What personal insults ? 
Why did 80% of the Brits return ? Lack of foresight maybe,or of the same mindset as the OP ?
flat to the mat:
What personal insults ?
Saying that Iām either stupid or didnt do my research, which both add up to being stupid. Something I dont think I am.
They returned for all the reasons you said. Some just got home sick, some didnāt like the job, some didnāt budget and tried working in Canada and sending money home etc. Most dont seem to do any planning at all before dragging their families across which I find totally mind boggling but there you go. I came across very well prepared with cash to back myself up and all the documentation needed for residence ready just incase my attempt at a bit of an adventure paid off and I wanted to stay on. NB was fine for a single lad living in a truck, seeing the sights and saving money but I would never recommend anyone come here with a family if they want to improve on their standard of life in the UK. Western Canada seems far better for that sort of thing and thats what Iām trying to say here. Iām not looking for sympathy, I came here alone with only myself to worry about, I came soley for adventure and a more free way of driving and I found that and it worked out for me. Iāve now done it for 3 years and want to settle down a bit and I dont think NB offers much for that so Iāll probably be moving on, no big deal.
Everybody moans about Mr Pavlek, Singh and Mr Patel taking their homes & jobs, they complain about immigration and then bugger off overseas to become just like them. 
Iām an immigrant & proud to be one, I wonāt be expecting to build a mosque or arrange a marriage for our child though, I will live by my usual when in Rome motto thats got Me by on the last 3 continents Iāve worked on, off for a bottle of Moosehead & a bison burger now toodle pipā¦
Wheel Nut:
Everybody moans about Mr Pavlek, Singh and Mr Patel taking their homes & jobs, they complain about immigration and then bugger off overseas to become just like them.
The BIG difference for immigrants to Canada being that here we have too many jobs versus population,which helps.Saying that, Mr Singh and Mr Patel canāt drive properly no matter what continent they live on.
robinhood_1984:
flat to the mat:
What personal insults ?Saying that Iām either stupid or didnt do my research, which both add up to being stupid. Something I dont think I am.
They returned for all the reasons you said. Some just got home sick, some didnāt like the job, some didnāt budget and tried working in Canada and sending money home etc. Most dont seem to do any planning at all before dragging their families across which I find totally mind boggling but there you go. I came across very well prepared with cash to back myself up and all the documentation needed for residence ready just incase my attempt at a bit of an adventure paid off and I wanted to stay on. NB was fine for a single lad living in a truck, seeing the sights and saving money but I would never recommend anyone come here with a family if they want to improve on their standard of life in the UK. Western Canada seems far better for that sort of thing and thats what Iām trying to say here. Iām not looking for sympathy, I came here alone with only myself to worry about, I came soley for adventure and a more free way of driving and I found that and it worked out for me. Iāve now done it for 3 years and want to settle down a bit and I dont think NB offers much for that so Iāll probably be moving on, no big deal.
So exactly what planet are you on ? You write āDO NOT COME HEREā,the rates are crap,not enough miles,have to drive 7 days a week to earn a living bleet bleet,but then swear that you did the homework and research before moving there.
Let me quantify this,NB will mean poor revenue,long hours and no future,or Western Canada earning mega bucks,especially as a single person,with openings in the oil patch and the mines,hhmm I think NB wins.Doh Doh Doh !!
There is an element of truth in FTTMās statement, Robinhood, you say you researched, but now moan about the lack of miles/money throughout the Maritimes, did your research not uncover this 
Your situation as a single bloke may have made living in a yard/lorry a viable approach, but that aināt much cop to a family man and who wants to stay living in a yard/lorry 
So, from your last three posts on this thread I conclude, you researched some stuff, but not the important bits, then you made matters worse by staying put and continuing to not earn enough, so an accurate response is indeedā¦DOH
flat to the mat:
So exactly what planet are you on ? You write āDO NOT COME HEREā,the rates are crap,not enough miles,have to drive 7 days a week to earn a living bleet bleet,but then swear that you did the homework and research before moving there.
Let me quantify this,NB will mean poor revenue,long hours and no future,or Western Canada earning mega bucks,especially as a single person,with openings in the oil patch and the mines,hhmm I think NB wins.Doh Doh Doh !!
Change the bloody record.
Iāve explained my reasons for everything several times now and agreed with you on the most part with most of what you are saying. Yet you keep trying to argue with yourself about things which you think Iām saying against you, when really Iām agreeing with you.
Your western Canada superiority complex is really getting boring now. Yes Iām sure its better than NB but its hardly El Dorado. And while weāre at it, I dont know who you think you are to be telling me that Iām stupid or that I didnāt research my move to Canada. My reasons for coming here may or may not be entirely different to your own. Given that I was on the road and earnin 9 days from landing at the airport, obtained residence within 18 months and saved a large amount of money and still have no ties meaning that I can do whatever the hell I want right now, I fail to see how I am or indeed were a stupid, unpreared fool. So I didnt do that starting at H and bloody R in the magnificent Alberta, big deal.
The bottom line is, regardless of how I got where I am, Iām here. I have exactly the same rights and operunities to live and work anywhere in Canada that I want, just like you have, so lets not pretend that youāre better than me or anyone else living in the Maritimes. Please do me a favour and refrain from corresponding with me if you canāt drop the bad attitude and my ā ā ā ā ā is bigger than yours syndrome. Like I say, its getting boring and its getting in the way of giving people advice about the good and bad points about Canada. No wonder prospective ex-pats are put off from asking questions when we have a forum ā ā ā ā like yourself shooting people down if they stray from your very narrow definition of whats right and correct. You dont make the rules, you just live by them like the rest of us do.
Now now chaps, both of you take one of these 
newmercman:
There is an element of truth in FTTMās statement, Robinhood, you say you researched, but now moan about the lack of miles/money throughout the Maritimes, did your research not uncover this
Not entirely no. Their promises of millieage were not incorrect, they just failed to mention the amounts of waiting time which meant to get that milleage you had to re-write log books and often work 7 days a week to complete the trip. I suspected this may be the case but as I was only going to Canada for an adventure and not to seek a better life for my wife and kids I thought it was a risk worth taking to at least get over here and take things from there.
newmercman:
Your situation as a single bloke may have made living in a yard/lorry a viable approach, but that aināt much cop to a family man and who wants to stay living in a yard/lorry
I agree, and have stated that several dozen times at every opertunity. I have never once suggested or promoted any one coming to NB with a family. If thats peoples reasons for coming Iāve always pointed them in the direction of AB, MB etc. FTTMās constant arguing that NB is no good for a family to move to is not required, heās preaching to the bloody choir!
newmercman:
So, from your last three posts on this thread I conclude, you researched some stuff, but not the important bits, then you made matters worse by staying put and continuing to not earn enough, so an accurate response is indeedā¦DOH
I researched enough for what was needed for me. Iām single and have money in the bank in the UK to back me up if I should need it. I was living in the truck and treating it as little more than a working holiday. I did not need to earn $1200 per week and live an Albertan family life kinda lifestyle. I have never tried to paint NB in a false light to potential immigrants, Iāve always being very honest about my own experiences here and those of the people around me in the same circumstances as myself or those here with families. Now that Iām getting a bit tired of NB and doing triangle work Iāll make my own decision about wether to leave or not, but again it will be based on what I need and want, not to comform to a set of requirements needed to live a family life in Winnipeg of Lethbridge.
So no, the adequate response to me is certainly not āDOHā.
Everyone comes here with their own expectations and requirements. When I came out NB suited me just fine. Just because it isnāt ideal for a family to move to, is not a reason to call me āstupidā as the OP did. I have never made any sort of claim that this is a good place to come for everyone, or indeed any one, Iāve agreed with pretty much everything he has said, yet he still insists that Iām stupid for making a success out of what I have so far in my own circumstances.
I said the response to your last three posts was DOH!, I know your situation is different from previous posts and stuff, but things get taken out of context and from those three posts, thatās how it looked
As Fly Sheet said, maybe an idea to try heading west before you go back to the UK, you may find the adventure youāre looking for, I know I did 
newmercman:
As Fly Sheet said, maybe an idea to try heading west before you go back to the UK, you may find the adventure youāre looking for, I know I did
Thats true enough alright. Iām definetely thinking about it.
robinhood_1984:
newmercman:
As Fly Sheet said, maybe an idea to try heading west before you go back to the UK, you may find the adventure youāre looking for, I know I didThats true enough alright. Iām definetely thinking about it.
Plenty of decent jobs out here, any one of us will steer you in the right direction if you do decide to come here
newmercman:
Plenty of decent jobs out here, any one of us will steer you in the right direction if you do decide to come here
I came very close a few years back. Me and two Irish drivers were weekended in Portage la Prairie and on the monday morning all drove in to what was then Lark Transport and had a impromptu interview with the view of jumping ship from NB the minute our PR came through. However our PR process dragged on and we ended up meeting womenā¦the usual thing and that was the end of that.
robinhood_1984:
newmercman:
As Fly Sheet said, maybe an idea to try heading west before you go back to the UK, you may find the adventure youāre looking for, I know I didThats true enough alright. Iām definetely thinking about it.
Go for it have a TNUK BBQ then lol
I did already Taffytrucker, most of the MB gang attended, I even have video evidence of nianiamh and on the road again dancing
newmercman:
I did already Taffytrucker, most of the MB gang attended, I even have video evidence of nianiamh and on the road again dancing
I always miss the BBQās ill miss the H&R one by a couple of weeks 
The world and his wife know that Maritime trucking pays monkey food,so why go there in the first place?Either stupid or you didnāt do your research properly.Nobody to blame but yourself.
This comment I find very offensive and Iām sure there are others out there that feel the same way.
To say that the folks who moved to the East coast did not do any research and deserve what we get is so wrong, in my case and in the cases of others that I have spoken to.
Firstly in my case I went out to Winnipeg and yes I was offered a job doing the miles BUT I felt that we my wife and I could not live in a place that has no character and is as flat as a mirror,in fact if a moose ā ā ā ā ā ā 500 mile away given a short time you could smell it as theres nothing to stop it coming at you. Not even a hill. We then spent a small fortune travelling back and forth to Nova Scotia over a 5 year period sometimes twice a year to get a feel for the place and see what it was like at different times of the year. This was also done with the visits to emigration shows held at Sandown racecourse. Here we were told by an official from the C.H.C that Canada was the place to be better work relations/opportunities, more free time, more money in your pocket to spend on what you want, better and safer lifestyle.
Here I have to state that when we moved here 10 years ago I had NO wish or want to drive a truck again having spent 20 odd years doing that in the UK.
So going on what we were told by the people that were supposed to be telling the truth we came thinking that getting jobs would be fairly easy and and I could use some of my other skills instead of driving. 3 months later I managed to get a job driving a panel van earning min wages and being told be greatfull for what you got, my wife on the other hand having held down a good postion in the MOD sent out over 80 applications and received not one reply. She managed to get a part time job through some one we knew close to a year after we landed. I ended up doing just what I didnāt want to driving again for a wage wouldnāt class it as a living, yes I know that I could earn a bit more tramping across North America BUT I donāt live for trucks I donāt want to live in one, the whole system here is corrupt work like a dog and we will pay you a pittance but we will give a big shiney motor so you will look like you are doing well while you spend every day of your miserable life thinking you are better off here than you would be in the UK.
The biggest thing I notice here is that drivers have no time for each other at least when I was driving in UK and Europe we had a bit of a social life as well as doing the job and working hard it was a bit of fun too.
The bottom line is a lot of untruths are told to get people to come to Canada and no amount of research that you do will uncover all the down side because in most cases you are blinkered and only see what you want.
So if any one posts what they have found out good and bad it should be taken as just more research and not open a door for some one to shout their mouth off just because THEY have found their perfect life, some peoples expectations are a lot lower than others.
I think things in The Maritimes are far different to the Western Provinces, yes you will need to put the work in to earn the big bucks, but not to the extremes that you suggest.
I have an average, for these parts, job on long haul, I can expect to do 12,000miles a month and for that I get a reasonable wage. I also get a lot of home time, usually at least two days between trips, often more.
Trips can be to the Mid West and I would usually do three in a two week period, or to one of the coasts and they are a week long, sometimes they may run into a two week trip, not because of waiting around for loads though, itās usually because of a triangle run, but then the miles are more, so it balances out.
I work harder here than I would in The UK, but I believe the rest of life here makes up for that. Sure The Maritimes are pretty, but the work is crap, so Iāll just have to keep on living the flatland dream and smelling Moose ā ā ā ā ā
newmercman:
I think things in The Maritimes are far different to the Western Provinces, yes you will need to put the work in to earn the big bucks, but not to the extremes that you suggest.I have an average, for these parts, job on long haul, I can expect to do 12,000miles a month and for that I get a reasonable wage. I also get a lot of home time, usually at least two days between trips, often more.
Trips can be to the Mid West and I would usually do three in a two week period, or to one of the coasts and they are a week long, sometimes they may run into a two week trip, not because of waiting around for loads though, itās usually because of a triangle run, but then the miles are more, so it balances out.
I work harder here than I would in The UK, but I believe the rest of life here makes up for that. Sure The Maritimes are pretty, but the work is crap, so Iāll just have to keep on living the flatland dream and smelling Moose ā ā ā ā ā
So you think two days off after a two week trip and driving 12,000 miles a month for a āreasonable wageā is living the dream do you. Obviously you are married to a truck and like to spend your life alone in that truck. Unlike me and many men like me, who are married to woman and like to spend quality time with our familyās. I worked out west for three years, hauling throughout the western provinces and Northwest Territories for WestCan in Calgary. Doing a regular run over the Rockies to BC with Goliath. Hauling Oil and Fuel up to northern Alberta with Economy Carriers and drove a water truck to service rigs in the oil patch, and hated every minute of it, so donāt tell me that life is great out West. I never had any life, it was all work, work, work and my days off were always in the week when the kids were at school and my wife was at work. I agree the work in the Maritimes is crap, but at least I am back home every night and sleep in my bed with my wife, not alone in a truck. I have lived in Canada for 9 years now, and I am glad you have found a life out here that you enjoy, good luck to you as you seem to have found something that a lot of us who came over here cannot find.