The erf Sabrina that Len greens cut down from six wheel rigid, made a good tractor unit Gardner 6lw but the driver (Pete kitchen)made it fly with a short piece of chain to the rack bar it passed everything on the road,no one put the block on better than Pete,wished I had a pic of that when it flew past me,regards alan
PETE ALLARD-MORGAN:
RENÉE PILOT:
Foden S24 Sabrina TE6/20 Two Stroke Flat 6x2/6x4 Lorry,AWF 434B,a beautiful example of a classic and typical Foden S24 Sabrina lorry:-
RENÉE PILOT.
PETE
Dear me, am I getting old, …oh dear, all the years as a young man I endured in a (toiletesque), finished S34. S36, I never imagined them described as a “Sabrina”, …oh please spare this old man from the "knowledgable ", enthusiast!!!
Bewick:
Bassman:
Hi, All
Many thanks for the replies and info. Some great photo’s too. They were more popular then I realized.
BUT-- did the breweries ask ERF for a truck of which the Sabrina was the out come or, did ERF design it and then chase for a market for it.
I did wonder ,Dennis , if it was an attempt to keep all pots of a 8LXB under cover, but I might be wrong on that!!
I must admit that it had some graceful lines, and like a lot of other trucks, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Having said that I prefer the looks of the original “Sabrina” !Cheers Bassman
The “Sabrina” ERF disappeared long before the 8LXB came along “Bassman” and if they had fitted the 8LXB into one, half the engine would be under a bonnet inside the cab !! Cheers Dennis.
Oh Gawd, Im getting…no am old, and I cannot drive this b…y thing. Im being moved from my old office in the (former), pig styes, to a new (big), office in a cow shed. How was I sold this idea… a big shower, a wood burner, and a kitchen…Wow…but in the interim me and nay my records, and this electronic thing are in the workshop. Next to my old, (and now sadly rusting LB76), plus sundry casualties from our Potato Harvest…(that never was)!!!
So here I am…irratable, at over 70 one should have a peaceful life!! …Lousey day trying to open some ditches, dear white snow falling, (nothing like bma endures), but enough to put the local “yuppies” into fwd!!!
Then I read this S…T about Fodens described as Sabrinas…bl…y he… !!!What idiots now pretend they know anything about lorries!!!
ERFs had Sabrinas…Fodens had S18, S20, S21.then the S34S, S36s, etc …never,… oh never EVER,the Spaceship Sputnik, and all that stupid “pretend were a showman”… ■■■■!!!
You know nothing about Fodsen, how to buy them, how to run them, how to LOVE them, …so from me, (and I suspect many others), who have earned their living from them…go back to your kindergarden,!!!..boy you do upset this old Foden man.
Sorry Gentlemen…after a few Bollingers, ( and perhaps a Bush Mills chaser), this old “Meldrew” will retain his composure!!!
Maybe I have a tale or two, about Black Country Sabrinas…but only ERFs…(almost as good as a Foden, but sadly,…not quite)!!!
Salut mes Braves, Bon Nuit …Micky Mouse rules…(S21, to the “enthusiast”), Cheerio for now.
but bertone tock a look at it whendrawing the T scannies 
Foden SABRINA.
"tribsa » Thu Jan 17, 2013 9:36 pm
Renee
No Fodens were called Sabrina only ERFs"
Tribsa:You are trying to have me on 
"Lawrence Dunbar » Thu Jan 17, 2013 8:41 pm
Well where I live in Norhumberland this cab was allways refered to as The Cottage Loaf Cab, The S24 Tilt & the S36 Being the same shape appart from the front grill being fixed on the S24, Regards Larry."
Hello Lawrence.Yes.I know that,because you said exactly the same thing in reply to Sepo last year.But have I disputed this Foden The Cottage Loaf S24 cab with you? No I have not,because I am broadminded enough to accept that probably you and certain other people in your local area nicknamed the Foden S24 cab The Cottage Loaf Cab for whatever reason.
In the same way that other road haulage industry people in other local areas nicknamed the Foden S24 Sabrina,and the travelling fun fair people later on referred to the Foden S24,S30,S34,S36 and S39 cabs as Sabrina’s.
" Frankydobo » Thu Jan 17, 2013 10:17 pm
And in the third post down on the same page,he confirms yet again that Foden S24,S30,S34,S36 and S39 cabs were nicknamed Sabrina.
I can’t see why ‘all’ the cab types above would gain the nickname when they didn’t posess any Sabrina like attributes as the ERF cab did and if so many Foden cabs had the name why was it not more widely known, also the cabs quoted above were Sixties models, a decade after the famed Sabrina had gone from the publics thoughts. I still think the passage of time and memory have become confused over this. I’ve never read any accounts of the Foden being named as such. Franky."
If you carefully read my re-printed post,below,you will come across this:" the Foden Sabrina cab was not as bulbous as the ERF SF Sabrina,the front end of the Foden Sabrina cab was curved across the front of the cab and projected out from the windscreen - hence the Sabrina nickname! 
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Furthermore,the Foden S24,S30,S34,S36 and S39 cabs all had the same basic styling!
As for Saviem’s uncalled for outburst against me:The rule on this Forum is "Attack the post and not the poster,you have broken this rule. If you do not want to accept the historic and objective facts in regard to Foden S24,S30,S34,S36 and S39 Sabrina cabs,Foden S21 Spaceship Sputnik cabs,travelling fun fair people,my genuine love and knowledge of Foden Steam and Motor Vehicles,etc,that is your problem and not mine! And it appears as though you are trying to take your troubles out on me - it will never work - and you are totally wrong in every way…and…Sepo used the Foden Sabrina name over forty years since - that is an historic fact! :-
Sepo:
when growimg up this model was always remarked to as the Sabrina cab… ERF also used the name on one of there rigid models with a bonnet on.
RENÉE PILOT:
Foden Sabrina .Sepo:
when growimg up this model was always remarked to as the Sabrina cab… ERF also used the name on one of there rigid models with a bonnet on.The above quote is from the following thread,Foden Thoughts,from Sepo’s post,Wed Jul 04, 2012 10:12 pm,it’s the first post on page 19:-
viewtopic.php?f=35&t=77943&start=540And in the third post down on the same page,he confirms yet again that Foden S24,S30,S34,S36 and S39 cabs were nicknamed Sabrina.And in my posts on the same page,No.s 17 and 19,I fully explain the facts why Sabrina is a legitimate nickname for the Foden S24,S30,S34,S36 and S39 cabs.
As it’s been pointed out several times on the internet by several enthusiasts,including me,although the styling of the Foden Sabrina cab was not as bulbous as the ERF SF Sabrina,the front end of the Foden Sabrina cab was curved across the front of the cab and projected out from the windscreen - hence the Sabrina nickname!
The Foden Sabrina name started off in the road haulage industry in the 1960s-1970s and spread on to the fairgrounds,because many travelling showmen operated Foden S24,S30,S34,S36 and S39 Sabrina-cabbed lorries and many fairground people followed road transport people by naming these Foden’s Sabrina’s
The Foden Sabrina name is more universal on the fairgrounds (because of the close fraternity of fairground people) than in the road transport industry,it is almost certainly a local name used in certain parts of the United Kingdom.So it is not as well known as the Foden S21 Spaceship and Sputnik names,BUT,it’s already been pointed out many times on the internet,the internet is breaking down the information barriers,thus the Foden Sabrina nickname is now becoming well knownRENÉE PILOT.
RENÉE PILOT.
Rennee
We dont care you wont wind us up, you have your ideas & the rest of the world will have theirs ooo lala
Hi, All
Oh,Dear, I didn’t intend to start a continental dispute with my query but it has certainly brought a lot of unknown (to me) facts out of the woodwork.
I’ve never heard of a Foden Sabrina and looking at the pics. claiming to be a Foden Sabrina I don’t think ERF or Norma the original Sabrina have anything to worry about in the dimension stakes!!
Cheers Bassman
I have got to concur with my learned friends,Saviem,Larry et al ! I never ever heard of a Foden being tagged as a “Sabrina” and I used to come across a good number of Robson drivers on my travels throughout the UK in years gone by.The only comment I was familar with was that in order to drive one of those “cottage” loaf Fodens,Robson drivers had to have their necks fitted with a universal joint to enable them to look from under the upper cab and through the top of the windscreen,they would end up with a neck similar to that of a camel !! Cheers Dennis.
Down Saff London way it was common for the Foden to be called “Mickey Mouse” or “Sputnik” cabs only ERF made the “Sabrina” and as Bewick remarked the Foden driver would end up with a camel neck!you could always tell an old Paddy muckaway driver who had a Foden they always had a severe stoop as they walked to the pub of an evening. The “Big Lorry Blog” had photos of a “Sabrina” a while back again someone commented on “Foden Sabrinas” 
Bewick:
I have got to concur with my learned friends,Saviem,Larry et al ! I never ever heard of a Foden being tagged as a “Sabrina” and I used to come across a good number of Robson drivers on my travels throughout the UK in years gone by.The only comment I was familar with was that in order to drive one of those “cottage” loaf Fodens,Robson drivers had to have their necks fitted with a universal joint to enable them to look from under the upper cab and through the top of the windscreen,they would end up with a neck similar to that of a camel !! Cheers Dennis.
Foden SABRINA.
Yeah well,it’s the same old story:With respect,just because you and some other “Doubting Thomases” on this TruckNetUK Forum had never heard of the Foden Sabrina cab does not in fact mean that many other people have not heard of and/or used the Foden Sabrina name. Your argument is no argument,and you are being closed-minded and unreasonable,as are all the other Doubting Thomases" on the actual reality of the Foden S24,S30,S34,S36 and S39 Sabrina cabs.
For a start,TruckNetUK member,Sepo,independent of everybody else on this forum,and I will quote him yet again,said:-
Sepo used the Foden Sabrina name over forty years since - that is an historic fact! :-
Sepo wrote:
when growimg up this model was always remarked to as the Sabrina cab… ERF also used the name on one of there rigid models with a bonnet on.
What’s more I had not heard of the Cottage Loaf name for the Foden S24-style cabs until last year.And I did not dispute this name - but I could have! …because I am not a “Doubting Thomas”…in some repects at least.
Furthermore,here are some examples of facts,etc,that certain people (and some still don’t) never knew existed:-
1.British Leyland came out with Guy Greenlines and AEC Yellowlines in July 1970,but forty years on,well known lorry photographer,Peter Davies,had yet to learn of the Guy Greenline and AEC Yellowline names! It does not seem possiable that Peter Davies did not know about these names.But it was true.
2.There is a case of an AEC service engineer who did not know that AEC had made a V8 diesel engine! That is until one Friday night at the HCVS Gathering in Thornes Park,Wakefield,in the mid 1990s,when the conservation got around to the AEC 800 and 801 V8 diesel engines! This AEC engineer was really surprised!
3.A lot of people still do not know that ex-Beatle,Paul McCartney,is dead and that he’s been dead for well above forty years,yes,even after all that time people are still discovering THE PAUL IS DEAD RUMOUR -look it up on the internet
4.A lot of lorry enthusiasts will not have heard of the Waterfall Cab and the Mouth Organ Cab (I got this idea from Flickr ).And what company made these cabs?
Some of you will not have heard of these cab names,but they do exist! As does the Foden Sabrina name exists!
5.Lord Cherwell,one of Winston Churchill’s scientific advisers in World War Two,disputed the German V1 Flying Bomb and V2 Rocket Programmes,and because of his very misguided attitude,held back investigations on these matters for months.
Again,just because he did not believe these things were possiable,he thought that they did not exist - but he was proved wrong with a vengence - pardon the pun
As I say,it’s the same old story,but the Foden Sabrina name exists,and has existed for above forty years among certain road haulage people,showmen and lorry enthusiasts,and they are the facts.
So please be more reasonable and open minded
There are plenty of independent references to the Foden S24,S30,S34,S36 and S39 Sabrina cabs on the internet
RENÉE PILOT.
Off thread, but just thinking back we always called LAD cab Albions/Leylands “Paddy cabs” as they were the only drivers who could stand the noise&heat of those old beasts “the good old days?” but those guys were good old boys and up for a laugh & a joke + a few pints after work!!
“Mouth organ”= Leyland,“Don’t walk away Renee”(Four Tops 1966/67?) what a wind up mate 
Just casting my mind back Renee we had “Blueline” “Greenline” " Yellowline" and the never to be forgotten “Redline” ,Lairds,Boxers,Mastiffs,Terriers,FG’s & other crap!.All the AEC engineers I met mourned the demise of the V8 as it could HAVE been a great engine but was “starved out” by BL(anyone remember the old boy engineer from AEC always had a snuff box on him?) think he was replaced by a BL guy name of Bill Healy who was a real nice fella!
The only Foden that I have ever heard called SABRINA is the S21 (or Mickey Mouse/ Sputnik) cab on account of its bulbous front wings, we had some driver’s from the Staffs/Potteries area who called them that. Other than that I have never known a Foden cab have a nickname and I must have experienced most of them first hand.
Pete.
With regard to “Renee Pilot’s” extended blurb on Foden names,90% of what he say’s is “bollox” and therfore irellevent,yes,he’s right about the colour coding of the various British Leyland brands,I well remember the era! But as a haulier I only ever heard other hauliers/drivers refer to Mickey Mouse Fodens and occaisionally “Sputnics” but never “Sabrinas” !! What the Fairground fraternity called the various marques of motors they used,I’m not aware,as those lads have a language of their own and no doubt they had their own “in house” names known only to themselves.And as for the “spotters and enthusiasts” well those silly ■■■■■ will have their own,no doubt stupid,names for various motors! but as I have never inhabited their candy floss world I wouldn’t know what names they used.Look “RP” if you come onto this TN site spouting a load of bollox you must expect to be taken to task,don’t forget,some of these lads on here will have “rolled further backwards at traffic lights” than you have driven forwards,so don’t get your under garments all dishevelled by “taking a powder” it’s only harmless craic at the end of the day my Son !! Cheers Bewick.
Spoken like a true gent Dennis a haulier with a bit of no how, Regards Larry.
Been into lorries since I was a wee lad, drove them for a living and now at 71 still keen on them I get all the magazines every week/monthly modern and vintage and have built models of them since 1976 was around Fodens for a lot of them years and SPUTNICK, MICKEY MOUSE,was the only two names for FODENS never SABRINA that name was only ever used for the ERF with the bonnet. Eddie.
Very true Eddie, The S21 Mickey Mouse was a well designed cab with its curved design, The one we ran allways looked clean in the winter, Regards Larry.
Speaking on behalf of “those that know” we jointly and severally rest our case “Renee Pee” !! Cheers Bewick.