Ever picked your plate up and moved away?

[coffeeholic]

BanburyDan:

jimboy124:

BanburyDan:

Coffeeholic:

BanburyDan:
Yep there is a ferry mode on my tacho, used it a few times before now…

No there isn’t

Don’t want to argue, just accept I am right.

Nope, sorry, but its definitely there on my digi which is a seimens.

You are totally missing the point. There are only four modes … There is no ferry mode … please tell me where you have used this allusive " ferry mode" and on what crossing and in what context … And please tell me where I can get a copy of your Janet and John regulation book ?

On the ferry to France taking a milk float over to Amsterdam is you really want to know. I don’t know what more I can tell you guys, its there in the handbook for the tacho. I can offer no comment on the point or pointlessness of it, or if the copper was right or wrong, but there is a procedure to follow for when the vehicle is on board a ferry (I understand it also applies on a train). I suppose to be pedantic it isn’t a mode in the sense of work, rest, or drive, but you can certainly tell you tacho you are on a ferry/train.

There is absolutely no reason under any of the regulations to tell your tacho you are on a ferry or train and that is not what the option is for. There is no procedure to follow when using a ferry or train unless you are interrupting your daily rest. If you aren’t doing that then you use the tacho no differently to the way you do if you pull into a truck stop, lay-by or MSA for a break.

The option is the digital equivalent of the chewed Biro we used to use to write on the back of a tacho chart an explanation of why we were moving and interrupting our daily rest period. If you aren’t interrupting your daily rest to board and/or disembark from a ferry or train you do not use it.

I guess if you were going to Amsterdam via ferry to France you would have used one of the crossings from Dover and you would never use the ferry option sailing out of Dover because you cannot use the interrupted rest option on those crossings.

[jimboy124]

BanburyDan:

jimboy124:

BanburyDan:

Coffeeholic:

BanburyDan:
Yep there is a ferry mode on my tacho, used it a few times before now…

No there isn’t

Don’t want to argue, just accept I am right.

Nope, sorry, but its definitely there on my digi which is a seimens.

You are totally missing the point. There are only four modes … There is no ferry mode … please tell me where you have used this allusive " ferry mode" and on what crossing and in what context … And please tell me where I can get a copy of your Janet and John regulation book ?

On the ferry to France taking a milk float over to Amsterdam is you really want to know. I don’t know what more I can tell you guys, its there in the handbook for the tacho. I can offer no comment on the point or pointlessness of it, or if the copper was right or wrong, but there is a procedure to follow for when the vehicle is on board a ferry (I understand it also applies on a train). I suppose to be pedantic it isn’t a mode in the sense of work, rest, or drive, but you can certainly tell you tacho you are on a ferry/train.

So there is no ferry mode… Is that what your saying? And if you used the ferry … Shall we call it option ? On the Dover/Calais crossing you can’t use that … Option … because you do not have access to a bunk or couchette? you should only use that ferry option when interrupting your daily rest period?

[coffeeholic]

Armagedon:
Since I continue with the old tacho card, I do know the people I work with do use the ferry function on their digi,I believe once they have moved onto the boat.

They shouldn’t be. If you are making use of this option you would use it before you start to move from the lane to the boat and possibly again just prior to disembarkation.

Armagedon:
I know it might have been boring at the meal table but I expect it was a true event.

Very little chance it was true, not even for the French who like to try to invent things. They can make enough money round that area from drivers using the split rest option without having to make up a ‘Ferry Mode’ offence.

[armagedon]

There you go,so many people,so many ideas about what is right or wrong.

[coffeeholic]

AHT:

Denis F:
must be one, it’s on a dcpc course

driver-cpc-uk.co.uk/course-breakdown.php

Driver CPC Training
Breakdown of the 5 Course Modules

Module 1b (Digital Tachographs)

Setting the tachograph to ‘ferry’ mode.

Not sure if that was intended as a ■■■■ take but
How to record interruptions of daily rest during ferry journeys.

Does apear about half way down the list of topics

Instructions also found on page 24 here
digital-tachograph.com/files … Manual.pdf

Those aren’t instructions on how to use the interrupted rest option when using a ferry or train. Those are just instructions on how to access a menu and press buttons. The two aren’t even close.

[mike-c]

jimboy124:

Mike-C:

jimboy124:
Why are there so many [zb] knob heads on this job that have to force there bull crap. It drives me mad .

You’re going to have to accept a certain amount of responsability for this. He’s obviously looked around and thought who can i go and give a load of old spiel too…?

You have met me mike at truckfest … Have I got a face like that? Lol

I remember well. I wouldn’t of thought so, but i did see a gullible side to ya !!!

[coffeeholic]

Mike-C:

jimboy124:

Mike-C:

jimboy124:
Why are there so many [zb] knob heads on this job that have to force there bull crap. It drives me mad .

You’re going to have to accept a certain amount of responsability for this. He’s obviously looked around and thought who can i go and give a load of old spiel too…?

You have met me mike at truckfest … Have I got a face like that? Lol

I remember well. I wouldn’t of thought so, but i did see a gullible side to ya !!!

He can be, I’ve got him a couple of times.

[coffeeholic]

Armagedon:
There you go,so many people,so many ideas about what is right or wrong.

Well here is the right way.

========================================================================================
Detailed instructions for making use of the ferry option while using a ferry and interrupting your daily rest.

Arrive in port after no more than about 12 hours since the start of your shift.

Book on ferry and move to lanes to wait for boarding.

Change mode to rest and select end country to begin daily rest period.

Just prior to boarding change mode to other work, navigate the menu to the ferry option and select it. This marks the data with the reason you are interrupting your rest period, think of it as an old Biro scribbling an explanation on a tacho chart.

Drive on board, mode will change to driving.

Park, change mode to rest and go upstairs. Collect your cabin key and enjoy the crossing.

Two options now

1. You have not had 11 hours rest in total from the period before boarding and the period on board.

Return to the vehicle, change the mode to other work and again navigate the menu and select the ferry option. This again marks the data with the reason for the interruption, keep thinking of it as an old Biro scribbling an explanation on a tacho chart.

Disembark when called forward, mode will change to driving.

Park up, change mode to rest.

When you have at least 11 hours total rest from the three rest periods change mode to other work, select begin country and crack on.

2. If you have had at least 11 hours total rest between the two periods.

Return to the vehicle, change mode to other work, select begin country and crack on.

NOTE.

The interruption(s) must total no more than one hour. All the other daily rest requirements apply so you cannot do more than 12 - 12.5 hours before arriving at the port or there will not be enough time to fit the interruption(s) and the 11 hour rest required into the 24-hour period. You must have access to a bunk or couchette for all parts of the rest and a reclining chair or fancy sun lounger on a ferry is neither a bunk or couchette.

========================================================================================
Detailed instructions for making use of the ferry option while using a ferry but not while on daily rest.

Leave the [zb]ing ferry option alone. Don’t navigate to it and don’t select it.

[jimboy124]

Coffeeholic:

Mike-C:

jimboy124:

Mike-C:

jimboy124:
Why are there so many [zb] knob heads on this job that have to force there bull crap. It drives me mad .

You’re going to have to accept a certain amount of responsability for this. He’s obviously looked around and thought who can i go and give a load of old spiel too…?

You have met me mike at truckfest … Have I got a face like that? Lol

I remember well. I wouldn’t of thought so, but i did see a gullible side to ya !!!

He can be, I’ve got him a couple of times.

Yeah thanks for the " they have taken the word gullible out of the dictionary this week Jim "

Have they Neil? I replied …

[jimboy124]

Coffeeholic:

Armagedon:
There you go,so many people,so many ideas about what is right or wrong.

Well here is the right way.

========================================================================================
Detailed instructions for making use of the ferry option while using a ferry and interrupting your daily rest.

Arrive in port after no more than about 12 hours since the start of your shift.

Book on ferry and move to lanes to wait for boarding.

Change mode to rest and select end country to begin daily rest period.

Just prior to boarding change mode to other work, navigate the menu to the ferry option and select it. This marks the data with the reason you are interrupting your rest period, think of it as an old Biro scribbling an explanation on a tacho chart.

Drive on board, mode will change to driving.

Park, change mode to rest and go upstairs. Collect your cabin key and enjoy the crossing.

Two options now

1. You have not had 11 hours rest in total from the period before boarding and the period on board.

Return to the vehicle, change the mode to other work and again navigate the menu and select the ferry option. This again marks the data with the reason for the interruption, keep thinking of it as an old Biro scribbling an explanation on a tacho chart.

Disembark when called forward, mode will change to driving.

Park up, change mode to rest.

When you have at least 11 hours total rest from the three rest periods change mode to other work, select begin country and crack on.

2. If you have had at least 11 hours total rest between the two periods.

Return to the vehicle, change mode to other work, select begin country and crack on.

NOTE.

The interruption(s) must total no more than one hour. All the other daily rest requirements apply so you cannot do more than 12 - 12.5 hours before arriving at the port or there will not be enough time to fit the interruption(s) and the 11 hour rest required into the 24-hour period. You must have access to a bunk or couchette for all parts of the rest and a reclining chair or fancy sun lounger on a ferry is neither a bunk or couchette.

========================================================================================
Detailed instructions for making use of the ferry option while using a ferry but not while on daily rest.

Leave the [zb]ing ferry option alone. Don’t navigate to it and don’t select it.

I am going to print that off and post it all over the ferry and the ■■■■■■■ stinking ■■■■ hole of the train !!! In several different languages !!

[coffeeholic]

But on a plus point he did educate a DCPC trainer in the correct use of the ferry/train option. Even to the extent the said DCPC trainer, after sensibly double checking what Jim had told him, phoned later that day to thank Jim for putting him right.

That is above and beyond the call of duty IMHO.

Cue stirring, military style music.

Thank you Jim for your courage in facing the enemy head on, engaging them and winning the thankless battle. We all owe you.

[gogan]

jimboy124:
I am going to print that off and post it all over the ferry and the [zb] stinking [zb] hole of the train !!! In several different languages !!

You have too much time on your hands.

[jimboy124]

Gogan:

jimboy124:
I am going to print that off and post it all over the ferry and the [zb] stinking [zb] hole of the train !!! In several different languages !!

You have too much time on your hands.

Your right I do …13 days a month I work and never a monday … All for a year so yeah I do have time thank you !!

[jimboy124]

Coffeeholic:
But on a plus point he did educate a DCPC trainer in the correct use of the ferry/train option. Even to the extent the said DCPC trainer, after sensibly double checking what Jim had told him, phoned later that day to thank Jim for putting him right.

That is above and beyond the call of duty IMHO.

Cue stirring, military style music.

Thank you Jim for your courage in facing the enemy head on, engaging them and winning the thankless battle. We all owe you.

I am now wiping my eye … ( not the Japanese one)

[gogan]

jimboy124:
Your right I do …13 days a month I work and never a monday … All for 40k a year so yeah I do ave time thank you !!

You really don’t want to get into a ■■■■■■■ contest with me over the ratio of earnings to hours worked. Lets just say your wages wouldn’t even cover my capital gains tax last year.

[jimboy124]

Gogan:

jimboy124:
Your right I do …13 days a month I work and never a monday … All for 40k a year so yeah I do ave time thank you !!

You really don’t want to get into a ■■■■■■■ contest with me over the ratio of earnings to hours worked. Lets just say your wages wouldn’t even cover capital gains tax last year.

Good work soldier !! , whats capital gains tax? Lol

( the x after my LOL was deleted )

[gogan]

jimboy124:
whats capital gains tax?

In my case it was the portion of the capital increase in the value of my non-liquifiable assets which HMRC requested to cover my contribution towards things like the personal tax allowance which people like yourself benefit from, and which people like myself are exected to fund as a result of being hard working soldiers.

jimboy124:
Lol x

Don’t take this the wrong way, but I’m not into the ‘x’ thing from men, it all seems terribly gay to me. No offence.

[wheel_nut]

Coffeeholic:

BanburyDan:

Coffeeholic:

BanburyDan:
Yep there is a ferry mode on my tacho, used it a few times before now…

No there isn’t

Don’t want to argue, just accept I am right.

Nope, sorry, but its definitely there on my digi which is a seimens.

No it isn’t, there is no ferry MODE. The available modes on a tachograph, digital or analogue, are driving (selected automatically on all but some really old units), Other Work, POA and Break/Rest. That’s it. There is an option to explain why you are interrupting your daily rest period when boarding, or disembarking from, a ferry or train but there is no ferry mode.

In what circumstances have you used this magical non existent mode and did you see any unicorns while using it?

Analogue Ferry “Mode” Tool

I know there is no MODE

[coffeeholic]

Wheel Nut:

Coffeeholic:

BanburyDan:

Coffeeholic:

BanburyDan:
Yep there is a ferry mode on my tacho, used it a few times before now…

No there isn’t

Don’t want to argue, just accept I am right.

Nope, sorry, but its definitely there on my digi which is a seimens.

No it isn’t, there is no ferry MODE. The available modes on a tachograph, digital or analogue, are driving (selected automatically on all but some really old units), Other Work, POA and Break/Rest. That’s it. There is an option to explain why you are interrupting your daily rest period when boarding, or disembarking from, a ferry or train but there is no ferry mode.

In what circumstances have you used this magical non existent mode and did you see any unicorns while using it?

Analogue Ferry “Mode” Tool

I know there is no MODE

I wish I had thought of that and added it to the instructions I posted earlier.

[jimboy124]

Gogan:

jimboy124:
whats capital gains tax?

In my case it was the portion of the capital increase in the value of my non-liquifiable assets which HMRC requested to cover my contribution towards things like the personal tax allowance which people like yourself benefit from, and which people like myself are exected to fund as a result of being hard working soldiers.

jimboy124:
Lol x

Don’t take this the wrong way, but I’m not into the ‘x’ thing from men, it all seems terribly gay to me. No offence.

I totally apologise for the … Errrr … Mmmmm (x) thing … It’s my fat fingers ! I will go back and delete the gay x ! Lol

And the other stuff about " capital increase , personal tax allowance and hard working soldiers."… I bow to your superior knowledge…