newmercman:
Eric, I did just that when the clutch broke up on my Transcon in Spain, it got me all the way home, including a poorly thought out journey through Paris in rush hour and embarking/disembarking a ferry, I even delivered the load before taking it in to get a new clutch fitted!
The only Daf I had with a Fuller was a 2800DKSE model, it had a 9spd and it needed a lot more gears IMHO. Still better than that awful ZF EcoSplit 16spd though. I hated that nasty notchy box with a passion, especially the slap over range change versions.
Hey Newmercman, here we had the DKSE first with the ZF16 but soon after with the RTO13 but for the first time with Daf with a knock through range change. One of the biggest disasters Daf made and for a too long time till the 95 came.
The DKSE was mostly overgeared too even worse with the ATI DKXE. The best was for me the economic geared at 1800 revs by 90/95 kph. But the economic ATI 's came standard as 1500 at ±90 a disaster high loaded and windy and you must stay in direct (11th Fuller or 15th ZF).
What I never did was using the high crawler,some did so because the gap between low and high range was a bit big.
If I now think after coming off big powered ones,and then starting with a DKSE at 40 tons on the hilly German and Ardennes routes it was hard.
Bye Eric,
@Eric: was this experience with Impens or Giraud?
By the way, I did request Mario Maes for the Gruwez ERF-B-series as 6x4 tractor, will succeed I hope 
Question, did DESOETE or WAGNER had experiences with ERF to your opinion?
Nice weekend,
A-J
Hey, here some which all know, and an outsider with ■■■■■■■■ A model who Ostend transport had a lot of them.
Cheers Eric,
ERF-Continental:
Good to remind us! Well, to avoid we get different threads for technical data or experiences, the result since
a lot of participants and promotors (like you Robert) did contribute with data and pictures is amazingly good!
Question: are there bells ringing when I say DAMCO/GG (Goedkoop&De Geus) or a subcontractor had ERF’s of
the NGC-series. I do KNOW as I frequently saw two of them moving ICI-chemicals (in steel high containers in
palletdimensions) from/towards Germany via Eindhoven towards Rotterdam/Botlek? Livery was blue with yellow
name of Damco GG, later absorbed into Nedlloyd-company. Regret I didn’t make pictures then, about 1980
Might these have been the two Groenenboom units I posted on page 10? Robert
@Eric (TIPTOP), nice memories, the White Road Xpeditor2…somewhere I should have a picture
while loading old ■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■ at Van Steenberge for ■■■■■■■ Reckon, this unit was of CDB!
Demeulemeester was unknown for me for White’s, nice and a real poids lourds in Flandres Ouest!!!
@Robert, no the livery was totally blu, perhaps white top/roof and with yellow text. Perhaps Wobbe
will know more, I saw two NGC’s together frequently, otherwise it might be some double ones, even
without me having a Chimay blue…
A-J
ERF-Continental:
@Eric: was this experience with Impens or Giraud?
By the way, I did request Mario Maes for the Gruwez ERF-B-series as 6x4 tractor, will succeed I hope
Question, did DESOETE or WAGNER had experiences with ERF to your opinion?
Nice weekend,
A-J
Hey ERF, Did you mean desoete of Slijpe who drives Scania and before MAN. Maybe Wagner could have had them.
But I have a big gab in my memories,because of nearly two decades driving over europe. And too Buzzy with my work and never made pics 
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No not with Impens but with as small haulier and Denecker cementliner Daf’s. In my last years i drove severel daf’s .
But the two shown here clocked up to 1.600.000 and The 2800 even nearly 2.500.000,all without big repairs and luckely all Fullered.
And Always loaded to 40/45tonnes.
I think mario can help you it’s a good chap.
Cheers Eric,
@Eric (tiptop):
DESOETE known for convoi exceptional like oversized metal panels (which are put on side-tipper-platform)
and because Gheysen&Verpoort of Lauwe/Menen supplied several special trailers and was a Scania-Vabis-
dealer appointed by Denonville since 1949…
Hope to input the Gruwez-picture (via indeed co-operative Mario Maes) over here. By the way: in Kortrijk
there was also a heavy-haulier Van Huyse…to be user of ■■■■■■■■■■■ I expect.
Well, be sober on the WestVleteren however you deserved one with your DAF-experience! I live 500metres
from the DAF-factory, however what comes from far…ERF…tastes better…
ERF-Continental:
@Eric (tiptop):
DESOETE known for convoi exceptional like oversized metal panels (which are put on side-tipper-platform)
and because Gheysen&Verpoort of Lauwe/Menen supplied several special trailers and was a Scania-Vabis-
dealer appointed by Denonville since 1949…
Hope to input the Gruwez-picture (via indeed co-operative Mario Maes) over here. By the way: in Kortrijk
there was also a heavy-haulier Van Huyse…to be user of ■■■■■■■■■■■ I expect.
Well, be sober on the WestVleteren however you deserved one with your DAF-experience! I live 500metres
from the DAF-factory, however what comes from far…ERF…tastes better…
Hey ERF, don’t you mean Dejager ( closed down now) in yellow and blue with lot’s of volvo’s insteed of Van huyse.
Desoete you mean is the one I meant.
And you had Cluyse too with orange Scania’s mostly driving for Bekaert,but sold now at Nieuwenhuyse with the orange Scania’s.
ERF is a bit the same as the OM,Foden,Autocar,White and some other you have to think and think to remember who has driven them.
Nearly all british were here after war even Miesse had a flirt with Atkninson.
Cheer Eric,
Good Sunday…don’t regard it as stupid or perhaps I missed something earlier (I re-read quite often) in this
thread…the John Simmons GEH makes me wonder if it has been converted at a certain moment. Perhaps
I overlook the low-bed-trailer having a single-front-support-tow-axle?
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@John:
To be crisp…:
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so Albert Dale bought it (as subby for Beresford) new as 4x2-tractor
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later (when sold) converted in 6x4 for wreckage-purposes,
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bought by John Simmons in 6x4-version for heavy haulage (see picture JS-A)
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converted back in 4x2 tractor stil in ‘service’ with John Simmons? (see picture JS-B)
Important for the register as well as a fact operators were (more) active in maintaining
and converting towards the ideal vehicle for their regular orderbook/customers.
Thank you John, to be no doubt continued or seconded once.
Good the dolly was invented though, a WW2-discovery brought
over by the Americans…while liberation? Somewhere I have a
nice picture of (an ex WW2) 6x4 Foden-drawbar, with a dolly
pulling a two-axle trailer, predecessor of roadtrains
Nice day, A-J
ERF-Continental:
Thank you John, to be no doubt continued or seconded once.
Good the dolly was invented though, a WW2-discovery brought
over by the Americans…while liberation? Somewhere I have a
nice picture of (an ex WW2) 6x4 Foden-drawbar, with a dolly
pulling a two-axle trailer, predecessor of roadtrains
Nice day, A-J
Yes, it’s always been a 4x2 tractors. And dollies have been around since the days of the horse and cart. Robert
ERF-Continental:
@John:
Important for the register as well as a fact operators were (more) active in maintaining
and converting towards the ideal vehicle for their regular orderbook/customers.
Don’t worry ERF-Continental, the register has had the correct information about this vehicle for the last two years! Robert 
@Robert, wow, that will do everything for my nights…was my number of 38 NGC’s comparable with yours?
@Robert: I know dollies were existing under/with carriages, but as a separate/sole piece of equipment
further developped by the USA with the turnpike doubles enabling multi-exchange of trailers.
ERF-Continental:
@Robert, wow, that will do everything for my nights…was my number of 38 NGC’s comparable with yours?
I’ll guess Wobbe will know more about the two NGC’s for Damco/GG?
Not sure I understand your question: what 38 NGCs?
I have all Wobbe’s info so the Damco ones remain a mystery for now.
Eventually I will get round to posting my register of nearly 70 NGCs but the list is tabulated and won’t transfer onto these blog pages so I may just have to print it off, get it scanned and post it as a jpg. Robert
@Robert: I will forward my (humble) listing by separate mail, not to confuse other and merely also because
I’ll respect your endeavours and hard work to obtain all this information much earlier…something went so
wrong with my previous input here, came not through as the highlight was nuts and bolts and 9-13-boxes.
My rough collection: 38NGC’s in NL, B, F and UK:
10 4x2 tractors in NL
10 4x2 tractors in B
01 4x2 truck in B
03 4x2 tractors in F
01 6x4 tractor in F
02 4x2 truck in F
10 4x2 tractors in UK
01 6x4 tractor in UK (double with 1 of Eykmans in B)
ERF-Continental:
@Robert: I will forward my (humble) listing by separate mail, not to confuse other and merely also because
I’ll respect your endeavours and hard work to obtain all this information much earlier…something went so
wrong with my previous input here, came not through as the highlight was nuts and bolts and 9-13-boxes.
My rough collection: 38NGC’s in NL, B, F and UK:
10 4x2 tractors in NL
10 4x2 tractors in B
01 4x2 truck in B
03 4x2 tractors in F
01 6x4 tractor in F
02 4x2 truck in F
10 4x2 tractors in UK
01 6x4 tractor in UK (double with 1 of Eykmans in B)
Hey ERF, as I see here that you mention 1 ERF lorry (camion) for belgium. could that be the one in the coulors of the Brussels show orange with on the side the letters ERF. such a one has long driven as a drawbar tipper,with Agricultural animal feed.
I saw him often in the region of Hainaut (henegouwen). The driver was not so young anymore and maybe retired with it.
It looked in let’ say the middle of the '80’s very well (newish for its age) It must be then about 10 jears old■■?
And weren’t there not more here with Vansteenbergen and Delcon and some here and there■■?
cheers Eric,
