9pm New Year’s day.
A ■■■■■■ up Latvian drove onto the A1 near Stuhr with a 40t truck in the wrong direction.
Realizing his mistake he then tried to TURN THE TRUCK AROUND ON THE AUTOBAHN!!!
Several cars rammed the trailer as it was straddling the road and 2 people were killed.
He took off but was stopped by police a few clicks down the road.
Video report: HERE
Can they dish out the death penalty in Germany ?
Dreadfull carry on truly dreadfull.
Inselaffe:
9pm New Year’s day.A ■■■■■■ up Latvian drove onto the A1 near Stuhr with a 40t truck in the wrong direction.
Realizing his mistake he then tried to TURN THE TRUCK AROUND ON THE AUTOBAHN!!!
Several cars rammed the trailer as it was straddling the road and 2 people were killed.
He took off but was stopped by police a few clicks down the road.
Video report: HERE
it fascinates me how every incident when Eastern Europeans are to blame gets so many attention drawn to on this forum, but no other ones, even if they are much bigger… Yet, even the smallest incident, when some Eastern European driver is to blame draws a lot of attention.
I did a small experiment and checked, using the search engine, what Trucknet knows about some cases when Western European driver killed some Eastern European people. Could not find anything, so tried to search for the biggest case I remember in recent years, why speeding car driven by the Police Officer pushed polish Coach into bridge support and killed 13 people in a result. That was very loud case, my German friends I met this summer still remember this, they say it was very famous case, you must heard about it: dw.de/thirteen-killed-as-pol … -6046735-1
Guess how many entries on Trucknet? 0. And Inselaffe, you live in Germany, if you read papers or listen to the media, you HAD to hear about it… But you didn’t thought THAT was interesting enough to share on Trucknet.
Why I never hear about stories like that: polonia.wp.pl/title,WBrytania-pr … omosc.html
(A Polish passer by was hit by the black cab that then drove away).
This is how myths about bad Eastern European driving are created here: you just hear only about the cases when Eastern Europeans are to blame, and virtually never when something is happening other way round.
Orys … They/you get bad press because you’re all crap drivers 
Orys it fascinates me how you leap to the defence of eastern Europeans no matter what the crime. Even manslaughter it seems.
Maybe the op thought it interesting to “truck” net because it involved a “truck” ! Something your examples do not.
orys:
Guess how many entries on Trucknet? 0. And Inselaffe, you live in Germany, if you read papers or listen to the media, you HAD to hear about it… But you didn’t thought THAT was interesting enough to share on Trucknet.
Unfortunately, coach crashes with fatalities are quite common. The one near Berlin (caused by a random woman and not a police officer, btw) was indeed terrible but as turnip points out, this is “Trucknet” and not “Coachnet”.
I was just reporting an absolutely appalling incident involving a truck without making any personal comment.
If this post does little more than to convey the message that there are several things that are quite a bad idea if you are driving a truck, then it has been worthwhile
Furthermore orys , if their were such an incident involving a British truck I am damned sure it would be all over trucknet within hrs of it happening.
orys:
it fascinates me how every incident when Eastern Europeans are to blame gets so many attention drawn to on this forum, but no other ones, even if they are much bigger… Yet, even the smallest incident, when some Eastern European driver is to blame draws a lot of attention.
Ory’s whilst I can understand some of your frustration, in this case it wouldn’t have mattered what nationality the driver was.
Orys, I deal with many Eastern European drivers on a daily basis and 99% of the time is because they have committed an offence or are committing an offence. They have complete disregard for UK laws, from taking tacho breaks on the hard shoulder, being over hours, over weight, peeing on the hard shoulder and driving drunk. I have dealt with three collisions involving Warberer’s trucks and all three occasions the drivers were drunk. I, in nearly eight years service, have only dealt with one drunk UK truck driver. I am sure there are good Eastern European truck drivers, but in my experience, they are the minority. This is just my experience, someone else may have a different experience. And yes, I deal with UK drivers committing offences but they are generally the minority. Unfortunately Orys, the Eastern European drivers do themselves no favours and usually live up to their reputation.
Well said ^ .
and when driving in europe at the truck parks when they have something to eat normally sitting in the back of the trailer no matter what time of day out comes the bottle see it every day
Inselaffe:
Unfortunately, coach crashes with fatalities are quite common. The one near Berlin (caused by a random woman and not a police officer, btw) was indeed terrible but as turnip points out, this is “Trucknet” and not “Coachnet”.I was just reporting an absolutely appalling incident involving a truck without making any personal comment.
If this post does little more than to convey the message that there are several things that are quite a bad idea if you are driving a truck, then it has been worthwhile
She was a Police Officer, but she was driving her own car.
Anyway, if the only reason is that you reporting trucking related accident only, then in your case it’s a good explanation, which does not make my point less valid.
extrucker:
Orys, I deal with many Eastern European drivers on a daily basis and 99% of the time is because they have committed an offence or are committing an offence.
Off course, being HATO you have no point in dealing with Eastern European drivers who did not commited an offence or who aren’t in trouble. This are the joys of this line of work, when I used to be Police interpreter, in around 80% cases I was dealing with Poles commiting offence, in other 20% cases I was dealing with hate crime against Poles. But I don’t draw a conclusion, that all Poles are offenders and all Britons are racist idiots, do I?
They have complete disregard for UK laws, from taking tacho breaks on the hard shoulder
It is common in other countries - for example in Italy. I am not saying they are right in doing that here, but they are just used to do it from other places.
being over hours
Place I used to work lost most of their operator’s license for that. I was the only Pole working there and I quit because I was not happy with them trying to make me driving for longer (they never succeeded). So not the Eastern European thing either.
over weight
That, I suppose, never happen to British trucks?
peeing on the hard shoulder
I was shocked to see that when I moved to Britain, sometimes even families stop to let their kids out to pee… Stupid thing to do, but since you are the only european country I know that does not have small parkings with toilets on the motorway, I am not surprised that people choose that rather than spending 15 minutes in crowdy MSA…
and driving drunk
Again, in place I used to work my Scottish collegue was caught driving our lorry when twice over the limit. And he was caught in Highlands, where it is much less likely to be stopped… Obviously not the Eastern European thing only. .
I have dealt with three collisions involving Warberer’s trucks and all three occasions the drivers were drunk. I, in nearly eight years service, have only dealt with one drunk UK truck driver.
Statistics shows that level of drink-driving in Poland is about similar to levels of drink driving in Scotland, I am sure I posted the source here on one occasion. And the legal limit in Poland is four time lower…
I am sure there are good Eastern European truck drivers, but in my experience, they are the minority. This is just my experience, someone else may have a different experience.
I doubt it - in that line of work you mostly deal with bad ones who get themselves in trouble. When I was interpreting, majority of Poles I worked with was also people that I would not like to meet somewhere in the dark lane…
And yes, I deal with UK drivers committing offences but they are generally the minority. Unfortunately Orys, the Eastern European drivers do themselves no favours and usually live up to their reputation.
So you are suggesting, that unlike their UK counterparts, MAJORITY of Eastern Europeans commit offences, drive drunk etc?
hanson:
and when driving in europe at the truck parks when they have something to eat normally sitting in the back of the trailer no matter what time of day out comes the bottle see it every day
How is that I rarely see it, despite that for the first few years of my “driving career” I was driving in Poland? 
orys:
hanson:
and when driving in europe at the truck parks when they have something to eat normally sitting in the back of the trailer no matter what time of day out comes the bottle see it every dayHow is that I rarely see it, despite that for the first few years of my “driving career” I was driving in Poland?
i never mentioned polish drivers and i am talking generally,many a european driver also goes into a bar has a coffee with a whisky chaser or similar.
Yeah, but “picknicking out of trailer” is associated rather with Eastern European drivers, as Western are more likely to eat in restaurant
Anyway, I can’t see nothing wrong with an odd drink as long as you are limiting it so you are good to drive when it’s time to
orys:
Yeah, but “picknicking out of trailer” is associated rather with Eastern European drivers, as Western are more likely to eat in restaurantAnyway, I can’t see nothing wrong with an odd drink as long as you are limiting it so you are good to drive when it’s time to
so a coffee and a whisky chaser first thing in morning is ok
It seems to me the Eastern European drivers CANT socialize without drinking. Every time I parked in European MSA’S. They would all be piled into the backs of empty trailers, sitting around makeshift tables drinking from various bottles. ALL of them. PITA when you’re trying to kip too!
bigvern1:
It seems to me the Eastern European drivers CANT socialize without drinking. Every time I parked in European MSA’S. They would all be piled into the backs of empty trailers, sitting around makeshift tables drinking from various bottles. ALL of them. PITA when you’re trying to kip too!
From what I remember of some of the old Cafe’s and Truckstops I went to when I started work as a Driver, British truck drivers aren’t known for being teetotal and some of the best nights I remember working in motorsport involved the consumption of beer and wine.