Dave the Renegade:
Trev_H:
Dave the Renegade:
Genuine 8LXB.Genuine 240 BADGE
the daylight under the wheelarch says 180
No Trev it was a 240 8LXB. The original M A Evans driver of this motor owns the photo.
Cheers Dave.
You tell him Dave!!!
David 
Trev_H:
Dave the Renegade:
Genuine 8LXB.Genuine 240 BADGE
A zoomed-in view of the daylight in question:
Do any of the shapes in that triangle of light resemble the features of the back end of an 8LXB? More likely the wall of the building behind, as far as I can see. There is a suzie coil on the right of the triangle, indicating that the gantry with the air connections on is approximately in line with the dark, vertically-bounded area to the left. That would make the rear of the engine about flush with the back of a day cab.
5thwheel:
Dave the Renegade:
Trev_H:
Dave the Renegade:
Genuine 8LXB.Genuine 240 BADGE
No Trev it was a 240 8LXB. The original M A Evans driver of this motor owns the photo.
Cheers Dave.You tell him Dave!!!
David
Maybe they changed the boat anchor for a Rolls and forgot to remove the badge. 
[zb]
anorak:Trev_H:
Dave the Renegade:
Genuine 8LXB.Genuine 240 BADGE
A zoomed-in view of the daylight in question:
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Do any of the shapes in that triangle of light resemble the features of the back end of an 8LXB? More likely the wall of the building behind, as far as I can see. There is a suzie coil on the right of the triangle, indicating that the gantry with the air connections on is approximately in line with the dark, vertically-bounded area to the left. That would make the rear of the engine about flush with the back of a day cab.
No wall behind that part of the unit !!!
Cheers Dave.
[zb]
anorak:
Regarding the “Rolls Eagle Diesel- rubbish or not?” debate, some posters have said that the later, 1980s versions were good enough to be considered a viable ■■■■■■■ altenative. IIRC, the RR 265L was the first “high torque rise”-type engine to be offered in the UK, in 1976 or '77, preceding the ■■■■■■■ E290 by a year or so. Am I right? Was that the turning point for the Eagle- was the 265L/290L the version that made Rolls Royce the equal of its competitors, or am I talking out of my tailpipe?
Yes, I do believe you are “anorak” splutter ,splutter,cough ,cough 
Bewick
Dave the Renegade:
[zb]
anorak:Trev_H:
Dave the Renegade:
Genuine 8LXB.Genuine 240 BADGE
A zoomed-in view of the daylight in question:
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Do any of the shapes in that triangle of light resemble the features of the back end of an 8LXB? More likely the wall of the building behind, as far as I can see. There is a suzie coil on the right of the triangle, indicating that the gantry with the air connections on is approximately in line with the dark, vertically-bounded area to the left. That would make the rear of the engine about flush with the back of a day cab.No wall behind that part of the unit !!!
Cheers Dave.
It does look suspiciously like whatever it is that makes up the white coloured end of the building in the background though no one is saying it’s a brick wall.Unless someone decided to paint the Gardner engine white to blend in with the building that is.
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Carryfast:
Dave the Renegade:
[zb]
anorak:Trev_H:
Dave the Renegade:
Genuine 8LXB.Genuine 240 BADGE
A zoomed-in view of the daylight in question:
0
Do any of the shapes in that triangle of light resemble the features of the back end of an 8LXB? More likely the wall of the building behind, as far as I can see. There is a suzie coil on the right of the triangle, indicating that the gantry with the air connections on is approximately in line with the dark, vertically-bounded area to the left. That would make the rear of the engine about flush with the back of a day cab.No wall behind that part of the unit !!!
Cheers Dave.It does look suspiciously like whatever it is that makes up the white coloured end of the building in the background though no one is saying it’s a brick wall.Unless someone decided to paint the Gardner engine white to blend in with the building that is.
Look between the top of the tyre and the white building seen below the wing Geoff.
Cheers Dave.
Photo sent to me by Ray (Leggy) Leadbeater who used to drive her.
Hi Guys,
just catching up after a 2 week holiday !
Bewick , why did you remove the percy 240 badge from your big j TEC 431 R ?
bEEN GOOD FOR A FORTNIGHT SO OOOOPPS
E W
EW car truck & bus:
Hi Guys,just catching up after a 2 week holiday !
Bewick , why did you remove the percy 240 badge from your big j TEC 431 R ?
bEEN GOOD FOR A FORTNIGHT SO OOOOPPS
E W
Some tealeaf nicked it ,didn’t they, so we never did replace it,but it did have an 8LXB engine honest cross my heart and hope to die 
,it’s just that I haven’t got a side view of the unit,but believe me it did have the 8LXB engine. 
Bewick.
Wonderful revelation Dennis the best testimony to the said argument to date…
COULD THIS BE CONSIDERED CONCLUSIVE I WONDER IN THE COURT OF TRUCK NET . 
Great shots as ever.
E W
A smart looking Smith of Maddiston Big J 6x4, would she have been a double drive? If so what size engine did they put in them?
adr:
A smart looking Smith of Maddiston Big J 6x4, would she have been a double drive? If so what size engine did they put in them?
■■■■■■■ 14 litre, with a Highway "Superlightweight " tandem behind…am I right Gentlemen?
Cheerio for now.
Saviem:
adr:
A smart looking Smith of Maddiston Big J 6x4, would she have been a double drive? If so what size engine did they put in them?■■■■■■■ 14 litre, with a Highway "Superlightweight " tandem behind…am I right Gentlemen?
Cheerio for now.
On a scale of one to ten I’ll give you eleven “Saviem” 
I believe those lightweight Highway trailers gave a lot of trouble with cracking chassis but SOM were certainly big users,and Robsons were similarly big users of Northern trailers, now the two gents that owned Northern,the Gennis brothers were a real pair of East end barrow boys,tried their damnest to get me to buy a couple of their offerings at the Glasgow motor show one year,they got my Transport manager “blind” drunk during the failed proccess (I just kept killing my G&T’s with copious ammounts of Shwwwwepes,glug,glug cheerio.Cheers Bewick.
I had a second hand Northern trailer many years ago. It weighed almost as much as the tractor unit despite being only thirty-two feet long. The thing had a double thickness load bed, the timbers on the lower layer laid diagonally with the upper layer laid across the width of the trailer. Both layers were about an inch thick so it was pretty strong but it couldn’t carry much of a payload.
Northern trailers, now the two gents that owned Northern,the Gennis brothers were a real pair of East end barrow boys,tried their damnest to get me to buy a couple of their offerings at the Glasgow motor show one year,they got my Transport manager “blind” drunk during the failed proccess (I just kept killing my G&T’s with copious ammounts of Shwwwwepes,glug,glug cheerio.Cheers Bewick.
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Evening all, Dennis, thanks for the compliment, but I had a fair bit to do with Smith`s many moons ago. And they loved those Super lightweights, I cannot remember the exact tare, but with that light tandem suspension they were very light indeed. The Highway trailer I thought was their best product was the Coil Carrier. They had some considerable success down in South Wales, their representative there was Lew Lewis, known as the “coil carrier king”. Stan Ross, Ross Garages, on Penarth Rd Cardiff was their main agent, and they moved a lot of them!
But the Northern set up…what can one say? Harry Gennis must have single handed kept the Malt Industry alive! Their stand at Kelvin Hall,…could you ever find a sober person on it? I remember, (very vaguely), at a 70s Kelvin Hall show, going to a dinner, very formal, black tie do, with Ian Sheriff, the long departed ex Royal Marine, and then Editor of Commercial Motor, and amongst the table party was Harry Gennis. It was probably one of the most entertaining, least sober, and funny evenings that I have endured! The banter, laughter, and sheer good fun, that such characters can create…makes you realise just how business has changed…for the better, I doubt it!
ROF, those double floors, very common in the Black Country, on rigids as well as on trailers, b…y heavy, but on steel stillages, coupled to lazy fork lift truck drivers, they were worth their weight, every time!
What ever happened to Northern Trailers?
Happy memories, Cheerio for now.
But the Northern set up…what can one say? Harry Gennis must have single handed kept the Malt Industry alive! Their stand at Kelvin Hall,…could you ever find a sober person on it? I remember, (very vaguely), at a 70s Kelvin Hall show, going to a dinner, very formal, black tie do, with Ian Sheriff, the long departed ex Royal Marine, and then Editor of Commercial Motor, and amongst the table party was Harry Gennis. It was probably one of the most entertaining, least sober, and funny evenings that I have endured! The banter, laughter, and sheer good fun, that such characters can create…makes you realise just how business has changed…for the better, I doubt it!
Happy memories, Cheerio for now.
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Yes Saviem, it’s a very bland scene these days and all the “characters” seem to have disappeared, more’s the pity.