid time wasted.

My advice to anybody. Either move out west where you can get your foot down on longer runs and earn money or just stay in the UK where you get paid for your time. You dont get paid for your time in Canada and as a maritimes based driver you’ll be wasting a hell of a lot of time, frustrated and earning nothing while your bills keep coming in.

The world and his wife know that Maritime trucking pays monkey food,so why go there in the first place?Either stupid or you didn’t do your research properly.Nobody to blame but yourself.

flat to the mat:
The world and his wife know that Maritime trucking pays monkey food,so why go there in the first place?Either stupid or you didn’t do your research properly.Nobody to blame but yourself.

I’m not looking for any one to blame, I’m just confirming for any one who might be interested, that it is indeed crap here for work. Our actual milleage rate isn’t always that much below those of western Canada. Many companies here now pay 38-42 cents per mile but the problem is the lack of miles, or the delays at all three stages of the triangle for example.

I came here because it suited my position at the time, I was (still am) a single lad with no ties and the company I went out to offered me free accomodation at their yard with a bedroom, laundry, showers, kitchen etc so that I could basically just live in my truck and stay at the yard when I was back. That enabled me to live very cheaply and save my money while I found out wether I liked it or not. It served its purpose until I got PR. As a single lad I think that was a pretty sensible thing to do, not stupid.

I dont think anything about my experience here could lead to claims of stupidity or lack of research. I researched things thoroughly enough to come with everything necesary from day one to apply for my PNP/PR bang on the 6 month mark, which is more than most people did and why most still havent even applied three years later. Yes granted, NB isn’t the best location to be a long haul truck driver, but I’ve made the best of a bad situation and dont think stupidity enters in to it.

Besides, western Canada is full of its own horror stories and endless amounts of Brits returning home. Just as many people get bitten by the likes of H&R or Bigfreight as do by arriving in the Maritimes so lets not pretend that the sun always shines in the Prairies.

Bollox,what endless amount of Brits returning home ? A few have returned for health or family reasons which will always happen to a certain degree,others arrived here with heads in the sand after tossing the coin over Canada or Oz,and having little or no knowledge about the place ,failing to plan hence planning to fail,we’ve all met them ! Endless amounts ? I don’t think so.

flat to the mat:
Bollox,what endless amount of Brits returning home ? A few have returned for health or family reasons which will always happen to a certain degree,others arrived here with heads in the sand after tossing the coin over Canada or Oz,and having little or no knowledge about the place ,failing to plan hence planning to fail,we’ve all met them ! Endless amounts ? I don’t think so.

I’d say that at the company I started with, 80% of those that came from Britain went back within 12 months. As for elsewhere in Canada, the sheer amount of people I’ve met back in the UK who went to H&R, Yanke, Bigfreight or Bison etc and are now back in the UK speaks for itself. The point I am making here is that the Maritimes doesn’t hold the distinction all by itself of having crap companies to work for with crap conditions, theres just as much of that out west so lets not pretend otherwise. Theres good companies here and theres bad companies there, neither are unique to one place or the other. I do however think there are much better prospects of getting a better job out west once you have PR and can shop around.

Back to the topic in hand. You’re saying the Maritimes is crap for work, I’m agreeing with you on the most part so how about less of the personal insults. I’m giving my own account of my own experience here. I’m not some rose tinted vision ■■■■ still in the UK who believes whatever the recruiter tells them. I’ve been here for over three years, I know the score and if in the end I decide Canada isn’t the place for me, then so be it, no sympathy required. I’ll be glad of the experience and move on.