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False alarm! I’ve removed the 7th Van Steenbergen NGC from my register. We do experience these little false alarms from time to time 
Robert
Put it as reserve as we both know #28 and #31 were the same, due to tax-registration, the plate did not change.
I expect confirmation with pictures on the (at least) two NGCs for Damco GG and also some on Jemappes-transport
out of the region Mons (Bergen) the south-west of Belgium not far from the French border.
I have been in further contact with Marc Van Steenbergen and been able to secure new pics and information for the new book. One of the details was that they found that the early NGCs (bearing in mind that they took the first one!) suffered from weak windscreen wipers that were apt to break down, until ERF beefed up the triple wiper mechanism.
Thanks to Geoff Luther (who posted pics of KRH 153P on the Poole thread) I have since spoken to another of its former drivers, Bob Jarrett, who described this unit as being ‘a bit of beast’! At some time in its life it had been fitted with a ■■■■■■■ 35O from a heavy plant machine, a back-to-front 13-speed Fuller ‘box and the rear differential from a coach, giving it phenomenal speed on the straight but taking away its advantage on the hills.
Robert
Evening all,
Now I will preface this with a caviat…The following may be subject to verification!
Early 90s there was a European visible, and parked in a farm, south of Aberwystwyth, close by LLanrhusted. Our Daughter , who was taking Agriculture at Aberwystwyth wrote to us mentioning this…she knew her lorries!
The nice chap who drove the National Express Coach, (Birmingham, via Telford, to Aberwystwyth, confirmed this also. Apparantly the Engine had been removed, and reputed to have been fitted with an ex Crane carrier ■■■■■■■ 350.
Suddenly remembered this as I was lifting a steel beam with the old Hy Mac tonight…
Cheerio for now.
Saviem:
Evening all,Now I will preface this with a caviat…The following may be subject to verification!
Early 90s there was a European visible, and parked in a farm, south of Aberwystwyth, close by LLanrhusted. Our Daughter , who was taking Agriculture at Aberwystwyth wrote to us mentioning this…she knew her lorries!
The nice chap who drove the National Express Coach, (Birmingham, via Telford, to Aberwystwyth, confirmed this also. Apparantly the Engine had been removed, and reputed to have been fitted with an ex Crane carrier ■■■■■■■ 350.
Suddenly remembered this as I was lifting a steel beam with the old Hy Mac tonight…
Cheerio for now.
Thank you Saviem! I don’t suppose the National coach driver offered his diff to the venture! I’ll store that little nugget for a rainy day. 
Robert
Not an ERF NGC but still an example of the ICI-transport between UK and Germany which also has been
done with (at least) two NGCs of the same company. Still awaiting the pictures of the NGCs
tiptop495:
hey to all, It’s Gruwez it’s the old yard on the way Bruges - Sluis( NL),but new or old it looked Always like a scrapyard at Gruwez. They had some Krupps with ■■■■■■■ too.
In Belgium the numberplates belong to the owner,but if he gives his company an other name then it changes. And today lost or stolen and you never get your number back. Other sended in number are given out again.
In the '70’s we got the 6 numbers/letters,so if it was still the first owner of the numberplate,you could consider the building year of it. Like the ERF if you could see the first letter e.g. a B it must be a '74.Bye Eric,
Allthough not confirmed officially yet, I have a strong feeling the registration is BER.248 for the Gruwez ERF-NGC, as by 1974 the Autocar
DC9364B (registrations remain with the company) might have been replaced by the ERF.
ERF-Continental:
tiptop495:
hey to all, It’s Gruwez it’s the old yard on the way Bruges - Sluis( NL),but new or old it looked Always like a scrapyard at Gruwez. They had some Krupps with ■■■■■■■ too.
In Belgium the numberplates belong to the owner,but if he gives his company an other name then it changes. And today lost or stolen and you never get your number back. Other sended in number are given out again.
In the '70’s we got the 6 numbers/letters,so if it was still the first owner of the numberplate,you could consider the building year of it. Like the ERF if you could see the first letter e.g. a B it must be a '74.Bye Eric,
Allthough not confirmed officially yet, I have a strong feeling the registration is BER.248 for the Gruwez ERF-NGC, as by 1974 the Autocar
DC9364B (registrations remain with the company) might have been replaced by the ERF.
That’s good news. I now have some pictures from Gruwez but none shows the number plate! I’ll try to find out from the company. Robert
Just a question or remark…why the NTC335 should be replaced by a NTE350?
ERF-Continental:
Just a question or remark…why the NTC335 should be replaced by a NTE350?
■■■■ Pountain replaced the 335 in his beast with a 350 too. Engine replacements are sometimes the result of engine failure rather than the ■■■■ for more power, notwithstanding which it might nonetheless be interesting to know the reason in this case. Robert
robert1952:
ERF-Continental:
Just a question or remark…why the NTC335 should be replaced by a NTE350?■■■■ Pountain replaced the 335 in his beast with a 350 too. Engine replacements are sometimes the result of engine failure rather than the ■■■■ for more power, notwithstanding which it might nonetheless be interesting to know the reason in this case. Robert
Assuming that’s a big cam option I’d guess that would be more ‘efficient’ than the older 335.IE the gain in power,or more importantly torque,is just part of the equation. 
Carryfast:
robert1952:
ERF-Continental:
Just a question or remark…why the NTC335 should be replaced by a NTE350?■■■■ Pountain replaced the 335 in his beast with a 350 too. Engine replacements are sometimes the result of engine failure rather than the ■■■■ for more power, notwithstanding which it might nonetheless be interesting to know the reason in this case. Robert
Assuming that’s a big cam option I’d guess that would be more ‘efficient’ than the older 335.IE the gain in power,or more importantly torque,is just part of the equation.
You are right, I think, CF. However it should be remembered that there was a small cam 350 that was simply a 335 with an after-cooler! Robert
Evening all,
Robert, here is a bit of a bone for you to search out, and as you have a grasp of Flemish/Dutch, could be of interest to you.
When Pat and Andrew Frankl began to syndicate the idea of the “Eurotest”, one of the first to take it up was Jan Poels, then Editor of the Dutch Haulage Trade magazine " Berops Vervoer" based at Rijseijk.
His strategy was to combine the various groupings, and then publish as a consolidated group, and to be frank it made for easier reading, and comparison.
The ERF Continental, et al, were in the December `78 edition, along with the Marathon, and out SM340. Really is worth a look, (maybe that Tip Top, and ERF Continental may be able to help out).
Personally I found it as good a magazine as Commercial Motor, for reference,( although my copies are long gone to land fil)l! Came to me today as I was moving a rather large pre cast concrete lintol…whilst keeping an eye on the Wheats changing colour…(.I can never work out how my brain works, if it does)!!!
Cheerio for now.
Saviem:
Evening all,Robert, here is a bit of a bone for you to search out, and as you have a grasp of Flemish/Dutch, could be of interest to you.
When Pat and Andrew Frankl began to syndicate the idea of the “Eurotest”, one of the first to take it up was Jan Poels, then Editor of the Dutch Haulage Trade magazine " Berops Vervoer" based at Rijseijk.
His strategy was to combine the various groupings, and then publish as a consolidated group, and to be frank it made for easier reading, and comparison.
The ERF Continental, et al, were in the December `78 edition, along with the Marathon, and out SM340. Really is worth a look, (maybe that Tip Top, and ERF Continental may be able to help out).
Personally I found it as good a magazine as Commercial Motor, for reference,( although my copies are long gone to land fil)l! Came to me today as I was moving a rather large pre cast concrete lintol…whil
st keeping an eye on the Wheats changing colour…(.I can never work out how my brain works, if it does)!!!Cheerio for now.
A fantastic clue, Saviem - thank you. We’ll all be onto the case immediately!
Cheers, Robert 
robert1952:
Saviem:
Evening all,Robert, here is a bit of a bone for you to search out, and as you have a grasp of Flemish/Dutch, could be of interest to you.
When Pat and Andrew Frankl began to syndicate the idea of the “Eurotest”, one of the first to take it up was Jan Poels, then Editor of the Dutch Haulage Trade magazine " Berops Vervoer" based at Rijseijk.
His strategy was to combine the various groupings, and then publish as a consolidated group, and to be frank it made for easier reading, and comparison.
The ERF Continental, et al, were in the December `78 edition, along with the Marathon, and out SM340. Really is worth a look, (maybe that Tip Top, and ERF Continental may be able to help out).
Personally I found it as good a magazine as Commercial Motor, for reference,( although my copies are long gone to land fil)l! Came to me today as I was moving a rather large pre cast concrete lintol…whil
st keeping an eye on the Wheats changing colour…(.I can never work out how my brain works, if it does)!!!Cheerio for now.
A fantastic clue, Saviem - thank you. We’ll all be onto the case immediately!
Cheers, Robert
TNUK member JWK has old copies of Beroepsvervoer.
I last night wrote a mail to Jos Poels as well as some collectioneurs possibly having archived “Beroepsvervoer”
from NOB Wegtransport. I don’t have these magazines as NOB Wegtransport distributed “Beroepsvervoer” (as
well as PCB with their magazine “Wegvervoer”) to members of these organisations. Jos Poels was the chief-
editor (and PR-manager) for NOB Wegtransport. Later in 1992 NOB Wegtransport and PCB merged, from that
time a new magazine “Transport en Logistiek” came alive. I was most of the time member of EVO (Eigen Ver-
lader/Vervoerder Organisatie), centralizing members of industry with own transport like DAF and Philips.
ERF-Continental:
I last night wrote a mail to Jos Poels as well as some collectioneurs possibly having archived “Beroepsvervoer”
from NOB Wegtransport. I don’t have these magazines as NOB Wegtransport distributed “Beroepsvervoer” (as
well as PCB with their magazine “Wegvervoer”) to members of these organisations. Jos Poels was the chief-
editor (and PR-manager) for NOB Wegtransport. Later in 1992 NOB Wegtransport and PCB merged, from that
time a new magazine “Transport en Logistiek” came alive. I was most of the time member of EVO (Eigen Ver-
lader/Vervoerder Organisatie), centralizing members of industry with own transport like DAF and Philips.
Good homework! Remember it’s the December 1978 issue we’re after. Robert
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anorak:robert1952:
Saviem:
Evening all,Robert, here is a bit of a bone for you to search out, and as you have a grasp of Flemish/Dutch, could be of interest to you.
When Pat and Andrew Frankl began to syndicate the idea of the “Eurotest”, one of the first to take it up was Jan Poels, then Editor of the Dutch Haulage Trade magazine " Berops Vervoer" based at Rijseijk.
His strategy was to combine the various groupings, and then publish as a consolidated group, and to be frank it made for easier reading, and comparison.
The ERF Continental, et al, were in the December `78 edition, along with the Marathon, and out SM340. Really is worth a look, (maybe that Tip Top, and ERF Continental may be able to help out).
Personally I found it as good a magazine as Commercial Motor, for reference,( although my copies are long gone to land fil)l! Came to me today as I was moving a rather large pre cast concrete lintol…whil
st keeping an eye on the Wheats changing colour…(.I can never work out how my brain works, if it does)!!!Cheerio for now.
A fantastic clue, Saviem - thank you. We’ll all be onto the case immediately!
Cheers, Robert
TNUK member JWK has old copies of Beroepsvervoer.
Thanks Anorak, I’ve just PM’d him. Fingers crossed!! Robert
It appears that Read / Vijore NGCs registered NFH 120P and KFH 250P ended their days in the ‘graveyard’ on Richard Read’s premises: I have been supplied with a fabulous photo for the new book, showing them both, minus some wheels and parts languishing among the scrap. Robert
Hiya…Robert would you look on the Mack page please…look at the bottom of the last page. there,s a very interesting
Motorpanels cab along side of a Mack both are blue and gray in colour.it seems the belong to they same company.the cab
looks as high as high as the 7mw
John