Flat tyre on a lifting axle?

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limeyphil:

switchlogic:

limeyphil:
Far too many steering wheel attendants.
There are several ride height options on a scania.
Too many just get in and drive. all these buttons and switches are there to be used, not there to self distruct the lorry.

And Scania just designed it to raise the suspension when the middle axle is up for fun then did they? I’d hate to see the state of the tyres after you’ve been in it. Put it down to normal ride height and the middle axle is barely off the ground.

I don’t adjust it manually, there are pre programmed settings.
There is an easy way though. Lift the midlift, Then drop the drive axle suspension, Then press the reset button, hey presto normal ride height. all done with the handbrake off.

Didn’t read the post properly then I assume…

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Icee:
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It’s a poor excuse where ever you run in the world. Scania also got that beautiful fast ride height button that can be used at any speed. Get it correct programed and you can win almost 10cm from original ride height. Perfect approaching a lower bridge or tunnel, click the button and keep on driving as normal. When the object is passed click it back to normal ride height. Get the upper ride height correct also and it’s perfect to use when approaching big bumps in the road to get some more air in the bags.

Start driving, don’t be just being a steering wheel holding junkie.

I’ve driven 04-54-06-08-58-60-13 plate scania’s 6cylinder and V8 models, never seen that switch on any of them. :wink:

Best just carry on feeding addiction :unamused:

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Why do Scania’s have to be so ‘Special’ . My MAN’s 5th wheel stays at the same height whether the lift axle is raised or not !
47" Low position
50" Driving position
54" High Position

Is it because MAN’s are so ‘Cheap’ & Nasty (according to the ‘Swedish Drivers’/ I drive a Big Motor, but only got a small c#*k brigade)

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martinviking:
Why do Scania’s have to be so ‘Special’ . My MAN’s 5th wheel stays at the same height whether the lift axle is raised or not !
47" Low position
50" Driving position
54" High Position

Is it because MAN’s are so ‘Cheap’ & Nasty (according to the ‘Swedish Drivers’/ I drive a Big Motor, but only got a small c#*k brigade)

Wouldnt have minded having the MAN 480 that I had on demo for 2 weeks last year, briliant truck, cheap maybe nasty definatly not.

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martinviking:
Why do Scania’s have to be so ‘Special’ . My MAN’s 5th wheel stays at the same height whether the lift axle is raised or not !
47" Low position
50" Driving position
54" High Position

Is it because MAN’s are so ‘Cheap’ & Nasty (according to the ‘Swedish Drivers’/ I drive a Big Motor, but only got a small c#*k brigade)

“but only got a small c#*k brigade”

why has everything have to come to this■■? calling people diffident stuff just because of what they drive or like, ■■■■ :frowning:
MAN has some smart solutions and are owned by the same company as Scania

Saw some comments on that ride height button. Well apart from the old work were I probably sat in 100 different Scanias. I have driven exactly 28 of them from r420 to r620 on OTR work and every single one of them has had that button so actually thought it was STD equipment.

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limeyphil:

switchlogic:

limeyphil:
Far too many steering wheel attendants.
There are several ride height options on a scania.
Too many just get in and drive. all these buttons and switches are there to be used, not there to self distruct the lorry.

And Scania just designed it to raise the suspension when the middle axle is up for fun then did they? I’d hate to see the state of the tyres after you’ve been in it. Put it down to normal ride height and the middle axle is barely off the ground.

I don’t adjust it manually, there are pre programmed settings.
There is an easy way though. Lift the midlift, Then drop the drive axle suspension, Then press the reset button, hey presto normal ride height. all done with the handbrake off.

And then it will raise back up again you numpty!

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FarnboroughBoy11:

Tarrman:

limeyphil:
Regarding the comments about extra ride height when the lift axle is up.
Learn to operate your lorry. :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:
FFS. :laughing:

On the Scania with the mid lift raised it raises the ride height by 3". I thought this was common knowledge :unamused: If you really wanted to be fussy you could mess with the ride height manually but surely this would only increase mid lift (when lifted) tyre scrub when going over bumps/lumps in the road and kind of defeat the object of having it lifted. Never heard of the ride height increasing on the likes of a MAN TGX 6x2 or any other truck with a 6x2 mid lift set up. I stand to be corrected.

I still don’t get your logic?
It doesn’t raise it up by 3 inches anyway as the trailers height is usually based on a 1250mm which is roughly what a scania is with it’s mid lift raised.,… Mine is anyway.

Limeyphil is right, it doesn’t matter if it raises it 2 ft, know what your running at and know the dimensions of your vehicle as running empty with the mid lift down because it runs lower in height is a poor weak excuse in my opinion. (and I know you said you run with it up anyway)

Who said anything about running with it down when empty to lower the overall running height? Some folk run with it down when fully laden or when only lightly loaded, and you’d have to be driving a bit quicker than normal to get the back end (of the unit) to kick out in greasy conditions. Sure its very easilly done but take it into account the road conditions when driving! And as for knowing the dimensions of the vehicle, I do know the dimensions of the for mentioned vehicle hence my post!

The poor OP simply asked a question and all pages of off topic content have appeared by people claiming to know different about a different topic. Come on guys, put your CSi notepads down and answer the original question (most have). Start another post for driving with the midlift down.

That’s my rant for the day.

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Icee:

martinviking:
Why do Scania’s have to be so ‘Special’ . My MAN’s 5th wheel stays at the same height whether the lift axle is raised or not !
47" Low position
50" Driving position
54" High Position

Is it because MAN’s are so ‘Cheap’ & Nasty (according to the ‘Swedish Drivers’/ I drive a Big Motor, but only got a small c#*k brigade)

“but only got a small c#*k brigade”

why has everything have to come to this■■? calling people diffident stuff just because of what they drive or like, ■■■■ :frowning:
MAN has some smart solutions and are owned by the same company as Scania

Saw some comments on that ride height button. Well apart from the old work were I probably sat in 100 different Scanias. I have driven exactly 28 of them from r420 to r620 on OTR work and every single one of them has had that button so actually thought it was mSTD equipment.

I put that comment in because of all the ‘Super Duper Scania Drivers’ who ‘Slag Off’ most of the so called cheaper vehicles on the road.
I’ve driven Scania’s, Volvo’s, Merc’s, Daf’s, Iveco’s, Ford’s, Man’s etc & surprisingly they all do the same job- ie Deliver Stuff !
Admittedly, MAN’s do have some issues with the plastics & maybe the gearbox’s but then every manufacturer has it’s little quirks, Scania’s are expensive. Volvo’s are as well & Merc’s are just Merc’s. All the rest are budget models (if you can call 'em that !) I don’t mind what I drive as long as it earns me a wage at the end of the week. But I don’t usually ‘Slag’ other makes off just because I’m high & mighty & above all the rest.
(Just contradicted myself by ‘Slagging’ off the expensive models, Lol ! Off to sleep now !)

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martinviking:

Icee:

martinviking:
Why do Scania’s have to be so ‘Special’ . My MAN’s 5th wheel stays at the same height whether the lift axle is raised or not !
47" Low position
50" Driving position
54" High Position

Is it because MAN’s are so ‘Cheap’ & Nasty (according to the ‘Swedish Drivers’/ I drive a Big Motor, but only got a small c#*k brigade)

“but only got a small c#*k brigade”

why has everything have to come to this■■? calling people diffident stuff just because of what they drive or like, ■■■■ :frowning:
MAN has some smart solutions and are owned by the same company as Scania

Saw some comments on that ride height button. Well apart from the old work were I probably sat in 100 different Scanias. I have driven exactly 28 of them from r420 to r620 on OTR work and every single one of them has had that button so actually thought it was mSTD equipment.

I put that comment in because of all the ‘Super Duper Scania Drivers’ who ‘Slag Off’ most of the so called cheaper vehicles on the road.
I’ve driven Scania’s, Volvo’s, Merc’s, Daf’s, Iveco’s, Ford’s, Man’s etc & surprisingly they all do the same job- ie Deliver Stuff !
Admittedly, MAN’s do have some issues with the plastics & maybe the gearbox’s but then every manufacturer has it’s little quirks, Scania’s are expensive. Volvo’s are as well & Merc’s are just Merc’s. All the rest are budget models (if you can call 'em that !) I don’t mind what I drive as long as it earns me a wage at the end of the week. But I don’t usually ‘Slag’ other makes off just because I’m high & mighty & above all the rest.
(Just contradicted myself by ‘Slagging’ off the expensive models, Lol ! Off to sleep now !)

Well, they all do the same job but if I get to choose I prefer Scania, Man and Volvo (not the new FH; has to many stupid solutions for my taste).

If i was presented to a Daf (never ever seen anything so badly built), Iveco (driven a Stralis for two weeks and never ever again), Reanult, MB I would start doing something else. I’m doing this thing cause it’s still FUN as hell in the winter, snow, -10, 50t gross and 10% hill with a lot of twists is the best part of this work and of course for the easy money :slight_smile: When i don’t like it anymore I quite cause it’s not worth being away from home if it tastes ■■■■.

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bigtruck:

limeyphil:

switchlogic:

limeyphil:
Far too many steering wheel attendants.
There are several ride height options on a scania.
Too many just get in and drive. all these buttons and switches are there to be used, not there to self distruct the lorry.

And Scania just designed it to raise the suspension when the middle axle is up for fun then did they? I’d hate to see the state of the tyres after you’ve been in it. Put it down to normal ride height and the middle axle is barely off the ground.

I don’t adjust it manually, there are pre programmed settings.
There is an easy way though. Lift the midlift, Then drop the drive axle suspension, Then press the reset button, hey presto normal ride height. all done with the handbrake off.

And then it will raise back up again you numpty!

Try it before you make a fool of yourself. :unamused:

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limeyphil:

bigtruck:

limeyphil:

switchlogic:

limeyphil:
Far too many steering wheel attendants.
There are several ride height options on a scania.
Too many just get in and drive. all these buttons and switches are there to be used, not there to self distruct the lorry.

And Scania just designed it to raise the suspension when the middle axle is up for fun then did they? I’d hate to see the state of the tyres after you’ve been in it. Put it down to normal ride height and the middle axle is barely off the ground.

I don’t adjust it manually, there are pre programmed settings.
There is an easy way though. Lift the midlift, Then drop the drive axle suspension, Then press the reset button, hey presto normal ride height. all done with the handbrake off.

And then it will raise back up again you numpty!

Try it before you make a fool of yourself. :unamused:

If it does work every bump in the road will be knocking ■■■■■ out of the tyres on the middle axle.

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bigtruck:

limeyphil:

bigtruck:

limeyphil:

switchlogic:

limeyphil:
Far too many steering wheel attendants.
There are several ride height options on a scania.
Too many just get in and drive. all these buttons and switches are there to be used, not there to self distruct the lorry.

And Scania just designed it to raise the suspension when the middle axle is up for fun then did they? I’d hate to see the state of the tyres after you’ve been in it. Put it down to normal ride height and the middle axle is barely off the ground.

I don’t adjust it manually, there are pre programmed settings.
There is an easy way though. Lift the midlift, Then drop the drive axle suspension, Then press the reset button, hey presto normal ride height. all done with the handbrake off.

And then it will raise back up again you numpty!

Try it before you make a fool of yourself. :unamused:

If it does work every bump in the road will be knocking [zb] out of the tyres on the middle axle.

It doesn’t work.

73

switchlogic:

bigtruck:

limeyphil:

bigtruck:

limeyphil:

switchlogic:

limeyphil:
Far too many steering wheel attendants.
There are several ride height options on a scania.
Too many just get in and drive. all these buttons and switches are there to be used, not there to self distruct the lorry.

And Scania just designed it to raise the suspension when the middle axle is up for fun then did they? I’d hate to see the state of the tyres after you’ve been in it. Put it down to normal ride height and the middle axle is barely off the ground.

I don’t adjust it manually, there are pre programmed settings.
There is an easy way though. Lift the midlift, Then drop the drive axle suspension, Then press the reset button, hey presto normal ride height. all done with the handbrake off.

And then it will raise back up again you numpty!

Try it before you make a fool of yourself. :unamused:

If it does work every bump in the road will be knocking [zb] out of the tyres on the middle axle.

It doesn’t work.

I didn’t think it would as when you press the reset button she lifts her ■■■ back up!

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I would lift and go if possible.
axles down in wind to improve stability

75

hitch:
axles down in wind to improve stability

:laughing: :laughing:

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hitch:
I would lift and go if possible.
axles down in wind to improve stability

Is that from a DCPC module? :laughing:

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Scanner:

hitch:
I would lift and go if possible.
axles down in wind to improve stability

Is that from a DCPC module? :laughing:

Not everyone one does stuff out of books, some use tried and tested experience :unamused:

Some off that experience comes from when running 3+3 conssesions meant the axle had to be down, even on a light load :wink:

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eddie snax:

Scanner:

hitch:
I would lift and go if possible.
axles down in wind to improve stability

Is that from a DCPC module? :laughing:

Not everyone one does stuff out of books, some use tried and tested experience :unamused:

Some off that experience comes from when running 3+3 conssesions meant the axle had to be down, even on a light load :wink:

Why?

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FarnboroughBoy11:

eddie snax:

Scanner:

hitch:
I would lift and go if possible.
axles down in wind to improve stability

Is that from a DCPC module? :laughing:

Not everyone one does stuff out of books, some use tried and tested experience :unamused:

Some off that experience comes from when running 3+3 conssesions meant the axle had to be down, even on a light load :wink:

Why?

That does ring a bell from the dim and distant, when RFL for different combinations was completely crazy, thousands of pounds difference between a 6x2 and a 4x2 depending on what you plated them at, what kind of suspension etc etc. You also had to do mad things like change 5th wheel mounting bolts for weaker ones if you wanted to downplate from 38 to 28T for example.

That was at the start of my working life, I hope my claims are correct because my memory is awful! :blush:

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Scanner:

FarnboroughBoy11:

eddie snax:

Scanner:

hitch:
I would lift and go if possible.
axles down in wind to improve stability

Is that from a DCPC module? :laughing:

Not everyone one does stuff out of books, some use tried and tested experience :unamused:

Some off that experience comes from when running 3+3 conssesions meant the axle had to be down, even on a light load :wink:

Why?

That does ring a bell from the dim and distant, when RFL for different combinations was completely crazy, thousands of pounds difference between a 6x2 and a 4x2 depending on what you plated them at, what kind of suspension etc etc. You also had to do mad things like change 5th wheel mounting bolts for weaker ones if you wanted to downplate from 38 to 28T for example.

That was at the start of my working life, I hope my claims are correct because my memory is awful! :blush:

Yeah thats right about the bolts, I remember an Owner driver who lived in our village brought an F7 ex Bartrums, it plated for 38 tonnes, he downrated it to 28 tonnes, mainly for cardboard :wink:

FarnboroughBoy11:

eddie snax:

Scanner:

hitch:
I would lift and go if possible.
axles down in wind to improve stability

Is that from a DCPC module? :laughing:

Not everyone one does stuff out of books, some use tried and tested experience :unamused:

Some off that experience comes from when running 3+3 conssesions meant the axle had to be down, even on a light load :wink:

Why?

if your queiry is to do with the stability, then I cant tell you why, just that it does have an effect, if you have around 7-8ton payload or more on a 44 tonner, then when its moderatly windy, not put you on your side type wind, and not if its lashing down with rain so you’d aqua-plane, but dry or damp road, then with the mid-lift down you will find that the truck keeps a better straight line as the wind try’s pushing you around, whilst on a dual carriageway or motorway.

If your queiry is to do with the 3+3 thing, then on re reading it I’ll refrase it. when running on 3+3 consessions, anything that is not a fixed part of the trailer constitutes a load, and as such all wheels must be in contact with the ground, that included empty containers.

Hope that clarrifies it a bit :wink:

PS, I wouldnt run with a mid lift down except for weight, in any other circumstances, as some other have suggested, got to do your bit for tyres and fuel :wink: