I was on board the P&O new flag ship boat " Spirit of France " nice boat it’s exactly the same as the " spirit of Britain"
Any way I sat down to have my fish and chips and was joined by my double man partner …And another English driver this is where it all started …
ED “” alright mate"
Me " not bad Ta "
ED " got pulled today by the French "
Me " really "
Ed " yeah, he done me € 590 "
Me ( intake of breath) what for mate, did you go for his gun?"
(My mate then spat out his coke he was drinking)
ED " no … It was for not putting the tacho to ferry mode"
Me " you were done pal, no such thing as ferry mode"
ED " ■■■■■■■ is mate! Are you running on digi? It’s in the menu , you MUST put in every time your on a ferry!! "
Me " even the woolwich ferry…"
ED … " errrr … "
With that I said " perhaps they should do a *Janet and John version of the regs mate then you may just may understand them !!"
With that I picked my plate up and moved elsewhere to stare at the " tray drop"
I have no idea of his reaction as I didn’t look back. Why are there so many ■■■■■■■ knob heads on this job that have to force there bull crap. It drives me mad .
janet and John quip stolen from coffeeholic in another thread…
BanburyDan:
Yep there is a ferry mode on my tacho, used it a few times before now…
I have to ask … When have you used this “” ferry MODE""
When I get onto a ferry - I think you can do it when you are queueing to load as well (those with more experience than me will know more) and then it goes off once you start driving. I think you are allowed 30 mins driving for getting onto and off of the ferry. Only applies to a digi, never seen anything like it on an analogue. Only spotted it when I read the book that came with the tacho if I am honest, takes some cycling through to find it. When its set you see a picture of a boat/ferry on the tacho screen.
4.5.2 Ferry/Train Crossing Mode Selection
This mode is selected by entering the ‘Out of Scope/Ferry’ sub-menu using the same method as described in section
4.5.1 Out of Scope Driving above. However in this case, the ‘Ferry’ option (identified by the ‘’ pictogram) should be highlighted using the ‘up’ or ‘down buttons before pressing the ‘enter’ button. Once enabled, the ‘Ferry/Train Crossing’ mode is identified by the ‘Ferry’ () symbol being
displayed in the top left corner of the standard driving display in place of the Driver duty symbol.
To disable the ‘Ferry/Train Crossing’ mode first enter the ‘Out of Scope/Ferry’ sub-menu from the
main menu as described above. The screen will then be as shown opposite. The VU is asking the
question “End ‘Ferry/Crossing’ Condition yes/no?” - press the ‘up’ or ‘down’ buttons to highlight the
yes (‘’) option and then the ‘enter’ button to end the ‘Ferry/Crossing’ condition. Alternatively to
keep the ‘Ferry/Crossing’ condition active, press either the ‘enter’ button with the no (‘’) option highlighted or the ‘cancel’ button. If the
condition is disabled, the small ‘Ferry’ () symbol will no longer be displayed in the top left corner of the standard driving display.
jimboy124:
Why are there so many [zb] knob heads on this job that have to force there bull crap. It drives me mad .
You’re going to have to accept a certain amount of responsability for this. He’s obviously looked around and thought who can i go and give a load of old spiel too…?
Martin:
Stoneridge Electronics
Digital Tachograph SE5000
4.5.2 Ferry/Train Crossing Mode Selection
This mode is selected by entering the ‘Out of Scope/Ferry’ sub-menu using the same method as described in section
4.5.1 Out of Scope Driving above. However in this case, the ‘Ferry’ option (identified by the ‘’ pictogram) should be highlighted using the ‘up’ or ‘down buttons before pressing the ‘enter’ button. Once enabled, the ‘Ferry/Train Crossing’ mode is identified by the ‘Ferry’ () symbol being
displayed in the top left corner of the standard driving display in place of the Driver duty symbol.
To disable the ‘Ferry/Train Crossing’ mode first enter the ‘Out of Scope/Ferry’ sub-menu from the
main menu as described above. The screen will then be as shown opposite. The VU is asking the
question “End ‘Ferry/Crossing’ Condition yes/no?” - press the ‘up’ or ‘down’ buttons to highlight the
yes (‘’) option and then the ‘enter’ button to end the ‘Ferry/Crossing’ condition. Alternatively to
keep the ‘Ferry/Crossing’ condition active, press either the ‘enter’ button with the no (‘’) option highlighted or the ‘cancel’ button. If the
condition is disabled, the small ‘Ferry’ () symbol will no longer be displayed in the top left corner of the standard driving display.
For which Stoneridge need repeatedly slapping with a very large, very wet, fish. Nothing in that tells the correct way to use the ferry option in the menu.
jimboy124:
Why are there so many [zb] knob heads on this job that have to force there bull crap. It drives me mad .
You’re going to have to accept a certain amount of responsability for this. He’s obviously looked around and thought who can i go and give a load of old spiel too…?
You have met me mike at truckfest … Have I got a face like that? Lol
Martin:
Stoneridge Electronics
Digital Tachograph SE5000
4.5.2 Ferry/Train Crossing Mode Selection
This mode is selected by entering the ‘Out of Scope/Ferry’ sub-menu using the same method as described in section
4.5.1 Out of Scope Driving above. However in this case, the ‘Ferry’ option (identified by the ‘’ pictogram) should be highlighted using the ‘up’ or ‘down buttons before pressing the ‘enter’ button. Once enabled, the ‘Ferry/Train Crossing’ mode is identified by the ‘Ferry’ () symbol being
displayed in the top left corner of the standard driving display in place of the Driver duty symbol.
To disable the ‘Ferry/Train Crossing’ mode first enter the ‘Out of Scope/Ferry’ sub-menu from the
main menu as described above. The screen will then be as shown opposite. The VU is asking the
question “End ‘Ferry/Crossing’ Condition yes/no?” - press the ‘up’ or ‘down’ buttons to highlight the
yes (‘’) option and then the ‘enter’ button to end the ‘Ferry/Crossing’ condition. Alternatively to
keep the ‘Ferry/Crossing’ condition active, press either the ‘enter’ button with the no (‘’) option highlighted or the ‘cancel’ button. If the
condition is disabled, the small ‘Ferry’ () symbol will no longer be displayed in the top left corner of the standard driving display.
BanburyDan:
Yep there is a ferry mode on my tacho, used it a few times before now…
No there isn’t
Don’t want to argue, just accept I am right.
Nope, sorry, but its definitely there on my digi which is a seimens.
You are totally missing the point. There are only four modes … There is no ferry mode … please tell me where you have used this allusive " ferry mode" and on what crossing and in what context … And please tell me where I can get a copy of your Janet and John regulation book ?
BanburyDan:
Yep there is a ferry mode on my tacho, used it a few times before now…
No there isn’t
Don’t want to argue, just accept I am right.
Nope, sorry, but its definitely there on my digi which is a seimens.
No it isn’t, there is no ferry MODE. The available modes on a tachograph, digital or analogue, are driving (selected automatically on all but some really old units), Other Work, POA and Break/Rest. That’s it. There is an option to explain why you are interrupting your daily rest period when boarding, or disembarking from, a ferry or train but there is no ferry mode.
In what circumstances have you used this magical non existent mode and did you see any unicorns while using it?
BanburyDan:
Yep there is a ferry mode on my tacho, used it a few times before now…
No there isn’t
Don’t want to argue, just accept I am right.
Nope, sorry, but its definitely there on my digi which is a seimens.
You are totally missing the point. There are only four modes … There is no ferry mode … please tell me where you have used this allusive " ferry mode" and on what crossing and in what context … And please tell me where I can get a copy of your Janet and John regulation book ?
On the ferry to France taking a milk float over to Amsterdam is you really want to know. I don’t know what more I can tell you guys, its there in the handbook for the tacho. I can offer no comment on the point or pointlessness of it, or if the copper was right or wrong, but there is a procedure to follow for when the vehicle is on board a ferry (I understand it also applies on a train). I suppose to be pedantic it isn’t a mode in the sense of work, rest, or drive, but you can certainly tell you tacho you are on a ferry/train.
Since I continue with the old tacho card, I do know the people I work with do use the ferry function on their digi,I believe once they have moved onto the boat.As for getting done for not moving the mode,bout par for the course in France.Stopped the other week,he pulled up,jumped out his car opened the boot to reveal his computor and came over and asked for my card,keh? He was really upset I had cards,asked for 28 and looked through them thoroughly in about 3 seconds flat and handed them back with a snort of disgust.I know it might have been boring at the meal table but I expect it was a true event.I am sure you are aware France is as skint as we are,money has to come from somewhere.
