F-reds:
I would have [zb] my pants. That’s for sure, but really there are 3 pricks on show in the clip.White Scania man for not knocking a km off the limiter.
Dashcam man for trying a 0.5km faster overtake on a two lane stretch.
And the world class award goes to the red car driver who clearly was feeling a bit suicidal that day.
…Wins the prize for “three in a row” correct statements. 
Bluey Circles:
I see absolutely nothing wrong with either of the lorry drivers, both seem very professional to me.
Lets not shower the guy doing the overtake in glory. In the 40 seconds leading up to the event, he didn’t even pass the length of the unit. From that, we are looking at an overtake of the whole rig taking well over a mile or so to complete. Completely and utterly pointless manoeuvre that will barely have made a shred of difference to the fella’s journey time.
If that’s a reasonable amount of time to spend clogging up a lane carrying out an overtake the some guys on here really do need a reality check.
rob22888:
Bluey Circles:
I see absolutely nothing wrong with either of the lorry drivers, both seem very professional to me.Lets not shower the guy doing the overtake in glory. In the 40 seconds leading up to the event, he didn’t even pass the length of the unit. From that, we are looking at an overtake of the whole rig taking well over a mile or so to complete. Completely and utterly pointless manoeuvre that will barely have made a shred of difference to the fella’s journey time.
If that’s a reasonable amount of time to spend clogging up a lane carrying out an overtake the some guys on here really do need a reality check.
A one mile overtake will be complete in just over a minute. It’s not unreasonable to expect people to wait a minute for the road to clear.
In the cam trucks comments under his video, he says the red carpet wasn’t visible when he started the manoeuvre. The only criticism of either lorry driver is: white truck should have slowed to make the overtake quicker, but he doesn’t have to.
So if you have been given some ■■■■■■■■ awful piece of crap that (for whatever reason) is limited to 54.5mph Do you have to slow down to 48 every time another truck starts to overtake? ■■■■■■■■ with that for a game of soldiers, I’m going to sit on my limiter whatever it is set at. And from the other point of view; if your sat on yours at 56 and you come across some poor sod stuck at 54 do you just follow indefinitely at 54 all day? I’m not, I’m passing. If some beamer has to slow from 95 down to just below his speed limit for half a mile then so be it, couldn’t care less.
Different story if someone speeds up and leaves another truck stuck out there at the same speed, but as long as the overtaking truck is making progress, then alls fair in my book
Bluey Circles:
So if you have been given some ■■■■■■■■ awful piece of crap that (for whatever reason) is limited to 54.5mph Do you have to slow down to 48 every time another truck starts to overtake? ■■■■■■■■ with that for a game of soldiers, I’m going to sit on my limiter whatever it is set at. And from the other point of view; if your sat on yours at 56 and you come across some poor sod stuck at 54 do you just follow indefinitely at 54 all day? I’m not, I’m passing. If some beamer has to slow from 95 down to just below his speed limit for half a mile then so be it, couldn’t care less.
Different story if someone speeds up and leaves another truck stuck out there at the same speed, but as long as the overtaking truck is making progress, then alls fair in my book
+1
Some comments on here seem to be saying the red car was almost justified in charging up the hard shoulder and then slamming on his brakes in front of a lorry simply because he had the audacity to want to overtake a slower moving vehicle.
Part of being a driver is dealing with other road users and red car prick seems to think he should not be held up and has a right to vent his fury.
For the avoidance of doubt, there is ■■■■ all wrong with not dropping back to allow another lorry to overtake, just as there is nothnig wrong with overtaking even if you are only 1km/hr faster. There is no legal obligation if you dont want to, therefor NOTHING these two lorry drivers does in any way justifies behaving like the arsewipe in the red car does.
Jesus wept. All you read about on this site is “drivers need to stick together” and yet here we have other lorry drivers actually looking for faults in the hgv drivers and aportioning most of the blame to them.
Thank god I never had to work with some of you lot when I was working on the doors and having to rely on you to be watching my back
Bluey Circles:
So if you have been given some ■■■■■■■■ awful piece of crap that (for whatever reason) is limited to 54.5mph Do you have to slow down to 48 every time another truck starts to overtake? ■■■■■■■■ with that for a game of soldiers, I’m going to sit on my limiter whatever it is set at. And from the other point of view; if your sat on yours at 56 and you come across some poor sod stuck at 54 do you just follow indefinitely at 54 all day? I’m not, I’m passing. If some beamer has to slow from 95 down to just below his speed limit for half a mile then so be it, couldn’t care less.
Different story if someone speeds up and leaves another truck stuck out there at the same speed, but as long as the overtaking truck is making progress, then alls fair in my book
The issue of over long drawn out overtakes is mostly about the ridiculous speed regime either in the case of limiters on trucks or the strictly enforced limit for all vehicles.In which case it’s just as likely that the muppet driving the car in this case will do something similar in the case of even if it’s a car running at 70 mph overtaking another car running at 65 mph.On the basis of the overtaking driver rightly being paranoid about being caught in a typical mobile camera trap.
On that note the last of the better days when the speed regime allowed decent speed differentials between the lanes. 
youtube.com/watch?v=nMCFeoR9oSg
1.27 - 1.50
Berty:
Similar situation happened to me but it was on a roundabout… I was fully laden and roundabout was clear when I pulled away but this car appeared from nowhere must of been absolutely belting it and took to his horn then continued to follow me further up the road and anchored then on in front of me… neverless a few unsavoury words was exchanged and we was on our way I could do without out as I’m only trying to earn a living and ppl like that have no idea what it’s like to drive a truck let alone fully laden…
In that situation, you need a mate following, who has a set of very loud air horns. Picture this, I pull out onto a roundabout fully laden, Nigel Mansel(this was some years ago) comes hurtling round the island as if its Mirabeau at the Monaco GP, then leans on his hooter, at this point my mate, who as usual was running close behind lets loose with his 2 tone air horns, apparently the Nigel Mansel’s car had a head shaped dent in the roof
The-Snowman:
Bluey Circles:
So if you have been given some ■■■■■■■■ awful piece of crap that (for whatever reason) is limited to 54.5mph Do you have to slow down to 48 every time another truck starts to overtake? ■■■■■■■■ with that for a game of soldiers, I’m going to sit on my limiter whatever it is set at. And from the other point of view; if your sat on yours at 56 and you come across some poor sod stuck at 54 do you just follow indefinitely at 54 all day? I’m not, I’m passing. If some beamer has to slow from 95 down to just below his speed limit for half a mile then so be it, couldn’t care less.
Different story if someone speeds up and leaves another truck stuck out there at the same speed, but as long as the overtaking truck is making progress, then alls fair in my book+1
Some comments on here seem to be saying the red car was almost justified in charging up the hard shoulder and then slamming on his brakes in front of a lorry simply because he had the audacity to want to overtake a slower moving vehicle.
Part of being a driver is dealing with other road users and red car prick seems to think he should not be held up and has a right to vent his fury.
For the avoidance of doubt, there is [zb] all wrong with not dropping back to allow another lorry to overtake, just as there is nothnig wrong with overtaking even if you are only 1km/hr faster. There is no legal obligation if you dont want to, therefor NOTHING these two lorry drivers does in any way justifies behaving like the arsewipe in the red car does.
Jesus wept. All you read about on this site is “drivers need to stick together” and yet here we have other lorry drivers actually looking for faults in the hgv drivers and aportioning most of the blame to them.
Thank god I never had to work with some of you lot when I was working on the doors and having to rely on you to be watching my back
I agree with you that neither of the truck drivers are at fault, and that, even if the car driver cant be prosecuted for this act of utter stupidity, and law breaking, the Police should still get round to the registered keepers address, find who was driving and mark their card.
Bluey Circles, I don’t think anyone is suggesting dropping back to 48 mph, as you lay out in your scenario, but if your doing 54,5 mph a touch over 87kph, then it don’t take much to knock it back to 85 kph a touch over 53 mph, to let the passing truck clear you quicker. If you were flat stick 56mph approached 54.5 mph truck, started to overtake, and found that you were actually clearing the guy quicker, because he’d done as said, you’d be even a little bit chuffed. The trouble is, what normally happens is that you find the 54.5 mph truck suddenly gains them extra 2 K’s not looses them. I drive around at 87 kph(and do as I suggested above) yet I find that as I gain on a truck doing maybe 85kph, I go for the overtake and increase to 89 kph max set speed (scania) yet all of a sudden, 85 kph man is now doing 90 kph, cannot get my head around this mentality.
If you go to the footage on you tube now there is a comment by South Yorkshire police about idiot car driver…perhaps it will be going a lot further , and A magistrate hands out points !
I simply do not understand this whole ideology of having to have your foot to the floor all day and not budging an inch of the limiter or whatever cruise speed you opt for, it’s just dumb. Knocking your speed down by 1kph every now and again to aid someone past you or just stick behind and avoid these long drawn out overtakes that ■■■■ up traffic flow for everybody, has such a negliable impact on your journey time it’s just plain common sense. If you can’t afford to lose at most a handful of minutes in a day, then my only suggestion would be to get a better job.
Nobodies expecting anyone to sit behind others doing 2+kph slower as you can get by them swiftly, it’s the 0.5kph brigade like in the video I’m on about.
And no, I’m not excusing the car driver.
Lets put some figures on the +2 kmh overtake.
assume the manoeuvrer can be completed in 5 vehicle lengths (100m)
so overall time for overtake = 3 minutes
and at 56mph this represents a distance of 4.5km (2.81 miles)
the journey time delay experiencing by a car slowing from 70 to 56mph for 2.8 miles = 36 seconds
whilst the car slows and tailgates the truck for the 2.8 mile its fuel consumption will probably increase from 40mpg to 60mpg giving a saving of 10.7pence in fuel.
This 10.7p compensation for a delay of 36 seconds is a pro-rata equivalent to £10.70 per hour.
So to sum up the driver of the car (whilst sitting in the lap of luxury listing to their fine music) is getting more in compensation than the bloke driving the truck is earning! I have no sympathy.
SuperMultiBlue:
These brake-checkers
Had one slow me to 30 mph up a hill. Traffic speeding past on both sides. I’m not violent but I’d have ran the tyres over his head if I caught him.
Bluey Circles:
Lets put some figures on the +2 kmh overtake.
assume the manoeuvrer can be completed in 5 vehicle lengths (100m)
so overall time for overtake = 3 minutes
and at 56mph this represents a distance of 4.5km (2.81 miles)
the journey time delay experiencing by a car slowing from 70 to 56mph for 2.8 miles = 36 secondswhilst the car slows and tailgates the truck for the 2.8 mile its fuel consumption will probably increase from 40mpg to 60mpg giving a saving of 10.7pence in fuel.
This 10.7p compensation for a delay of 36 seconds is a pro-rata equivalent to £10.70 per hour.
So to sum up the driver of the car (whilst sitting in the lap of luxury listing to their fine music) is getting more in compensation than the bloke driving the truck is earning! I have no sympathy.
To be fair there’s going to be plenty more trucks overtaking over the course of the car’s journey.Which effectively often makes lane 2 a 56 mph max liability.IE 90 kmh max isn’t as much of a liability on empty French autoroutes but it’s no good when traffic levels are higher.Which is why Germany ( rightly ) bans trucks from overtaking in many cases on its autobahns.Which leaves the question in our case of joining the rest of the English speaking world again regarding truck speed limits and just telling the EU to do one.
As for hyper mile fuel saving if that’s the object why bother with all the expense of multi overtaking lane motorways or dual carriageways.As it stands, under the current speed regime,motorways are just a pointless liabilty in that regard with more potential for massive unavoidable hold ups and aggro like the example shown than any real advantages in time saving. 
rob22888:
I simply do not understand this whole ideology of having to have your foot to the floor all day and not budging an inch of the limiter or whatever cruise speed you opt for, it’s just dumb. Knocking your speed down by 1kph every now and again to aid someone past you or just stick behind and avoid these long drawn out overtakes that [zb] up traffic flow for everybody, has such a negliable impact on your journey time it’s just plain common sense. If you can’t afford to lose at most a handful of minutes in a day, then my only suggestion would be to get a better job.Nobodies expecting anyone to sit behind others doing 2+kph slower as you can get by them swiftly, it’s the 0.5kph brigade like in the video I’m on about.
And no, I’m not excusing the car driver.
If you are in such a hurry you cant drop 1kph for half a minute to help an overtaking truck, what do you do at a red traffic light or a crossing with pedestrians on it, those are going to delay you far more.
Buckstones:
If you are in such a hurry you cant drop 1kph for half a minute to help an overtaking truck, what do you do at a red traffic light or a crossing with pedestrians on it, those are going to delay you far more.
As BC rightly says that argument doesn’t work in the real world of UK traffic levels.Because firstly it would need to be a bigger drop than just 1 kmh to make any real difference to the low speed differential problem.It would actually realistically take a drop of around 10 mph to have any real noticeable effect in that regard.Secondly the slower speed then just creates an even worse situation of backing up more following traffic in lane 1 thereby causing even more hold ups in lane 2 when it too has to overtake when/where it wouldn’t have needed to if the vehicle in lane 1 had held its speed.
The problem in this case being the ridiculous slow speed limiter setting which doesn’t allow for a decent speed differential between lanes 1 and 2 with similar regarding the 70 mph limit in lane 3 or 4.The result being a speed regime enforced/caused lane hogging situation.
On that note check out the video example I’ve posted previously of the game changing effect of the higher pre limiter regime regards speed differentials between the lanes and resulting better overtaking times.
Having watched that video…I can confidently say that if the moron in the red car had done that in front of me,I would have smashed him right up the arse !! That’s what he was trying to cause to happen,so I would have obliged him.
Do these ■■■■■ not realise what a big truck can do to a car ■■ I was watching some vids on you tube the other day and in one (in china I think),there were 2 cement mixers ,with a 5 series BMW between them,with a bit of a gap…the traffic slowed quickly and so did mixer 1…his mate either wasn’t quite paying attention or his brakes weren’t that good and he hit the BMW and didn’t stop until the front of his truck hit the back of his mates truck !!..The BMW just disappeared !..Shocking…but a graphic demonstration of what a truck can do to a ‘tin box’ car…
Also,this ‘half a mile an hour’ passing is the fault of the bloody speed limiters !.. Sodding Europe telling us what to do ,AGAIN ! Plus you get other HGV drivers that see you coming and then put their foot down…they should be shot for doing that !..Supposed to be professionals…pah ! Todays trucks are more capable than ever,but are severely (and unnecessarily) hobbled by nonsense like speed limiters ! Most of us KNOW how to drive without behaving like racing drivers ! Grrr…
The-Snowman:
+1
Some comments on here seem to be saying the red car was almost justified in charging up the hard shoulder and then slamming on his brakes in front of a lorry simply because he had the audacity to want to overtake a slower moving vehicle.
Part of being a driver is dealing with other road users and red car prick seems to think he should not be held up and has a right to vent his fury.
For the avoidance of doubt, there is [zb] all wrong with not dropping back to allow another lorry to overtake, just as there is nothnig wrong with overtaking even if you are only 1km/hr faster. There is no legal obligation if you dont want to, therefor NOTHING these two lorry drivers does in any way justifies behaving like the arsewipe in the red car does.
Jesus wept. All you read about on this site is “drivers need to stick together” and yet here we have other lorry drivers actually looking for faults in the hgv drivers and aportioning most of the blame to them.
Thank god I never had to work with some of you lot when I was working on the doors and having to rely on you to be watching my back
This … pretty much. Toyota driver needs a bloody good pasting for putting peoples lives in danger. Imbecile.
If that truck had ploughed straight into the back of the car there, that footage would see the driver cleared, and the car driver dead.
Are car driving people really in such of a hurry these days that they’d happily risk death just to have a kiddie rant vs a 44t killing machine? 
That car driver must have been stuck behind the elephant racers, got all worked up, shot up the off slip, tore down the on-slip, just to cut across the foreign driver to then “brake test” the camera driver here…
Notice too that johnny foreigner must have had his feet up on the dash, as he didn’t even tap his brakes to cancel his cruise as that car cut across the front of him… Probably watching a DVD…
Bluey Circles:
So if you have been given some ■■■■■■■■ awful piece of crap that (for whatever reason) is limited to 54.5mph Do you have to slow down to 48 every time another truck starts to overtake? ■■■■■■■■ with that for a game of soldiers, I’m going to sit on my limiter whatever it is set at. And from the other point of view; if your sat on yours at 56 and you come across some poor sod stuck at 54 do you just follow indefinitely at 54 all day? I’m not, I’m passing. If some beamer has to slow from 95 down to just below his speed limit for half a mile then so be it, couldn’t care less.
Different story if someone speeds up and leaves another truck stuck out there at the same speed, but as long as the overtaking truck is making progress, then alls fair in my book
well said bluey mate totaley agree with that some of drivers these days expeckt you to compencent for there pith poor jugement i sit on my limiter for my benifit not thers 
I was expecting a bike to complete the sandwich. Pretty terrible stuff. Praise be to the dashcam which records this sort of thing so it can be prevented from happening again. As for
tommy t:
sadly they can’t take away someone’s right to drive for the rest of their life
q.v. bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-35860607
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