Eu referendum whats your vote

2017 the EU was backing the UK and supporting the 4,000 plus Bombardier jobs in Belfast for the aviation side of the company, against threats from the Trump government to impose taxes.
Is supporting a Belfast factory subsidising Canada? Or is it about summat else?

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Juddian:
Came across this post, i found it on another bloggers site, apparently it was a comment on John Redwood MP’s site but not JR’s words though, the author was a fine chap going by the name of Captain Peacock.

I haven’t fact checked it, see what you think :

‘’…its worth reading when you hear May talking about British jobs. This is what the EU is doing for Britain.

Cadbury moved factory to Poland 2011 with EU grant.
Ford Transit moved to Turkey 2013 with EU grant.
Jaguar Land Rover has recently agreed to build a new plant in Slovakia with EU grant, owned by Tata, the same company
Peugeot closed its Ryton (was Rootes Group) plant and moved production to Slovakia with EU grant.
British Army’s new Ajax fighting vehicles to be built in SPAIN using SWEDISH steel at the request of the EU to support jobs in Spain with EU grant, rather than Wales.
Dyson gone to Malaysia, with an EU loan.
Crown Closures, Bournemouth (Was METAL BOX), gone to Poland with EU grant, once employed 1,200.
M&S manufacturing gone to far east with EU loan.
Hornby models gone. In fact all toys and models now gone from UK along with the patents all with with EU grants.
Gillette gone to eastern Europe with EU grant.
Texas Instruments Greenock gone to Germany with EU grant.
Indesit at Bodelwyddan Wales gone with EU grant.
Sekisui Alveo said production at its Merthyr Tydfil Industrial Park foam plant will relocate production to Roermond in the Netherlands, with EU funding.
Hoover Merthyr factory moved out of UK to Czech Republic and the Far East by Italian company Candy with EU backing.
ICI integration into Holland’s AkzoNobel with EU bank loan and within days of the merger, several factories in the UK were closed eliminating 3,500 jobs.
Boots sold to Italians Stefano Pessina who have based their HQ in Switzerland using an EU loan for the purchase.
JDS Uniphase run by two Dutch men, bought up companies in the UK with £20 million in EU ‘regeneration’ grants, (with job losses and closures)
UK airports are owned by a Spanish company.
Scottish Power is owned by a Spanish company.
Most London buses are run by Spanish and German companies.
The Hinkley Point C nuclear power station to be built by French company EDF, part owned by the French government, using cheap Chinese steel that has catastrophically failed in other nuclear installations. Now EDF say the costs will be double or more and it will be very late even if it does come online.
Swindon was once our producer of rail locomotives and rolling stock. Not any more, it’s Bombardier in Derby and due to their losses in the aviation market, that could see the end of the British railways manufacturing altogether even though Bombardier had EU grants to keep Derby going which they diverted to their loss-making aviation side in Canada.
39% of British invention patents have been passed to foreign companies, many of them in the EU.
The Mini cars that Cameron stood in front of as an example of British engineering, are built by BMW mostly in Holland and Austria. His campaign bus was made in Germany even though we have Plaxton, Optare, Bluebird, Dennis etc., in the UK. The bicycle for the Greens was made in the far east, not by Raleigh UK but then they are probably going to move to the Netherlands too as they have said recently.
Anyone who thinks the EU is good for British industry or any other business simply hasn’t paid attention to what has been systematically asset-stripped from the UK. Name me one major technology company still running in the UK, I used to contract out to many, then the work just dried up as they were sold off to companies from France, Germany, Holland, Belgium, etc., and now we don’t even teach electronic technology for technicians any more, due to EU regulations.
I haven’t detailed our non-existent fishing industry the EU paid to destroy, nor the farmers being paid NOT to produce food they could sell for more than they get paid to do nothing, don’t even go there.
I haven’t mentioned what it costs us to be asset-stripped like this, nor have I mentioned immigration, nor the risk to our security if control of our armed forces is passed to Brussels or Germany.
Find something that’s gone the other way, I’ve looked and I just can’t.

There you have it; take a moment to let that sink in… ‘’

:open_mouth:

I’ll add one more if I may
Imperial Tobacco in Nottingham closed its last remaining UK manufacturing site in April 2016 after 127 years with the loss of over 500 well paid jobs
Production moved to Poland the main reasons for this were mostly down to EU meddling and sadly this caused Imperial Tobacco to rethink its UK manufacturing policy
The EU banned the sale of packets of 10s within the EU from 2017
Italy Ireland and the UK were the main markets for 10s
The manufacturing of 10s was 30% of Nottingham’s output
The EU banned the sale of any hand rolling tobacco pouches under the weight of 30g
So 12.5g and 25g pouches were banned
The manufacturing of hand rolling tobacco accounted for around 25% of Nottingham’s output
The EU banned the sale and manufacturing of Menthol cigarettes
This accounted for around 15% of
Nottingham’s output
The Nottingham factory was the most efficient out of the 58 factories Imperial Tobacco operated throughout the world
The remaining percentage of production was for exports beyond the EU

“We don’t teach electronics technology…because of EU regs”?
Which regs are they I wonder?

Michael Gove a staunch Brexiteer was talking about subsidising land owners AFTER we leave the EU.

Grants to relocate companies outside of the EU?
Really?
I find that incredible.

I know you said you didn’t fact check the post Juddian, but I’m almost speechless.

(Me quiet? Hard to believe I know :slight_smile: )

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Well said “Juddian and Gaz” But when will these misinformed Remainer Idiots realise that the UK will never make anything of the Krauts and Frogs who are backed up by the other odds and sods from around Europe, all the EU want from the UK is the substantial annual net contribution that is handed over and Oh! we do get a few crumbs thrown back to us as a gesture ! Big deal ! The quicker we tell the ■■■■■ at the EU to “stick it” where the monkey stuck the nuts the better ! and we walk away on the 29th March. This talk of “Crashing” out is just scaremongering by the Remainer Losers ! Bewick.

gazsa401:

Juddian:
Came across this post, i found it on another bloggers site, apparently it was a comment on John Redwood MP’s site but not JR’s words though, the author was a fine chap going by the name of Captain Peacock.

I haven’t fact checked it, see what you think :

‘’…its worth reading when you hear May talking about British jobs. This is what the EU is doing for Britain.

Cadbury moved factory to Poland 2011 with EU grant.
Ford Transit moved to Turkey 2013 with EU grant.
Jaguar Land Rover has recently agreed to build a new plant in Slovakia with EU grant, owned by Tata, the same company
Peugeot closed its Ryton (was Rootes Group) plant and moved production to Slovakia with EU grant.
British Army’s new Ajax fighting vehicles to be built in SPAIN using SWEDISH steel at the request of the EU to support jobs in Spain with EU grant, rather than Wales.
Dyson gone to Malaysia, with an EU loan.
Crown Closures, Bournemouth (Was METAL BOX), gone to Poland with EU grant, once employed 1,200.
M&S manufacturing gone to far east with EU loan.
Hornby models gone. In fact all toys and models now gone from UK along with the patents all with with EU grants.
Gillette gone to eastern Europe with EU grant.
Texas Instruments Greenock gone to Germany with EU grant.
Indesit at Bodelwyddan Wales gone with EU grant.
Sekisui Alveo said production at its Merthyr Tydfil Industrial Park foam plant will relocate production to Roermond in the Netherlands, with EU funding.
Hoover Merthyr factory moved out of UK to Czech Republic and the Far East by Italian company Candy with EU backing.
ICI integration into Holland’s AkzoNobel with EU bank loan and within days of the merger, several factories in the UK were closed eliminating 3,500 jobs.
Boots sold to Italians Stefano Pessina who have based their HQ in Switzerland using an EU loan for the purchase.
JDS Uniphase run by two Dutch men, bought up companies in the UK with £20 million in EU ‘regeneration’ grants, (with job losses and closures)
UK airports are owned by a Spanish company.
Scottish Power is owned by a Spanish company.
Most London buses are run by Spanish and German companies.
The Hinkley Point C nuclear power station to be built by French company EDF, part owned by the French government, using cheap Chinese steel that has catastrophically failed in other nuclear installations. Now EDF say the costs will be double or more and it will be very late even if it does come online.
Swindon was once our producer of rail locomotives and rolling stock. Not any more, it’s Bombardier in Derby and due to their losses in the aviation market, that could see the end of the British railways manufacturing altogether even though Bombardier had EU grants to keep Derby going which they diverted to their loss-making aviation side in Canada.
39% of British invention patents have been passed to foreign companies, many of them in the EU.
The Mini cars that Cameron stood in front of as an example of British engineering, are built by BMW mostly in Holland and Austria. His campaign bus was made in Germany even though we have Plaxton, Optare, Bluebird, Dennis etc., in the UK. The bicycle for the Greens was made in the far east, not by Raleigh UK but then they are probably going to move to the Netherlands too as they have said recently.
Anyone who thinks the EU is good for British industry or any other business simply hasn’t paid attention to what has been systematically asset-stripped from the UK. Name me one major technology company still running in the UK, I used to contract out to many, then the work just dried up as they were sold off to companies from France, Germany, Holland, Belgium, etc., and now we don’t even teach electronic technology for technicians any more, due to EU regulations.
I haven’t detailed our non-existent fishing industry the EU paid to destroy, nor the farmers being paid NOT to produce food they could sell for more than they get paid to do nothing, don’t even go there.
I haven’t mentioned what it costs us to be asset-stripped like this, nor have I mentioned immigration, nor the risk to our security if control of our armed forces is passed to Brussels or Germany.
Find something that’s gone the other way, I’ve looked and I just can’t.

There you have it; take a moment to let that sink in… ‘’

:open_mouth:

I’ll add one more if I may
Imperial Tobacco in Nottingham closed its last remaining UK manufacturing site in April 2016 after 127 years with the loss of over 500 well paid jobs
Production moved to Poland the main reasons for this were mostly down to EU meddling and sadly this caused Imperial Tobacco to rethink its UK manufacturing policy
The EU banned the sale of packets of 10s within the EU from 2017
Italy Ireland and the UK were the main markets for 10s
The manufacturing of 10s was 30% of Nottingham’s output
The EU banned the sale of any hand rolling tobacco pouches under the weight of 30g
So 12.5g and 25g pouches were banned
The manufacturing of hand rolling tobacco accounted for around 25% of Nottingham’s output
The EU banned the sale and manufacturing of Menthol cigarettes
This accounted for around 15% of
Nottingham’s output
The Nottingham factory was the most efficient out of the 58 factories Imperial Tobacco operated throughout the world
The remaining percentage of production was for exports beyond the EU

According to Tobacco manufacturers association in
1990 UK smoked 99 billion cigs.
2014 UK smoked 34 billion cigs.
Happen a falling market has a lot to do with closing down a UK factory, sat on a very valuable piece of real estate too?

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Watched TM today in the house telling all her vote will be in the second week in January even though she knows the probable outcome, calls from all over the house to have it this week and to cap it all JC has called for a motion of no confidence in the government and she was smirking as he announced that little nugget. We now have a prolonged period till January as TM is stringing the inevitable out, the only good thing I think is maybe we get so close to March the 29th nothing will be able to be done other than leaving with out any sort of deal, that would be great IMHO so lets hope that’s the outcome, what will we type about over Christmas and the New Year perhaps all on here can call a truce and have a football match just like they did in the old days, Buzzer.

PS. Who would be the referee though ?

Edited

whisperingsmith:
Let’s all start smoking again, burning coal to keep warm and not believing any of that EU BLcks about climate change, personal health & all the other non democratic issues voted on by our representatives someone else voted for in Sproutville.

EU climate change policy = let’s look after the French nuclear power industry.While turning a blind eye to the Germans preferring to stay with cheap safe coal rather than turning the Fatherland into another Chernobyl.Probably because,unlike its brainwashed followers,the unelected elites that run the show know that Sagan’s bs theory is based on the laughable pot smoking induced joke that Venus was cooked by CO2 and not the fact that it is 30 million miles closer to the Sun with an atmospheric pressure 90 x greater.

As for EU personal health policy.More like closing down the UK cigarette industry so that the market can be taken over by Polish,Dutch and German exports.Every little helps to pay for the EU’s oil and gas imports.

statista.com/statistics/3051 … -by-value/

Buzzer:
Watched TM today in the house telling all her vote will be in the second week in January even though she knows the probable outcome, calls from all over the house to have it this week and to cap it all JC has called for a motion of no confidence in the government and she was smirking as he announced that little nugget. We now have a prolonged period till January as TM is stringing the inevitable out, the only good thing I think is maybe we get so close to March the 29th nothing will be able to be done other than leaving with out any sort of deal, that would be great IMHO so lets hope that’s the outcome, what will we type about over Christmas and the New Year perhaps all on here can call a truce and have a football match just like they did in the old days, Buzzer.

PS. Who would be the referee though ?

I wonder how many posters will be here on Dec 25th, but off on Jan 7th?

:wink:

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Morning all,
Had this sent to me and well worth a read, I can not see a reason to not believe it.
Sorry its poor quality but best I could do. Harvey

Franglais:

gazsa401:

Juddian:
Came across this post, i found it on another bloggers site, apparently it was a comment on John Redwood MP’s site but not JR’s words though, the author was a fine chap going by the name of Captain Peacock.

I haven’t fact checked it, see what you think :

‘’…its worth reading when you hear May talking about British jobs. This is what the EU is doing for Britain.

Cadbury moved factory to Poland 2011 with EU grant.
Ford Transit moved to Turkey 2013 with EU grant.
Jaguar Land Rover has recently agreed to build a new plant in Slovakia with EU grant, owned by Tata, the same company
Peugeot closed its Ryton (was Rootes Group) plant and moved production to Slovakia with EU grant.
British Army’s new Ajax fighting vehicles to be built in SPAIN using SWEDISH steel at the request of the EU to support jobs in Spain with EU grant, rather than Wales.
Dyson gone to Malaysia, with an EU loan.
Crown Closures, Bournemouth (Was METAL BOX), gone to Poland with EU grant, once employed 1,200.
M&S manufacturing gone to far east with EU loan.
Hornby models gone. In fact all toys and models now gone from UK along with the patents all with with EU grants.
Gillette gone to eastern Europe with EU grant.
Texas Instruments Greenock gone to Germany with EU grant.
Indesit at Bodelwyddan Wales gone with EU grant.
Sekisui Alveo said production at its Merthyr Tydfil Industrial Park foam plant will relocate production to Roermond in the Netherlands, with EU funding.
Hoover Merthyr factory moved out of UK to Czech Republic and the Far East by Italian company Candy with EU backing.
ICI integration into Holland’s AkzoNobel with EU bank loan and within days of the merger, several factories in the UK were closed eliminating 3,500 jobs.
Boots sold to Italians Stefano Pessina who have based their HQ in Switzerland using an EU loan for the purchase.
JDS Uniphase run by two Dutch men, bought up companies in the UK with £20 million in EU ‘regeneration’ grants, (with job losses and closures)
UK airports are owned by a Spanish company.
Scottish Power is owned by a Spanish company.
Most London buses are run by Spanish and German companies.
The Hinkley Point C nuclear power station to be built by French company EDF, part owned by the French government, using cheap Chinese steel that has catastrophically failed in other nuclear installations. Now EDF say the costs will be double or more and it will be very late even if it does come online.
Swindon was once our producer of rail locomotives and rolling stock. Not any more, it’s Bombardier in Derby and due to their losses in the aviation market, that could see the end of the British railways manufacturing altogether even though Bombardier had EU grants to keep Derby going which they diverted to their loss-making aviation side in Canada.
39% of British invention patents have been passed to foreign companies, many of them in the EU.
The Mini cars that Cameron stood in front of as an example of British engineering, are built by BMW mostly in Holland and Austria. His campaign bus was made in Germany even though we have Plaxton, Optare, Bluebird, Dennis etc., in the UK. The bicycle for the Greens was made in the far east, not by Raleigh UK but then they are probably going to move to the Netherlands too as they have said recently.
Anyone who thinks the EU is good for British industry or any other business simply hasn’t paid attention to what has been systematically asset-stripped from the UK. Name me one major technology company still running in the UK, I used to contract out to many, then the work just dried up as they were sold off to companies from France, Germany, Holland, Belgium, etc., and now we don’t even teach electronic technology for technicians any more, due to EU regulations.
I haven’t detailed our non-existent fishing industry the EU paid to destroy, nor the farmers being paid NOT to produce food they could sell for more than they get paid to do nothing, don’t even go there.
I haven’t mentioned what it costs us to be asset-stripped like this, nor have I mentioned immigration, nor the risk to our security if control of our armed forces is passed to Brussels or Germany.
Find something that’s gone the other way, I’ve looked and I just can’t.

There you have it; take a moment to let that sink in… ‘’

:open_mouth:

I’ll add one more if I may
Imperial Tobacco in Nottingham closed its last remaining UK manufacturing site in April 2016 after 127 years with the loss of over 500 well paid jobs
Production moved to Poland the main reasons for this were mostly down to EU meddling and sadly this caused Imperial Tobacco to rethink its UK manufacturing policy
The EU banned the sale of packets of 10s within the EU from 2017
Italy Ireland and the UK were the main markets for 10s
The manufacturing of 10s was 30% of Nottingham’s output
The EU banned the sale of any hand rolling tobacco pouches under the weight of 30g
So 12.5g and 25g pouches were banned
The manufacturing of hand rolling tobacco accounted for around 25% of Nottingham’s output
The EU banned the sale and manufacturing of Menthol cigarettes
This accounted for around 15% of
Nottingham’s output
The Nottingham factory was the most efficient out of the 58 factories Imperial Tobacco operated throughout the world
The remaining percentage of production was for exports beyond the EU

According to Tobacco manufacturers association in
1990 UK smoked 99 billion cigs.
2014 UK smoked 34 billion cigs.
Happen a falling market has a lot to do with closing down a UK factory, sat on a very valuable piece of real estate too?

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It wasn’t Imperial Tobaccos decision to stop manufacturing 10 packs of cigarettes or menthol cigarettes or hand rolling tobacco under 30g
It was the EUs decision
The land you suggested as valuable 58 acres is industrial and not residential plus it was built on a former tip site where over the years subsistence has happened
The land was sold to Henry Boot for £10m
Ps I worked there for 13 years and have firsthand experience of meddling by the EU

gazsa401:
I worked there for 13 years and have firsthand experience of meddling by the EU

No surprise that ‘EU’ ‘meddling’ usually benefits ‘their’ industry at the expense of ‘ours’.

On that note we can at least help our cause by us unilaterally no longer recognising this country as being an EU member state as of June 2016.Nor the validity of the EU’s rule over us in it being nothing but a corrupt imposition on us by criminal treasonous factions who the Head of State should have been expected to sort out.Or for that matter the EU’s right to exist being a self appointed,but not even a declared de Jure,let alone internationally recognised de Facto,state.

gazsa401:

Franglais:

gazsa401:

Juddian:
Came across this post, i found it on another bloggers site, apparently it was a comment on John Redwood MP’s site but not JR’s words though, the author was a fine chap going by the name of Captain Peacock.

I haven’t fact checked it, see what you think :

‘’…its worth reading when you hear May talking about British jobs. This is what the EU is doing for Britain.

Cadbury moved factory to Poland 2011 with EU grant.
Ford Transit moved to Turkey 2013 with EU grant.
Jaguar Land Rover has recently agreed to build a new plant in Slovakia with EU grant, owned by Tata, the same company
Peugeot closed its Ryton (was Rootes Group) plant and moved production to Slovakia with EU grant.
British Army’s new Ajax fighting vehicles to be built in SPAIN using SWEDISH steel at the request of the EU to support jobs in Spain with EU grant, rather than Wales.
Dyson gone to Malaysia, with an EU loan.
Crown Closures, Bournemouth (Was METAL BOX), gone to Poland with EU grant, once employed 1,200.
M&S manufacturing gone to far east with EU loan.
Hornby models gone. In fact all toys and models now gone from UK along with the patents all with with EU grants.
Gillette gone to eastern Europe with EU grant.
Texas Instruments Greenock gone to Germany with EU grant.
Indesit at Bodelwyddan Wales gone with EU grant.
Sekisui Alveo said production at its Merthyr Tydfil Industrial Park foam plant will relocate production to Roermond in the Netherlands, with EU funding.
Hoover Merthyr factory moved out of UK to Czech Republic and the Far East by Italian company Candy with EU backing.
ICI integration into Holland’s AkzoNobel with EU bank loan and within days of the merger, several factories in the UK were closed eliminating 3,500 jobs.
Boots sold to Italians Stefano Pessina who have based their HQ in Switzerland using an EU loan for the purchase.
JDS Uniphase run by two Dutch men, bought up companies in the UK with £20 million in EU ‘regeneration’ grants, (with job losses and closures)
UK airports are owned by a Spanish company.
Scottish Power is owned by a Spanish company.
Most London buses are run by Spanish and German companies.
The Hinkley Point C nuclear power station to be built by French company EDF, part owned by the French government, using cheap Chinese steel that has catastrophically failed in other nuclear installations. Now EDF say the costs will be double or more and it will be very late even if it does come online.
Swindon was once our producer of rail locomotives and rolling stock. Not any more, it’s Bombardier in Derby and due to their losses in the aviation market, that could see the end of the British railways manufacturing altogether even though Bombardier had EU grants to keep Derby going which they diverted to their loss-making aviation side in Canada.
39% of British invention patents have been passed to foreign companies, many of them in the EU.
The Mini cars that Cameron stood in front of as an example of British engineering, are built by BMW mostly in Holland and Austria. His campaign bus was made in Germany even though we have Plaxton, Optare, Bluebird, Dennis etc., in the UK. The bicycle for the Greens was made in the far east, not by Raleigh UK but then they are probably going to move to the Netherlands too as they have said recently.
Anyone who thinks the EU is good for British industry or any other business simply hasn’t paid attention to what has been systematically asset-stripped from the UK. Name me one major technology company still running in the UK, I used to contract out to many, then the work just dried up as they were sold off to companies from France, Germany, Holland, Belgium, etc., and now we don’t even teach electronic technology for technicians any more, due to EU regulations.
I haven’t detailed our non-existent fishing industry the EU paid to destroy, nor the farmers being paid NOT to produce food they could sell for more than they get paid to do nothing, don’t even go there.
I haven’t mentioned what it costs us to be asset-stripped like this, nor have I mentioned immigration, nor the risk to our security if control of our armed forces is passed to Brussels or Germany.
Find something that’s gone the other way, I’ve looked and I just can’t.

There you have it; take a moment to let that sink in… ‘’

:open_mouth:

I’ll add one more if I may
Imperial Tobacco in Nottingham closed its last remaining UK manufacturing site in April 2016 after 127 years with the loss of over 500 well paid jobs
Production moved to Poland the main reasons for this were mostly down to EU meddling and sadly this caused Imperial Tobacco to rethink its UK manufacturing policy
The EU banned the sale of packets of 10s within the EU from 2017
Italy Ireland and the UK were the main markets for 10s
The manufacturing of 10s was 30% of Nottingham’s output
The EU banned the sale of any hand rolling tobacco pouches under the weight of 30g
So 12.5g and 25g pouches were banned
The manufacturing of hand rolling tobacco accounted for around 25% of Nottingham’s output
The EU banned the sale and manufacturing of Menthol cigarettes
This accounted for around 15% of
Nottingham’s output
The Nottingham factory was the most efficient out of the 58 factories Imperial Tobacco operated throughout the world
The remaining percentage of production was for exports beyond the EU

According to Tobacco manufacturers association in
1990 UK smoked 99 billion cigs.
2014 UK smoked 34 billion cigs.
Happen a falling market has a lot to do with closing down a UK factory, sat on a very valuable piece of real estate too?

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It wasn’t Imperial Tobaccos decision to stop manufacturing 10 packs of cigarettes or menthol cigarettes or hand rolling tobacco under 30g
It was the EUs decision
The land you suggested as valuable 58 acres is industrial and not residential plus it was built on a former tip site where over the years subsistence has happened
The land was sold to Henry Boot for £10m
Ps I worked there for 13 years and have firsthand experience of meddling by the EU

I won’t argue against any facts there. But since Mr Needham(?) of Imperial said the factory was closing because of over capacity in a falling market; and I’m confident that engineers are talented enough to enter packaging sizes, I think you’re accidentally making false connections.

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Franglais:
But since Mr Needham(?) of Imperial said the factory was closing because of over capacity in a falling market.

But obviously enough of a ‘market’ to carve up between the Poles,Dutch and the Germans and to make it worthwhile shipping the stuff here after closing down our own production.Remind us of the value of those combined EU ‘exports’ to us.There seems to be a pattern of Brit made profits invested in Europe then closing down production here to protect and justify the foreign investment.From Ford and GM in the 1970’s to others to date.Then the laughably named CBI ( actually CEI ) supports ongoing EU membership who would have thought it.

This seems to have gone under the radar…

petition.parliament.uk/petitions/229963

Handy map there if you are a funeral director

Shows where all the coffin dodgers supporting leave are :stuck_out_tongue: :stuck_out_tongue:

I showed that list of manufacturing companies lured away from Britain to a group of 18-19 year old college students today. Out of 23 students, only one previously had any real awareness of what had been happening to our industries. All of them were shocked to see the extent of the closures. These are kids who will be seeking work shortly in an area very badly hit by large-scale closure of manufacturing industries over the last four decades - textiles, glass, steel, coal etc. Just today we have heard that another major local employer, Asos, has announced profit warnings, and this is a modern on-line fashion retailing business. If it closes, not only will around 3,000 jobs be lost directly but a large transport and distribution network will also be affected. Obviously , none of those kids were old enough to vote in the referendum, and most said that they would probably have voted remain because they had never known life before the EU. Around half of them had recently taken some interest in Parliamentary proceedings on Brexit, and all of the group were very dismayed by the goings-on in government. Almost all of them said that, given the chance in any future referendum, they would vote for a no-deal exit. So it’s not just the “coffin dodgers” who want out.

> fodenway:
> another major local employer, Asos, has announced profit warnings, and this is a modern on-line fashion retailing business. If it closes, not only will around 3,000 jobs be lost directly but a large transport and distribution network will also be affected.

What has that got to do with the EU? sounds more like the bent cucumber scare :unamused:

What has that got to do with the EU? sounds more like the bent cucumber scare

Nothing directly, just another worry for those trying to find work in an area of high unemployment and under-investment. Ironically, the vast majority of those working there at present came from Eastern Europe to find work here.

gazsa401:
I’ll add one more if I may
Imperial Tobacco in Nottingham closed its last remaining UK manufacturing site in April 2016 after 127 years with the loss of over 500 well paid jobs
Production moved to Poland the main reasons for this were mostly down to EU meddling and sadly this caused Imperial Tobacco to rethink its UK manufacturing policy

I fail to see why Imperial would shift their factory from one EU country to another EU country ‘because of EU meddling’.

Perhaps they could see the writing on the wall and would rather operate inside the EU than outside it. Bigger customs free market.