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[att]

This really is a moment in time when the whole of the world is just on the move. Most humans will go where life is easy, this is because most humans care little for themselves or others and usually are not that bright.
I see that the EU has opened up another ‘job centre’ in Cape Verde, they hope to attract Africans over to the EU…Why■■?

Anyway what it all means is that the UK will become densely populated by people who care little for each other with little brainpower…The ones with brains are leaving the UK, as these people can make a living anywhere and can see that in just another 2 or 3 generation life will become intolerable for them…It is nothing new, it has happened before, just like the Romans who came, placed in decent infrastructure and then we were invaded by the Jutes, Picts, etc. They became known as the Saxons and the country then went backwards for many centuries

The UK is no place for many and there is nothing that anyone can do to stop the place becoming dire…I am off this year, I shall not return, I suggest if it is possible, that the majority who winge about the situation actually look at their own options and do something about it…Empower yourselves, the grass is never greener everyplace has problems, but you can improve your life by living with like-minded individuals, if that is another country, then so be it.

[koop]

Can you post on here which direction the caravans are going Orys please… That way we can avoid them.

[muckles]

att:
This really is a moment in time when the whole of the world is just on the move. Most humans will go where life is easy, this is because most humans care little for themselves or others and usually are not that bright.
I see that the EU has opened up another ‘job centre’ in Cape Verde, they hope to attract Africans over to the EU…Why■■?

Anyway what it all means is that the UK will become densely populated by people who care little for each other with little brainpower…The ones with brains are leaving the UK, as these people can make a living anywhere and can see that in just another 2 or 3 generation life will become intolerable for them…It is nothing new, it has happened before,

The World is always on the move, people move away from areas of conflict and poverty.
As for a job centre in Africa, don’t you think it’s been opened to attract the Doctors and other proffesionals needed to replace those who have left. In fact the theory behind it is to attract them to Europe before they go off to the US.

att:
just like the Romans who came, placed in decent infrastructure and then we were invaded by the Jutes, Picts, etc. They became known as the Saxons and the country then went backwards for many centuries

The UK is no place for many and there is nothing that anyone can do to stop the place becoming dire…I am off this year, I shall not return, I suggest if it is possible, that the majority who winge about the situation actually look at their own options and do something about it…Empower yourselves, the grass is never greener everyplace has problems, but you can improve your life by living with like-minded individuals, if that is another country, then so be it.

So the Romans, a bunch of immigrants, were okay? They turned up here changed the culture of the country, because the clever local leader quickly realised that becoming Romanised and allegiance to Rome was good for them Politically and financially.

Also just because a society doesn’t leave buildings etc it doesn’t mean it isn’t a complex system and the people in that society aren’t clever.
You also forgot the Angles and Saxons. And the Picts were already here and pretty much stayed North of the Border.

[johnny_boy_1]

I fail to understand why the government let them in in the first place. A fast majority came to this great country of our with nothing, our government welcome them, give them everything they want and yet when people like me, born and bred here get sick and need help to get back to work, wot happens? nothing at al. I was a builder, had my own company but could not compete with there prices, i lost my company because of it. I even had polish guys come up to me in the builders merchants asking me in broken english how to build, so you tell me where the fairness is when we are not on a level playing field. Even when i went to sign on, polish family next to me, shouting and hollowing, they walked away with pockets of cash, wot did the english man get sitting next to them, £59.65 a week and i had to spend 4 pound on bus faires to go and sign on to get it. This is not a personal attack on anyone, just makes me so angry that im fast becoming a minority in my own country. Rant over and wheres my tin hat gone

[orys]

Koop:
Can you post on here which direction the caravans are going Orys please… That way we can avoid them.

I guess that most of them are in Sahara Becouse I meant THIS tipe of caravans:

not THESE ONES:

[mike-c]

muckles:
The World is always on the move, people move away from areas of conflict and poverty.

Albeit they move about so slowly over long periods of time to form distinctly different races and cultures. Whats happening now could be called ‘diversity’ or maybe just lumping everybody together and hope they get on with it, depending upon your viewpoint. Across most of the world they don’t apear to be able to get on with it, and as the globe becomes more poplated they can’t move away from areas of conflict and poverty, they just move about in it. We’re all doomed !!!

[v8_passion]

well the new year is here and work is quiet but 10 foreigners have been laid off by a blue chip firm in Spalding so hopefully they will ■■ off back east it couldnt of happened to nicer people, the union told bosses local lads have to stay so lets hope everyone else follows suit,

[drew128]

V8 Passion:
well the new year is here and work is quiet but 10 foreigners have been laid off by a blue chip firm in Spalding so hopefully they will [zb] off back east it couldnt of happened to nicer people, the union told bosses local lads have to stay so lets hope everyone else follows suit,

They are the lucky ones for sure, nowhere near someone like you. I fear however they are resourceful folk and will find work again with less problem than the locals seem to have. Wishing you a Happy New Year in your small world and that all your neighbors end up being Polish.

[orys]

drew128:
Wishing you a Happy New Year in your small world and that all your neighbors end up being Polish.

Why you wish so bad to Polish people?

[orys]

V8 Passion:
well the new year is here and work is quiet but 10 foreigners have been laid off by a blue chip firm in Spalding so hopefully they will [zb] off back east it couldnt of happened to nicer people, the union told bosses local lads have to stay so lets hope everyone else follows suit,

So as you can see Poles don’t have special treatment and they are loosing their jobs as everyone else…

[simon]

orys:

drew128:
Wishing you a Happy New Year in your small world and that all your neighbors end up being Polish.

Why you wish so bad to Polish people?

[greg50]

orys.
i dont normally reply to you.i feel i must do so now.
i am one of the drivers that would like to see all the poles sent home.
i feel i have good reason to say this.
i did european work all my life from the mid 70s.
i met plenty of good polish drivers as well as drivers from all the countries.
the present problem is.
when poland joined the eu.there was places for some to come to ireland and england.
i read figures in the paper saying theres 500,000 in britain and 250,000 in ireland.
these figures,i dont believe.
i would double or treble them
both countries are saturated with poles,are in a lot of cases they are working cheaper then the local people can afford to.
i know in dublin,they[poles] are laughing about taking the jobs of the locals.
not a very good advertisment for polish popularity.
i cant bring myself to deal with polish in a civil manner when i have to work with them.
i never had a gripe wwith them,but now.i have a big issue with them and would rather see them all gone back home.
most of them send a large bulk of their wages home,not circulating the money in local economies.
i now read that in poland on some building sites,they wont employ english or irish.
they came over after the berlin wall was brought down,but,we are paying the price.

[harry_kyng]

greg50:
orys… they came over after the berlin wall was brought down,but,we are paying the price.

I’m sorry, but I must have missed something. What does the fall of the Berlin wall have to do with Poles coming here ?

[mike-c]

Why reg:

greg50:
orys… they came over after the berlin wall was brought down,but,we are paying the price.

I’m sorry, but I must have missed something. What does the fall of the Berlin wall have to do with Poles coming here ?

I think he’s refering to the opening up of the Eastern Bloc countries in general?

[att]

I have to say this…In my experience, and that is not my opinion, but actual experience…English people are lazy ■■■■■■■■■ most every industry I have worked in and I have just realised that English truck drivers are mostly lazy gits. I just hope the tar from this brush does not taint myself.

[drew128]

greg50:
orys.
i dont normally reply to you.i feel i must do so now.
i am one of the drivers that would like to see all the poles sent home.
i feel i have good reason to say this.
i did european work all my life from the mid 70s.
i met plenty of good polish drivers as well as drivers from all the countries.
the present problem is.
when poland joined the eu.there was places for some to come to ireland and england.
i read figures in the paper saying theres 500,000 in britain and 250,000 in ireland.
these figures,i dont believe.
i would double or treble them
both countries are saturated with poles,are in a lot of cases they are working cheaper then the local people can afford to.
i know in dublin,they[poles] are laughing about taking the jobs of the locals.
not a very good advertisment for polish popularity.
i cant bring myself to deal with polish in a civil manner when i have to work with them.
i never had a gripe wwith them,but now.i have a big issue with them and would rather see them all gone back home.
most of them send a large bulk of their wages home,not circulating the money in local economies.
i now read that in poland on some building sites,they wont employ english or irish.
they came over after the berlin wall was brought down,but,we are paying the price.

I quite understand your gripe, let me tell you about me:

Got a Polish wife, the neighbors both sides are Polish, all I hear is Polish voices, I eat Polish food brought form a Polish shop, drink Polish beer and vodka, I have Polish TV, when I work locally I am working with Poles. I have no problem with this at all, I like Poles, its just I live in Skipton

In fact should I wish to do Yorkshire I set off in my Polish car to the place my wife works along with a load of other Poles and have a Yorkshire carvary at a traditional English pub. I do feel that this is somehow not quite right at the back of my mind, I have to be honest.

Not to worry to much the UK does not figure at all in my life anyway, but do I feel like a foreigner in my country of birth… Yes.

I have met people who don’t know my back ground, so i hear the rumblings from some folks and I can understand it completely, also I drive a Polish car, so I get the odd person who wants a spot of trouble, but you have a problem as i see it. Some people seem to love them.

I rent the house, so gave notice to quit. The landlord ask if I knew any Poles who would rent our house, he told me the reasons, so fair enough, we found a couple for him. At my wifes work everyone is paid the same, but only the Poles make the 90% company satisfaction rating, all the highest covers served are done by the Polish crew, same at the agency i used to drive for, paid the same, just work harder.

The horse has long left the stable on this one. Unless the government change their policies, then it ain’t going to change. Many people like yourself might try to be unpleasant to Polish folk, some might go further, take the law into their own hands, but who the real culprits in this thing? well you voted for them.

I have been back 3 weeks now, its blooming depressing, 23 days to go to freedom

[harry_kyng]

Mike-C:

Why reg:

greg50:
orys… they came over after the berlin wall was brought down,but,we are paying the price.

I’m sorry, but I must have missed something. What does the fall of the Berlin wall have to do with Poles coming here ?

I think he’s refering to the opening up of the Eastern Bloc countries in general?

Ah, I thought it was to do with Poland et al being accepted into the EU followed by our ■■■■ poor immigration policies and overly helpful social services Not to mention the 24/7 open door asylum seeking policy

[wheel_nut]

There is an interesting story in the paper tonight.

Apparently they have got enough DNA to recreate Neanderthal Man. That should solve the immigration problem as we can make home made workers from a few genetic cells. Dolly the Sheep and Billy the supermarket Mule

[orys]

greg50:
orys.
i dont normally reply to you.i feel i must do so now.

I wonder: Are you usually don’t speak with Poles? Or there is any other reason and it’s particularly about myself?

i am one of the drivers that would like to see all the poles sent home.
i feel i have good reason to say this.

I am always interested to hear from you, at least I live in this country so it’s good to know the local’s mood and opinion.

when poland joined the eu.there was places for some to come to ireland and england.
i read figures in the paper saying theres 500,000 in britain and 250,000 in ireland.
these figures,i dont believe.
i would double or treble them

I don’t believe in them either. They are estimated that in the top moment there was about 1000 000 of Poles in Britain only.

both countries are saturated with poles,are in a lot of cases they are working cheaper then the local people can afford to.

That part I can never understand. So Poles are able to come here, work for less, while they sitll have to rent a flat, some of them are buying a flats or houses, they still buy a food, a car, petrol or diesel, pay taxes and NIN and all that at the same price than Brits. Then they are flying to Poland very often to see their family and as you claim, they sending most of their salaries there (I not). So they have to live as every other people in this country and on the top of that they travel very often through half of Europe and sending money home and they still can manage that from smaller salaries than Brits? Please be honest and call that “Poles are working for smaller money than Brits want to”, no “that Brits can afford”.

i know in dublin,they[poles] are laughing about taking the jobs of the locals.
not a very good advertisment for polish popularity.

There is some amount of people who are not a good advertisment for their community in every nation…

i cant bring myself to deal with polish in a civil manner when i have to work with them.
i never had a gripe wwith them,but now.i have a big issue with them and would rather see them all gone back home.

I fully understand your position. It’s always better to rid off competition when times are getting thight.

most of them send a large bulk of their wages home,not circulating the money in local economies.

Tell me: how you imagine that it’s possible? Are they sending all money back to Poland and their families are sending them parcels with tents (to save them from spending money on flats), candles and batteries (to save them from spending money on electricity), sandiches, cabbage and sassauges (to save them from spending money on food) and petrol (to save them from spending money for fuel)?

Come on, it’s impossible to live in some country and do not take part if this country economics.

i now read that in poland on some building sites,they wont employ english or irish.

■■■■■■■■. They will employ everyone who want to work for salary offered. There is already a bunch of British companies working in Poland, we have even English bus drivers and the biggest buidling company in Poland is Skanska, from Sweden IIRC and they employ much swedish engeeners… So if you will be struggling with money, you are welcome. Please only learn some basic Polish, becouse, as milodon likes to emphasize, many Poles do not speak english, especially back in home.

they came over after the berlin wall was brought down,but,we are paying the price.

To be correct with history: they were coming a lot in 80s here. When the Berlin Wall fell, the things in Poland improved radically, so there were no significant emigration from Poland in 90s. After Poland joined EC and becomed part of unificated european work market, mass emigration started as it wasn’t any longer complicated thing to do.

[v8_passion]

greg50:
orys.
i dont normally reply to you.i feel i must do so now.
i am one of the drivers that would like to see all the poles sent home.
i feel i have good reason to say this.
i did european work all my life from the mid 70s.
i met plenty of good polish drivers as well as drivers from all the countries.
the present problem is.
when poland joined the eu.there was places for some to come to ireland and england.
i read figures in the paper saying theres 500,000 in britain and 250,000 in ireland.
these figures,i dont believe.
i would double or treble them
both countries are saturated with poles,are in a lot of cases they are working cheaper then the local people can afford to.
i know in dublin,they[poles] are laughing about taking the jobs of the locals.
not a very good advertisment for polish popularity.
i cant bring myself to deal with polish in a civil manner when i have to work with them.
i never had a gripe wwith them,but now.i have a big issue with them and would rather see them all gone back home.
most of them send a large bulk of their wages home,not circulating the money in local economies.
i now read that in poland on some building sites,they wont employ english or irish.
they came over after the berlin wall was brought down,but,we are paying the price.[/quote

this man is dead on, in my area the taliban drive cars registered in eastern countries which i wonder whats the percentage that aint insured or tested legally, i know of a pole that was bragging that his mate sent him documents in the post, i also know of pole drivers that steal diesel out of there trucks for there private cars, i have said it before get them out of our trucks out of our houses and OUT OF OUR COUNTRY.