Your listing is correct…with #124 to be the ex-schaap/könig as Jerry Cooke stated the ADR-bar for the batteries
and #126 could/should be the (previously but now abusively assumed exTwo-Speed) ex Berend Sjouw.
Meanwhile I emailed some people now that the origins are known on the Schaap/König and Willemstein/Damco GG.
Fingers crossed and hopefully some pictures will be available…for the facebook-chaps…a (son of Cees) Willemstein
is on facebook, however I don’t have an account hence no profile there.
Quite a big step forward thanks to René Postma!
ERF-Continental:
Your listing is correct…with #124 to be the ex-schaap/könig as Jerry Cooke stated the ADR-bar for the batteries
and #126 could/should be the (previously but now abusively assumed exTwo-Speed) ex Berend Sjouw.
Meanwhile I emailed some people now that the origins are known on the Schaap/König and Willemstein/Damco GG.
Fingers crossed and hopefully some pictures will be available…for the facebook-chaps…a (son of Cees) Willemstein
is on facebook, however I don’t have an account hence no profile there.
Quite a big step forward thanks to René Postma!
I agree: lots of progress today, thanks to Rene.
The ‘HT’ Wilhelminakade is Holland Terminal, Rotterdam (which I’m sure you know).
I agree that TA 124 is almost certainly ex-Schaap, and the ADR element gives us some evidence, but what if Calor had another NGC registered on the other side of the Channel? We cannot be certain.
With TA 126 and the Barend Sjouw unit we really only have the plastic visor to go on and I don’t think that’s enough evidence.
Onward and upward! Robert
Incidentally, the picture at the top of page 34 in Lorries of Arabia was taken by Rene Postma in his yard. Reprints of the book will attribute the picture to him. And the new book will carry further pictures taken by Rene during his vital custody of 7DF 44 before it became KCH 95N. Robert
I did throw some fishing-angles in the pond…to find out more on the remaining chassis from Damco GG.
We need to search for ADR-operators as ICI-transport from/to UK and Germany was on hazardous materials.
Pitty that René Postma (not Potsma) furnished more information though. I received a PM from him without
any content this weekend. By the way, Willem Willemstein proceeded transport-business from his father Cees
but unfortunately experienced some cases of bankruptcy.
ERF-Continental:
I did throw some fishing-angles in the pond…to find out more on the remaining chassis from Damco GG.
We need to search for ADR-operators as ICI-transport from/to UK and Germany was on hazardous materials.
Pitty that René Postma (not Potsma) furnished more information though. I received a PM from him without
any content this weekend. By the way, Willem Willemstein proceeded transport-business from his father Cees
but unfortunately experienced some cases of bankruptcy.
I would gently point out that far from being a pity (not pitty) that Rene furnished us with more information, it was a blessing - and most useful! I would also point out that we should be grateful to Willem Willemstein for furnishing us with yet more useful information (via Rene via me) and that gossip about his financial standing has no relevance to this discussion. Robert
What’s wrong with a bankruptcy? When your major customers experience difficulties (decline of activities/sales)
also you will face that…it’s a bit of a culture nowadays to close your books …it’s hard to gain the trust of
your (former) suppliers (fuel, lorries, tyres, and not to forget employees) but some manage to proceed again.
Good news on Damco GG (NGC and B) as well as Wagner from Gosselies/Jumet (B) is coming
Interesting that so few NGCs sported those twin breather-pipes up the back of the cab, when so many of them did Middle-East work. Only six that I can find had them, as follows:
GEH 513N
JLG 35N
KFH 248P
KFH 249P
KFH 250P
KFH 251P
I wonder if the pipes tilted with the cab.
Robert
Hi Robert I came across these on F/B so I have borrowed them in case they have not been posted on here as I know most have but if you leave it they may have gone or can’t find them 
cheers Johnnie 
Cheers, mate! Glad people are still keeping their eyes peeled, as FB is becoming a good source for these pics.
I suspect that Calor Transport had more than one of these NGCs but this is the only one we know about at the moment.
Robert
You may remember this mystery French NGC I posted near the beginning of the thread:
Well, Rene found another pic on the internet that shows the mystery ‘white and orange’ French unit to be 7601RR91. Perhaps someone recognises the livery and can identify the company. Here it is:
Robert
mandator:
just seen on Facebook: facebook.com/groups/sjonnodebruyn/
Dutch ERF
Brilliant find, Mandator! Thank you. Could this be the missing Damco / De Geus vehicle to which A-J (ERF-continental) refers? Notice that it has a blank ADR Haz-plate mounted on the grille. This could be the picture we’ve been looking for - over to you A-J to confirm. Robert
I am assured from a reliable Dutch source that this vehicle is the unit operated by Ben Schaap. Robert
Following a superb weekend at Gaydon with a number of ex-NGC drivers and fitters I have been able to put the finishing touches to Book 2 which goes to the publisher this week and should be out in march. It is astonishing how many people who drove them or worked on them tell me how utterly reliable they were. An Eric Vick driver who did Middle-East for five years with an NGC reports that it only suffered one minor repair for the whole five years - it just never broke down.
Here are some observations accruing from my recent explorations:
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NFH 120P had an NTC 290 with a 13-speed Fuller. We already knew that the other five had the 335 / 9-speed combo.
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Patrick W Dyer’s new book, ERF B, C, CP & E-series has a single page dedicated to the NGC in the intro, with a good caption.
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I found a Commercial Motor 25th April 1975, which has a full page advert for the ERF NGC
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I found a Commercial Motor 9th May 1975, which has a table of British tractive units including the ERF NGC
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We have a new item to add to the register because an ERF NGC demonstration unit was sent to S Jones for an exhibition of equipment, and it was written off in an accident on the way
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No NGCs appear to have done North Africa work now that we know that Eric Vick didn’t go there (it was CW Vick that did the Lister contract to Morocco)
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The breather pipes braced to the rear of the cab of six NGCs (mentioned a couple of posts ago) did indeed tilt with the cab
All the rest of the news is in the book!
Robert
Gary Corbishley with son Matthew at Gaydon today. Robert
Interesting picture here of TA 126 posted by ‘Ronhawk’ on the Trans Arabia thread. Robert
