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The UK is well and truly bolloxed due to Westministers incumberants.

I am out of here next year as it is pointless moaning, protesting or even trying to do anything about it.

I see that the EU is going to allow another 60 million bods from Africa the freedom to roam the EU countires, that is the final death knell for me. I have travelled Africa extensively, I have employed Africans in the UK, I have enough experience of these people to enable me to realise that I do not want to live in the same place as them…Not racist, just that their culture and my own collide in a way that causes me distress…And who do you think will get the most concessions■■?
The white working class male 35 - 45 or the Black African Asylum seeker?
I feel that we all know the answer to this one.

May your god go with you…

att:
I see that the EU is going to allow another 60 million bods from Africa the freedom to roam the EU countires

First I’ve heard of it, have you got a citation?

Aint the EU great…

ec.europa.eu/social/main.jsp?catId=470&langId=en

Shame that they do not advertise it… :unamused: :unamused:

att:
Aint the EU great…

ec.europa.eu/social/main.jsp?catId=470&langId=en

Shame that they do not advertise it… :unamused: :unamused:

Can’t really see were it says they are going to allow 60 million African freedom to wander across Europe.

As it is relevant to the post I will answer your question,

I have been affected by immigrants & foreign hauliers coming to England after the relaxtion of the Cabotage Laws, I closed my business as I couldn’t compete & still make a profit, I worked very hard to get to where I was & to have it, more or less, taken away from me was not a nice feeling at all.

I’m a Londoner & because of ghetto mentality my hometown is now not a nice place to be, when your kid is the only white person in the whole year it’s time to go, most of the lessons were spent teaching the immigrant kids to speak English, the natives already could so they were largely ignored, so I moved to the suburbs, only to be followed by the immigrants who knew how to manipulate the benefit system to the max & make a lot of money in the process, this led to me leaving the country altogether.

I find it hard to understand how a year after jumping out the back of a trailer on the A20 these Africans can be found at the wheel of a Merc or BMW complete with custom tissue box on the parcel shelf.

I’m not a racist, as far as I’m concerned the colour of a man’s skin means SFA & to use the old cliche, I have black friends, mostly from the West Indies & they dislike the Africans as much as we do, they refer to them as spearchuckers :laughing: As ATT so rightly says, the African culture does not mix with a civilised one, much the same as the extreme Muslims, they have no place in Western Society, none of them come here to adapt, they come here to change things to their way of doing things. The Brits in Spain who insist on playing Bingo & reading the Sun while drinking pints of Boddies & eating an English Breakfast are viewed in a similar way by the Spanish, whereas the Brits that embrace the local customs are made to feel welcome.

As I have stated in a previous post, I have no problem with the ones that embrace our customs & do a days work, but as for the rest of them, well that’s an entirely different matter altogether.:

I still would’ve give the bloke a jump start though :laughing: :laughing:

Maybe this is a better source for UK’s let anyone in immigration policy

ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/

Since a new system went live where we are moving towards the Australian system for people wishing to come here who are non-EU nationals. Which is a lot more stricter than before.

Keep on hearing about this UK unlimited immigration policy where does it come from the BNP ?

Its a lot of crap, its chinese whispers, there was talk a year or so ago about the UK immigration policy being too strict with non-EU workers when they couldnt fill skilled positions.

Asylum seekers supposedly 23,000 applied in in 2005 yet there was 18,000 failed asylum seekers deported in 2006. Wow thats a difference of 5000 people ever thought some of them maybe have been genuine, its hardly over running the country is it 5000 people.

muckles:

att:
Aint the EU great…

ec.europa.eu/social/main.jsp?catId=470&langId=en

Shame that they do not advertise it… :unamused: :unamused:

Can’t really see were it says they are going to allow 60 million African freedom to wander across Europe.

This explains better.

MORE than 50 million African workers are to be invited to Europe in a far-reaching secretive migration deal, the Daily Express can reveal today.

A controversial taxpayer-funded “job centre” opened in Mali this week is just the first step towards promoting “free movement of people in Africa and the EU”.

Brussels economists claim Britain and other EU states will “need” 56 million immigrant workers between them by 2050 to make up for the “demographic decline” due to falling birth rates and rising death rates across Europe.

The report, by the EU statistical agency Eurostat, warns that vast numbers of migrants could be needed to meet the shortfall in two years if Europe is to have a hope of funding the pension and health needs of its growing elderly population.

It states: “Countries with low fertility rates could require a significant number of immigrants over the coming dec­ades if they want to maintain the existing number of people of working age.

“Having sufficient people of working age is vital for the economy and for tax revenue.”

The report, by French MEP Francoise Castex, calls for immigrants to be given legal rights and access to social welfare provision such as benefits.

Ms Castex said: “It is urgent that member states have a calm approach to immigration. To say ‘yes’, we need immigration … it is not a new development, we must accept it.”

The proposals include the creation of a “blue card” system, based on the American green card, that provides full working and welfare rights.

Blue card holders would be entitled to move freely across the EU, setting up home in any of the 27 member states.

Last night Sir Andrew Green, of Mig­rationWatchUK said: “Eng­land, with Holland, is al­ready the most crowded country in Europe.

“As it is, we have to build the equivalent of seven cities the size of Birmingham over 25 years for the immigrants the Government already expects.

“Yet again the ‘one-size-fits-all’ policy of the EU produces absurd results. These would be ridiculous proposals if they were applied to the Britain.

“The Government must ensure that these work permits are not valid for the UK.

“Higher levels of immigration are the last thing we need with a recession approaching.”

And Shadow Home Sec­retary Dominic Grieve said: “When ministers are talking tough about efforts to control immigration, they need to provide a clear explanation that national policy is not being undermined through the backdoor in Brussels.”

The UK Indepen­dence Party leader Nigel Farage attacked the move as “an outrage”. He said: “The sooner Britain gets back control of immigration policy, the better.”

The proposals — part of the Africa-EU Partnership signed in Portugal last December — also warns of the negative effects of mass immigration and calls for “better integration of African migrants”.

It calls too for a compassionate approach to the eight million illegal immigrants already living in the EU.

It states: “Irregular migrants must not be treated like criminals. Many risk their lives seeking freedom or the means of subsistence in Europe. As long as the EU has a higher standard of living than those countries to its south and east, the temptation to come will exist — especially if there are jobs to be had.”

The declaration calls on the EU to assist African governments to set up migration information centres “to better manage labour mobility bet­ween Africa and the EU”.

The first was the job centre opened in Bamako, capital of Mali, on Monday. Other centres are expected to open soon in other west African states and later in north Africa.

Yesterday the Daily Express revealed that, in an apparent contradiction of immigration policy, thousands of migrants — like Kanoute Tieny from Mali — are being given up to £5,500 in grants by the EU to return home to Africa.

French president Nicolas Sarkozy wants to implement an EU-wide immigration plan by the end of the year when he stands down as head of the Council of the European Union.

This body implements policy proposed by the European Commission and discussed by the European Parliament.

French immigration minis­ter Brice Hortefeux has represented all the 27 EU states, including Britain, in a succession of whirlwind tours through west Africa to help create a strategy.

Last night the Home Office said the UK had nothing to do with this EU plan.

A Border Agency spokesperson said the initiative is aimed at promoting legal migration routes in the Schengen area of the EU which the UK opted out of. The area includes most but not all member states.

“We therefore retain full control of our own borders and our asylum system.”

christianh:
from experience (2001) i knew the waiting list for a property even those deemed soon to be homeless would be atleast 6 months however when i rang up the nice lady told me i could expect a 3 [zb] year wait at the minimum.

Should count yourself lucky since it was a 7 year wait for council accomdation in my home town in 1993 when i applied.

Thats all down to the tory policy of selling off all the council housing, only places left in my area are the worst areas. Its prob also the reason we are in such a mess just now, because when i was young couldnt get a council house, had to go private had to buy. Situation 15 years on ten times worse why we have people paying stupid money for houses and flats, and people going out getting mortgages they can’t afford to pay back.

I know its easy to blame someone from a foreign country, but the blame is a lot closer to home.

Kenny1975:
Maybe this is a better source for UK’s let anyone in immigration policy

ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/

Since a new system went live where we are moving towards the Australian system for people wishing to come here who are non-EU nationals. Which is a lot more stricter than before.

Keep on hearing about this UK unlimited immigration policy where does it come from the BNP ?

Its a lot of crap, its chinese whispers, there was talk a year or so ago about the UK immigration policy being too strict with non-EU workers when they couldnt fill skilled positions.

Asylum seekers supposedly 23,000 applied in in 2005 yet there was 18,000 failed asylum seekers deported in 2006. Wow thats a difference of 5000 people ever thought some of them maybe have been genuine, its hardly over running the country is it 5000 people.

The Home Office couldn’t organise a ■■■■ up in a brewery never mind run an immigration system.

gsm31:

muckles:

att:
Aint the EU great…

ec.europa.eu/social/main.jsp?catId=470&langId=en

Shame that they do not advertise it… :unamused: :unamused:

Can’t really see were it says they are going to allow 60 million African freedom to wander across Europe.

This explains better.

MORE than 50 million African workers are to be invited to Europe in a far-reaching secretive migration deal, the Daily Express can reveal today.

Brussels economists claim Britain and other EU states will “need” 56 million immigrant workers between them by 2050 to make up for the “demographic decline” due to falling birth rates and rising death rates across Europe.

The report, by the EU statistical agency Eurostat, warns that vast numbers of migrants could be needed to meet the shortfall in two years if Europe is to have a hope of funding the pension and health needs of its growing elderly population.

It states: “Countries with low fertility rates could require a significant number of immigrants over the coming dec­ades if they want to maintain the existing number of people of working age.

“Having sufficient people of working age is vital for the economy and for tax revenue.”

The proposals include the creation of a “blue card” system, based on the American green card, that provides full working and welfare rights.

Typical Daily Express scare mongering.

The article says the EU as a whole will need an extra 50 million people of working age by 2050, to make up for the declining birth rate and ageing population acorss the EU, this includes the UK.

And the EU is introducing a Blue card system, this will be issued to skilled workers and help us compete with Canada and the US who attract a greater proportion of the skilled immirgrants from these countries than the EU Countries do.

It may be the EU as a whole, but the majority of the scroungers will have a one way ticket to the UK.

As a matter of interest, can anybody come up with statistics that show the proportion of immigrants in each EU country, I have a feeling that the UK has the most.

newmercman:
It may be the EU as a whole, but the majority of the scroungers will have a one way ticket to the UK.

As a matter of interest, can anybody come up with statistics that show the proportion of immigrants in each EU country, I have a feeling that the UK has the most.

This maybe true, but this proposal won’t make that any worse, all it is a way of allowing skilled workers from outside the EU free movement across borders if they have a Blue card work permit.

Stats for you net mirgration.

https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2112rank.html

Blimey, the UK is well down the list, seems I’m a racist pig after all :laughing: :laughing:

muckles:
Stats for you net mirgration.

https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2112rank.html

An independant and non political source may be better
migrationwatchuk.com/

muckles:

newmercman:
It may be the EU as a whole, but the majority of the scroungers will have a one way ticket to the UK.

As a matter of interest, can anybody come up with statistics that show the proportion of immigrants in each EU country, I have a feeling that the UK has the most.

This maybe true, but this proposal won’t make that any worse, all it is a way of allowing skilled workers from outside the EU free movement across borders if they have a Blue card work permit.

Stats for you net mirgration.

https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2112rank.html

Please note muckles that the stats you quote are based on the 2001 census and therefore not as relevant as they might be to the thread a large portion of eastern european migrants will have arrived within the last 7 years.

I looked further into your quoted stats and found this…

Net migration rate This entry includes the figure for the difference between the number of persons entering and leaving a country during the year per 1,000 persons (based on midyear population). An excess of persons entering the country is referred to as net immigration (e.g., 3.56 migrants/1,000 population); an excess of persons leaving the country as net emigration (e.g., -9.26 migrants/1,000 population). The net migration rate indicates the contribution of migration to the overall level of population change. High levels of migration can cause problems such as increasing unemployment and potential ethnic strife (if people are coming in) or a reduction in the labor force, perhaps in certain key sectors (if people are leaving).

which is the CIA`s definition of a nett-migration rate.

which highlights the fact that Western Governments even if it is politically incorrect to publicly recognise the problem acknowledge that there are potential areas of disquiet for the indigenous population to contemplate.

This debate needs to be held and people should not be vilified for their views
or the current situation will just get worse. The discussion cannot remain TABOO or the liberal do-gooders win again.

N.B I wouldn’t have given him a jump-start due to the fact that there are 8 ECU`s on my truck and jump-starting is not recommended as these may blow
I would have been prepared to advise a garage exactly where he was though then he has the same choice as me to pay for it, I refused my customer the same request 2 weeks ago.

annitram:
N.B I wouldn’t have given him a jump-start due to the fact that there are 8 ECU`s on my truck and jump-starting is not recommended as these may blow
.

Don’t you have a battery isolator switch?

annitram:
Please note muckles that the stats you quote are based on the 2001 census and therefore not as relevant as they might be to the thread a large portion of eastern european migrants will have arrived within the last 7 years.

It does say 2008 est, but if you have better information then please post it. :wink:

annitram:
I looked further into your quoted stats and found this…

Net migration rate This entry includes the figure for the difference between the number of persons entering and leaving a country during the year per 1,000 persons (based on midyear population). An excess of persons entering the country is referred to as net immigration (e.g., 3.56 migrants/1,000 population); an excess of persons leaving the country as net emigration (e.g., -9.26 migrants/1,000 population). The net migration rate indicates the contribution of migration to the overall level of population change. High levels of migration can cause problems such as increasing unemployment and potential ethnic strife (if people are coming in) or a reduction in the labor force, perhaps in certain key sectors (if people are leaving).

which is the CIA`s definition of a nett-migration rate.

which highlights the fact that Western Governments even if it is politically incorrect to publicly recognise the problem acknowledge that there are potential areas of disquiet for the indigenous population to contemplate.

This debate needs to be held and people should not be vilified for their views
or the current situation will just get worse. The discussion cannot remain TABOO or the liberal do-gooders win again.

I think the effects of migration has been discussed and from what I read in our rather sensationalist press those with any moderate views are drowned out by extremists.
Also there have been changes to the immigration especially from those outside the EU that has made it more difficult for employers.
I know this as the company I work for employs people from outside the EU and it defiently wasn’t as striaght forward as it has been in previous years.

and after the outcry of mass migration from Poland and other countries joining the EU, due the the fact the UK was one of only 3 countries in the EU that didn’t take up the option of placing retrictions on these workers, when Romainia and Bulgaria joined their nationals had to apply to work here or gain one of the limited permits allowed for certain trades and proffesions.

annitram:
N.B I wouldn’t have given him a jump-start due to the fact that there are 8 ECU`s on my truck and jump-starting is not recommended as these may blow
I would have been prepared to advise a garage exactly where he was though then he has the same choice as me to pay for it, I refused my customer the same request 2 weeks ago.

The ECU’s are also a concern of mine, but talking to my brother about jump starting cars (he used to do recovery work) he was told to turn the light on as any spikes will go through the light circuit.

However I went to jump start a Spainish truck a couple of months back and found a different problem. we can’t get to the battery box cover off because of side skirts and trailer being in the way. :confused: But we managed to start him with the taillift batteries in the back of the trailer and no risk of damaging the ECU’s. :smiley:

the worst thing to be in this country is white british and male!!!..

kemaro:
the worst thing to be in this country is white british and male!!!..

kemaro please add WORKING to this phrase

annitram:

kemaro:
the worst thing to be in this country is white british and male!!!..

kemaro please add WORKING to this phrase

I would do but a lot of us are no longer working thanks to this fantastic goverment!