Employers and drivers each face a £1,000 fine if they are found to be driving without their Driver Qualification Card (DQC), the Driver Standards Agency has warned.
In association with the DSA, Vosa has begun handling out leaflets at enforcement checks clarifying the legal position around Driver CPC and the requirement to have a DQC with you at all times.
It clearly states that both the operator and driver face a fine if the driver can not produce his DQC when requested to do so by Vosa officials.
It means all new drivers must ensure they have their DQC on them at all times when working.
Drivers with grandfather rights (those driving before September 2009), which have until September 2014 to complete 35 hours of mandatory periodic training, will need to carry their cards after this deadline.
Karen Crispe, MD at Tachodisc, says: “Until now it has been unclear as to what penalties will surround Driver CPC after the 2014 enforcement deadline.
“The DSA announcement that both drivers and employers face fines of up to £1,000 each if a driver does not carry a DQC card whilst driving sends out a strong message — it enforces the seriousness of Driver CPC. With employers at risk too, the responsibility for completing 35 hours of training cannot just lie with the driver anymore.”
so there we go for everyone not doing the dcpc this is what you will face
People need to realise that this is not going to go away. On a plus side, maybe if they dont do it then it will mean more oppurtunities for those of us that do it.
skids:
People need to realise that this is not going to go away. On a plus side, maybe if they dont do it then it will mean more oppurtunities for those of us that do it.
wildfire:
Karen Crispe, MD at Tachodisc, says: “Until now it has been unclear as to what penalties will surround Driver CPC after the 2014 enforcement deadline.
It hasn’t Karen it has been known for quite some time on these forums.
A person guilty of an offence under this regulation shall be liable upon summary conviction to a fine not exceeding level 3 on the standard scale.
Legend_Scania:
Can someone explain what grandfather rights are
Iv Heared it a few times now
It simply means gaining a qualification through experience without examination. Old drivers like Harry never had to take a test, but they are still drivers. Managers and Operators didn’t need to take the Operator CPC when it was introduced.
Legend_Scania:
Can someone explain what grandfather rights are
Iv Heared it a few times now
Quite simply, it means drivers who gained their entitlement to drive before September 2009 will not have to carry the card or do any of the training before the cut off point in 2014.
Although anyone who wishes to drive beyond 2014 would be advised to start well before that date, also not having a card will not affect your license entitlement nor indeed your ability to drive you just won’t be able to do it for reward.
Anything that cuts the number of drivers entitled to drive down* and discourages new drivers will help those of us in these hardest of times.
I already carry it anyway. 3 licensing cards plus the bit of paper. Pink, Brown & Blue. With the amount of other cards in my wallet it’s the least I can do
Limeyphil? Surely one would hope that their bodies wouldn’t give way and get locked in amidst backs and hips locked up togther…
Grandfather rights are what some drivers had when they got their licence because they’ve had it so long. Before 1997 drivers could drive a 7.5t on their licence, C1.
The government have been quick to push for people to get these cards & qualifications, but slow to render above-board access to them at minimum cost.
I think I’ll get mine in “Manager Management” or “Inflation Dodging” or “System Beating”. It’ll be more useful than HIAB for a pay cut, ADR for the same pay but more work, or get grounded when you don’t want to with a office course!
All these extra layers of red tape cause nothing but more income for our inflated, fiddled, and bent establishment.
It won’t be much longer now 'til drivers have to pay haulage owner to work for them!
The only difference between Somalia and the UK is good transport links, with stuff to buy in the shops - for now.
Both countries already have bent establishments, it isn’t safe to walk the streets, and you’re likely to get ripped off if you attempt even passing the place by!
Couple that with population explosions in undesirable elements that then push for Sharia law, inflation-producing moneylenders that won’t let prices fall (except for wages!) and of course endemic piracy. Ok, in the UK Piracy is of the Inland kind! but these constant red-tape demands are no different from ransom notes really are they? Medical this, DCPC that, Has to be renewed every 5 years the other. Even when they ■■■■-up large on the digicards, you get a replacement that expires later this same year, rather than one renewed for free, to compensate for THEIR ■■■■-up! Proof if any more needed that its all just one big revenue raising exercise.
It’s “Spend £100’s of money and 35 hours of your time every 5 years just to keep your stagnant-paid job you’re in now”
NO higher pay that one normally associates with extra qualifications, NO job security because Unions no longer have any power, and LOSING your job to the first immigrant or corrupted-work-ethic-northerner who walks in the door offering to work for less.
C+E. A job that will never be done by robots - no matter what anyone says.
It is already an offence under Regulation 11 to drive commercially without carrying proof of Driver CPC, though that can be a driving licence for those with acquired rights.
By way of explanation, “summary conviction” means conviction in the magistrates’ court, and “Level 3” means up to £1000. I haven’t checked to see whether there’s any legal powers to issue a fixed penalty for failure to show evidence of DCPC when driving an LGV or PCV commercially, and whether a prohibition can be issued when the driver cannot prove their DCPC status.
Ultimately, I would expect failure to have DCPC when driving an LGV or PCV commercially will be an endorseable fixed penalty, rather like speeding - three points on your licence and a fine of somewhere around £100. I would also expect powers to issue a prohibition on the vehicle and to take action against the operator.
Saratoga:
I already carry it anyway. 3 licensing cards plus the bit of paper. Pink, Brown & Blue. With the amount of other cards in my wallet it’s the least I can do
If you have a DQC, it makes sense to carry it, even if you have acquired rights and can therefore prove your DCPC status with your driving licence.
this is illegal. it’s like being forced to carry and ID card.
you don’t have to carry your licence, insurance, or mot with you.
whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty.
You are probably correct Phil, but as I already carry ID for other systems then I might as well carry these too.
The last time I was stopped by Police and handed over ID my point to them was that as my ID has been confirmed against my VRM and we’re not in a Police State, I don’t smell of alcohol on a friday night and I’m alone in my car, was there anything else they wanted or could I carry on?
However, getting pulled over once every 2-3 years isn’t a major price to pay, right?
Just how many licences are out there issued SINCE 2009 or whatever the cut-off acquired rights date was?
I would have thought that 99% of drivers have the “grandfather rights” already, and therefore don’t carry the card until compelled to, which is still not yet.
I have my DQC card clipped onto my hi-vis jacket which I wear to work every morning and in the occasion where i take my jacket off then I clip it to my shirt.
There are a few places and events that informally they want me to carry ID badges on display but their wording says only need to carry it. I’m not going to be clipping my ID to me unless they specifically required it and enforce it, the rest is just OTT.
Same with all identification. I carry it, and if you want to see it you have to ask. Easy, right?
I know you’re a new Class 1 driver and all but I think that is a bit OTT.
