newmercman:
Tesco isn’t in haulage, they’re a supermarket,
Well actually they were for a long time, and still are at a few other depots, ask any of the 600 people who worked at Middlewich from where Tesco ran their own account fleet. link
Also ask any of the 620 staff who worked at Middleton, yes Tesco paid Wincanton a management fee, but again all the fleet of tractors and trailers were owned by Tesco link
Both depots closed due to the huge injection of finance Tesco has given Stobart which got rid of the great terms and conditons staff had at Middlewich and Middleton depots such as a higher hourly rate and double time for Sundays and Bank Holidays for example, something unheard of at Stobarts.
My personal opinion is that Stobart without Tesco would be nothing
I wouldn’t say Stobart would be nothing, after all they were a pretty decent size prior to Tesco, but they have had a massive helping hand from getting the Tesco work, maybe Tesco Financing were involved, it would make sense to both parties.
Tesco did have their own fleet, but they weren’t hauliers, the fleet was a necessity as they needed control of their store deliveries, they never done any work for anybody else, it makes sense for them to concentrate on their core business of selling groceries and leave the transport of them to an outside contractor, I’m sure the original Tesco employees were ■■■■■■ off at being laid off and seeing their jobs taken over by Stobart drivers, but I’m pretty sure Stobart never forced Tesco to do anything, Tesco made the decision purely from a financial perspective, so if the drivers have the hump with anyone, it should be Tesco, not Stobarts.
BTW moomooland, I’m no fan of Stobart, I was earning good money out of Tesco before them tossers turned up with their silly yellow t-shirts and green and red lorries, so I’m the same as your driver friends, but it’s business, all part of a free market economy, the alternative is communism and I don’t like wearing flip flops and shiny tracksuits, so it’s a small price to pay
I’ve just logged on after being away for the weekend and nearly 9 pags dedicated to stobarts, this is probably what stobart PR department wanted , my nan asked me who Stobarts was as some some old ladies were even talking about it at the hair dressers
i’ve seen the the tv trailers but have not seen an epsiode but think i should just to see what all the fuss is about
Think C5 should nick a slogan from Eastenders
“Stobarts trucks & trailers: everyones talking about it”
could this esclipse the Transam topc at this rate probably.
newmercman:
BTW moomooland, I’m no fan of Stobart, I was earning good money out of Tesco before them tossers turned up with their silly yellow t-shirts and green and red lorries, so I’m the same as your driver friends, but it’s business, all part of a free market economy, the alternative is communism and I don’t like wearing flip flops and shiny tracksuits, so it’s a small price to pay
Must’ve been organised better than Morrisons then re making good money out of it. I know that they were paying subbies £220 per shift at the run up to Crimbo 2008 when I was subbying to Hanson’s as a driver. Hanson’s didn’t stay on it long when they realised that Morrisons were giving the drivers 2 long runs like Buxton and a Derby in one shift. Shifts would regularly be 13,14,15 hours by the time you added up on the base>Morrisons>base legs and as I was charging out at £11 per hour (nights) with time 1.5 OT you can quickly see how profitable the work was for them. Or should that read ‘me’?
A local barber who cuts hair and does it cheaper than everyone else is not going to keep his customers if he scalps someone, the barber does his job to the best of his ability, the customers return, even if he is a little bit dearer, but he takes care, doesn’t ask you boring questions about your holidays or doesn’t offer you coffee out of the cup he keeps his combs in In other words Stobart take all the headaches away from a grocer trying to sell his wares to the public.
The Stobart knockers must have a jealous streak. I admire the pair like I admired Victor Kiam in the 60’s he liked the product so much, he bought the company, (Remington.) That is what Mr Tinkler and little Billy Stobart have done, bought a company, turned it around with paying contracts, some spot hire and a major brand. The Brand is Stobart and like Coca Cola and Macdonalds it is seen by millions of people every day. I doubt most of the public associate Tesco solely with Stobart, even if they see a Tesco liveried lorry pulling a Stobbie trailer or vice versa.
A new planner at Stobart took a phone call one morning, Hello " do you deliver?
"Sorry, no, but hold on Madam, I will transfer you to the butchery department of Tesco. (groan)
A few have said others could easily take on the work, they probably could after all Wincanton Transport grew from close ties with the milk industry and diversified into International Road and Container Haulage. They control all Michelin tyre movements in Germany a far cry from a small company in a small town supplying dairy equipment.
DHL could also probably cope, they grew from a nationalised transport industry called BRS but if my guess is right, The Stobart business model will have been chosen over both these “other” companies for their long term commitment and the fact that a major brand in retail can work well with a major brand in transport. Tesco are in Europe Asia and America, how long before we have drivers holidaying in the states to do a Stobart driving assessment?
I think the Tesco and Stobart brands are a perfect match.
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Why was the 2 stobarts execs not wearing hi viz jackets walking across the yard one rule for one…
that Moe guy, the way he talked to those washer boys, i’m suprised they didnt use his head to wash all the “nooks and cranies” they know what they are doing, you stick to what you know moe and they’ll stick to what they know
might watch it next week for that stobat lass only
I watched it, the bit that stood out for me was the quote “drivers aren’t happy unless they’re moaning”. The previous nine pages of post are testament to that!
Factual inaccuracies aside, a trait of the media unfortunately, however it has done no harm to the industry. As someone pointed out, it is aimed at the younger generation. The best thing this program can do is attract new blood into the industry; it may be in years to come that the likes of Eddie Stobart are where the next generation of truckers started out.
Yeah because the younger generation see that as cool. Yeah I bet they can’t wait till their 18 so they can hopefully be the next “TOP GUN”…even my neighbours 16 year old said to me on the Saturday “you ain’t like them [zb] that where on telly last night when your at work” it’s made them look just like they… [zb]…
Nuff said!
To be fair the day driver seemed a decent guy just going in getting on with the job not trying to make himself out to be some kind of hero.
ive come across a few stobart drivers on the walking floors they come in to our yard to load woodchip for belguim most are decent guys but theres is one who could be moes brother but ive met loads of good guys in the game but plenty o knobheads too.
I’ve just read an advert for the programme in a TV mag and it says that Stobarts trucks collectively drive the equivalent distance of going to the Moon and back 3 times every day.
IIRC from my school days,the distance to the Moon is 240,000 miles.
There and back 480,000 miles, x3 = 1,440,000 miles per day!
Is this right?
How many trucks do they run for ■■■■■ sake?
Davnic:
I’ve just read an advert for the programme in a TV mag and it says that Stobarts trucks collectively drive the equivalent distance of going to the Moon and back 3 times every day.
IIRC from my school days,the distance to the Moon is 240,000 miles.
There and back 480,000 miles, x3 = 1,440,000 miles per day!
Is this right?
How many trucks do they run for [zb] sake?
Davnic:
I’ve just read an advert for the programme in a TV mag and it says that Stobarts trucks collectively drive the equivalent distance of going to the Moon and back 3 times every day.
IIRC from my school days,the distance to the Moon is 240,000 miles.
There and back 480,000 miles, x3 = 1,440,000 miles per day!
Is this right?
How many trucks do they run for [zb] sake?
Assumung that each vehicle drives for 24 hours per day without stopping at a speed of 60MPH that would work out to be running 1,000 trucks.
They claim they run 1,850 trucks (stobartgroup.co.uk/) so each truck would have to do 778 miles or an average of 32 miles per hour each hour of the day.