Mike-C:
If these ERF’s are so good, how come they don’t make 'em anymore?
Because they were too good ofcourse!!
Why else? 
Mike-C:
If these ERF’s are so good, how come they don’t make 'em anymore?
Because the modern driver cannot drive them, but you shouldn’t knock them, we don’t build Spitfire or Concorde anymore but it was still one of the finest aeroplanes in the skies.
Name another successful independent truck maker.
Even Mercedes Benz are owned by an conglomeration of overseas and private investors
Volvo are linked to Renault.
Scania are linked to MAN through VAG
DAF, Foden with Leyland and Kenworth, Peterbuilt form Paccar
ERF are linked to MAN.
Even in the car world the most successful manufacturers have had to join forces. ERF Trucks was never a basket case like BL or Rover. They needed more investment and R&D which MAN had in abundance.
Wheel Nut:
Mike-C:
If these ERF’s are so good, how come they don’t make 'em anymore?Because the modern driver cannot drive them, but you shouldn’t knock them, we don’t build Spitfire or Concorde anymore but it was still one of the finest aeroplanes in the skies.
Name another successful independent truck maker.
Even Mercedes Benz are owned by an conglomeration of overseas and private investors
Volvo are linked to Renault.
Scania are linked to MAN through VAG
DAF, Foden with Leyland and Kenworth, Peterbuilt form Paccar
ERF are linked to MAN.
Even in the car world the most successful manufacturers have had to join forces. ERF Trucks was never a basket case like BL or Rover. They needed more investment and R&D which MAN had in abundance.
Sometimes those modern drivers can still drive them.This seems to be driven by someone who might be around the age of that idiot Super Smiley?.It’s a real truck not one of those modern electric automated wagons which need a lobotomy to drive them.And turn up the volume.
didnt man decide to stop making erf’s because all the erf’s after after the buy out were mans in disguise, was the same when paccar bought foden, they bought it and made them into daf clones
Carryfast:
Wheel Nut:
Mike-C:
If these ERF’s are so good, how come they don’t make 'em anymore?Because the modern driver cannot drive them, but you shouldn’t knock them, we don’t build Spitfire or Concorde anymore but it was still one of the finest aeroplanes in the skies.
Name another successful independent truck maker.
Even Mercedes Benz are owned by an conglomeration of overseas and private investors
Volvo are linked to Renault.
Scania are linked to MAN through VAG
DAF, Foden with Leyland and Kenworth, Peterbuilt form Paccar
ERF are linked to MAN.
Even in the car world the most successful manufacturers have had to join forces. ERF Trucks was never a basket case like BL or Rover. They needed more investment and R&D which MAN had in abundance.
Sometimes those modern drivers can still drive them.This seems to be driven by someone who might be around the age of that idiot Super Smiley?.It’s a real truck not one of those modern electric automated wagons which need a lobotomy to drive them.And turn up the volume.
I can drive an eaton twinsplit and i’m 21, beed driving them since i was 18 (on the young driver scheme for all the smart arses who say i cant have) they are far far far betting than the zf in modern dafs erfs ivecos etc. give me a twinsplit anyday!!!
Eveyone should try one your left leg will thank you if you are good with them. only need the clutch to start off 
8 legger:
I can drive an eaton twinsplit and i’m 21, beed driving them since i was 18 (on the young driver scheme for all the smart arses who say i cant have) they are far far far betting than the zf in modern dafs erfs ivecos etc. give me a twinsplit anyday!!!Eveyone should try one your left leg will thank you if you are good with them. only need the clutch to start off
Good Man, and you are exactly right, far far far better.
Without the twin splitter there would be no automatics gearboxes in modern trucks. The infamous Scania tried to build an auto box in the early 80’s, it was an abject failure.
ERF and Eaton Fuller persevered with the RTO 11609 & 11613 until they had the Twin Splitter and SAMT gearbox.
The rest were born from it. a lightweight auto that is simple to use
Wheel Nut:
8 legger:
I can drive an eaton twinsplit and i’m 21, beed driving them since i was 18 (on the young driver scheme for all the smart arses who say i cant have) they are far far far betting than the zf in modern dafs erfs ivecos etc. give me a twinsplit anyday!!!Eveyone should try one your left leg will thank you if you are good with them. only need the clutch to start off
Good Man, and you are exactly right, far far far better.
Without the twin splitter there would be no automatics gearboxes in modern trucks. The infamous Scania tried to build an auto box in the early 80’s, it was an abject failure.
ERF and Eaton Fuller persevered with the RTO 11609 & 11613 until they had the Twin Splitter and SAMT gearbox.
The rest were born from it. a lightweight auto that is simple to use
Or there’s always the lightweight,simple to produce and maintain,strong,and relatively cheap good old fashioned 13 and 18 speed ordinary range change and splitter manual one.Which will still let you give your left leg a rest or use the clutch if you feel like it.But only the yanks seem to be lucky enough to still be using them in large numbers now.
before i offer my tuppence worth can i just say DAF IS BETTER THAN SCANIA…FACT. 
I think supersmiley,if you actually are a driver,your problems start from being spoilt from the off.im not as old as some of the guys who were driving the likes of aec"s,big guy j"s and stuff,but i have driven some poorly equipped (by todays standards) trucks in my time,and never moaned.my first tramping truck was a 7 year old half cabbed merc drawbar transporter with no storage,windy windows,radio with no cd or tape deck.BUT i loved it because it was MY truck.even up until 3-4 years ago i was still dreaming about air con and cd player,but it doesnt bother me if it didnt have them.i have a job to do,and that comes first,to put food on the table.im not bothered what i drive,as long as it doesnt break down and cost me money,could be the oldest,poorly equipped truck,as long as im making the money.
SuperSmiley:
Listen you old fools…shut-up about how it was whatever millennium …Too me anyone who drove in those days was an idiot…Why the hell would you want a job driving around in some super basic truck…with nothing but a steering wheel and handbrake…Sleeping in a tin…in minus conditions…not even a something proper to lay on…I doubt the designers in them days…done test trials…themselves…in such conditions…“Nah these drivers are idiots…anything will do”…
That’s is why so many “Ruffty-Tuffty” drivers are completely knackered now…This wrong with them and that wrong with them…I ain’t going down that path…when i’m a old man…I’m still going to be in my prime…
To be fair though…I am grateful to the idiots…they help keep the nation running…and brought the cereal to my kitchen…in my nice warm house…AAArrrhhhh
As i see from some of your pics…I must make it clear…I’m only refering to the latest style Scania’s…55 plate onwards…the older type…are unacceptable to standards [zb]…(and some even come with wind-up windows
The new style has only two major faults…Traction Control…and take off speed…beyond that…minus a few minor faults they are spot on…The only other truck that offers possible competion is the Actros…(new style)…everything else is just second rate…but as you lot are Ruffty…Tuffty’s you just won’t understand these matters…any ERF trash will do for you lot…BUMS
this is called “evolution”,probably in 30 0dd years time,the super spolit youngsters will call you mad for daring to drive a specced up scanny with electric everything,and luxury now is different from luxury 30 years ago.one thing is for sure though,the reason those “rufty tufty” drivers are knackered now is because age has caught up with them,exactly like it will you.
buck rogers:
before i offer my tuppence worth can i just say DAF IS BETTER THAN SCANIA…FACT.
I think supersmiley,if you actually are a driver,your problems start from being spoilt from the off.im not as old as some of the guys who were driving the likes of aec"s,big guy j"s and stuff,but i have driven some poorly equipped (by todays standards) trucks in my time,and never moaned.my first tramping truck was a 7 year old half cabbed merc drawbar transporter with no storage,windy windows,radio with no cd or tape deck.BUT i loved it because it was MY truck.even up until 3-4 years ago i was still dreaming about air con and cd player,but it doesnt bother me if it didnt have them.i have a job to do,and that comes first,to put food on the table.im not bothered what i drive,as long as it doesnt break down and cost me money,could be the oldest,poorly equipped truck,as long as im making the money.SuperSmiley:
Listen you old fools…shut-up about how it was whatever millennium …Too me anyone who drove in those days was an idiot…Why the hell would you want a job driving around in some super basic truck…with nothing but a steering wheel and handbrake…Sleeping in a tin…in minus conditions…not even a something proper to lay on…I doubt the designers in them days…done test trials…themselves…in such conditions…“Nah these drivers are idiots…anything will do”…
That’s is why so many “Ruffty-Tuffty” drivers are completely knackered now…This wrong with them and that wrong with them…I ain’t going down that path…when i’m a old man…I’m still going to be in my prime…
To be fair though…I am grateful to the idiots…they help keep the nation running…and brought the cereal to my kitchen…in my nice warm house…AAArrrhhhhAs i see from some of your pics…I must make it clear…I’m only refering to the latest style Scania’s…55 plate onwards…the older type…are unacceptable to standards [zb]…(and some even come with wind-up windows
The new style has only two major faults…Traction Control…and take off speed…beyond that…minus a few minor faults they are spot on…The only other truck that offers possible competion is the Actros…(new style)…everything else is just second rate…but as you lot are Ruffty…Tuffty’s you just won’t understand these matters…any ERF trash will do for you lot…BUMSthis is called “evolution”,probably in 30 0dd years time,the super spolit youngsters will call you mad for daring to drive a specced up scanny with electric everything,and luxury now is different from luxury 30 years ago.one thing is for sure though,the reason those “rufty tufty” drivers are knackered now is because age has caught up with them,exactly like it will you.
I’m 51 and age has’nt caught up with me yet.I’d actually still be happy driving some of the wagons of the spec available when I started out in 1980.I reckon that they were better than what followed in the 1990’s and I’d prefer a decent older yank wagon today over a modern Scania or DAF.Especially with that V12 Detroit in it and a 13 speed fuller and it would’nt need a speed limiter either.
Carryfast:
Wheel Nut:
ERF and Eaton Fuller persevered with the RTO 11609 & 11613 until they had the Twin Splitter and SAMT gearbox.The rest were born from it. a lightweight auto that is simple to use
Or there’s always the lightweight,simple to produce and maintain,strong,and relatively cheap good old fashioned 13 and 18 speed ordinary range change and splitter manual one.Which will still let you give your left leg a rest or use the clutch if you feel like it.But only the yanks seem to be lucky enough to still be using them in large numbers now.
Which is exactly the same gearbox I mentioned, although you call it an old fashioned 13 and 18 speed ordinary range change and splitter manual one. I called it a Fuller RTO 11613
With such a quick shifting gearbox as a 9 speed Fuller I probably found the need for a splitter necessary when gross weights increased to 40 tonnes in Europe & 38 tonne in the UK, but never did and still don’t understand why the Yanks needed 18 gears to pull a taj over 36 tonne with 600 horses.
This ■■■■■■’s just a wind up merchant banker. I’m afraid that you’ve all fallen for his childish post. It’s painfully obvious that he doesn’t have a clue, and can’t even type properly, so why bother responding. ? I’ve driven new stuff and old stuff, ropes, sheets, chains, etc, and because of that experience, I know this clown is out of his depth. Am I annoyed. ? NO. I only feel sorry for him and think he should just go back to sucking his Mum’s ■■■.
peterm:
This ■■■■■■’s just a wind up merchant banker. I’m afraid that you’ve all fallen for his childish post
You mean a troll looking for a reaction? Four pages so he’s achieved his objective.
See these young un’s cant handle a bit of thinking behind the wheel. As far as they are concerned a semi-auto has paddle shift like an F1 car not a gearstick like this.
Wheel Nut:
Carryfast:
Wheel Nut:
ERF and Eaton Fuller persevered with the RTO 11609 & 11613 until they had the Twin Splitter and SAMT gearbox.The rest were born from it. a lightweight auto that is simple to use
Or there’s always the lightweight,simple to produce and maintain,strong,and relatively cheap good old fashioned 13 and 18 speed ordinary range change and splitter manual one.Which will still let you give your left leg a rest or use the clutch if you feel like it.But only the yanks seem to be lucky enough to still be using them in large numbers now.
Which is exactly the same gearbox I mentioned, although you call it an old fashioned 13 and 18 speed ordinary range change and splitter manual one. I called it a Fuller RTO 11613
With such a quick shifting gearbox as a 9 speed Fuller I probably found the need for a splitter necessary when gross weights increased to 40 tonnes in Europe & 38 tonne in the UK, but never did and still don’t understand why the Yanks needed 18 gears to pull a taj over 36 tonne with 600 horses.
I meant the twin splitter and the SAMT but I can’t say much about them because I never drove either of those.But I’ve always gone by the rule if it ain’t broke don’t fix it but the 13 speed was a big improvement over the 9 speeder.But the idea of putting the splitter on all the gears instead of just the top four was probably just a case of why not and the closer the ratios the faster the change and the better for keeping the motor in the best part of it’s power band when climbing some of those long grades there and it’s probably good in the mountains in Europe too.But it would probably suit the old two strokes much better than something whith the character of the modern type of motors which just lumber along with a power band starting from nearly idle revs?.But the answer is probably the same as the yanks in the 1960’s and early 1970’s would never understand how the Brits could drive something with a Gardner in it and an old box which took all day to change between each gear or put a 7 litre 6v71 non turbo two stroke in the TM to run at 32 tonnes.But it’s my bet that all of those new modern day drivers who act the fool by saying that they don’t do good old fashioned trucks,or Brits who can’t understand the yanks way of doing things,would soon change their minds if their guvnors ever gave them the choice.
Carryfast:
Wheel Nut:
Carryfast:
Wheel Nut:
ERF and Eaton Fuller persevered with the RTO 11609 & 11613 until they had the Twin Splitter and SAMT gearbox.The rest were born from it. a lightweight auto that is simple to use
Or there’s always the lightweight,simple to produce and maintain,strong,and relatively cheap good old fashioned 13 and 18 speed ordinary range change and splitter manual one.Which will still let you give your left leg a rest or use the clutch if you feel like it.But only the yanks seem to be lucky enough to still be using them in large numbers now.
Which is exactly the same gearbox I mentioned, although you call it an old fashioned 13 and 18 speed ordinary range change and splitter manual one. I called it a Fuller RTO 11613
With such a quick shifting gearbox as a 9 speed Fuller I probably found the need for a splitter necessary when gross weights increased to 40 tonnes in Europe & 38 tonne in the UK, but never did and still don’t understand why the Yanks needed 18 gears to pull a taj over 36 tonne with 600 horses.
I meant the twin splitter and the SAMT and the other autos which as you said came from them but I can’t say much about them because I never drove either of those or any fuller autos.I’ve always gone by the rule if it ain’t broke don’t fix it but the 13 speed was a big improvement over the 9 speeder.But the idea of putting the splitter on all the gears instead of just the top four was probably just a case of why not and the closer the ratios the faster the change and the better for keeping the motor in the best part of it’s power band when climbing some of those long grades there and it’s probably good in the mountains in Europe too.But it would probably suit the old two strokes much better than something whith the character of the modern type of motors which just lumber along with a power band starting from nearly idle revs?.But the answer is probably the same as the yanks in the 1960’s and early 1970’s would never understand how the Brits could drive something with a Gardner in it and an old box which took all day to change between each gear or put a 7 litre 6v71 non turbo two stroke in the TM to run at 32 tonnes.But it’s my bet that all of those new modern day drivers who act the fool by saying that they don’t do good old fashioned trucks,or Brits who can’t understand the yanks way of doing things,would soon change their minds if their guvnors ever gave them the choice.
Oh dear, oh dear oh dear,
.36 seconds
2.00 minutes
2.13 and 2.50
Trying too hard to impress methinks 
ee by gum, av dun some miles in one of them.
Ark-Angel:
See these young un’s cant handle a bit of thinking behind the wheel. As far as they are concerned a semi-auto has paddle shift like an F1 car not a gearstick like this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mN_3nt9cerU
Hes not that good, his left legs going up and down like a yo yo, leave the clutch alone.
8 legger:
Ark-Angel:
See these young un’s cant handle a bit of thinking behind the wheel. As far as they are concerned a semi-auto has paddle shift like an F1 car not a gearstick like this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mN_3nt9cerUHes not that good, his left legs going up and down like a yo yo, leave the clutch alone.
thats what i was thinking aswell, nice too see the old cab on the man tho that brought some nice memories
scotstrucker:
thats what i was thinking aswell, nice too see the old cab on the man tho that brought some nice memories
It not that really it’s just it’s the only video i could find of the Twin Split.
SuperSmiley:
No sorry Joe…05 plate with wind down windows
We’ve had a brand new fleet of Volvo FL7s 09/59 and they all have keep fit windows. They do have air con and auto boxes though.