Design and build regulations -Hgv mirrors

[thelorryist]

Right, we have received two Isuzu forward 7.5t trucks in the last month.

I need to clear up the rules on mirrors, I’m sure they are meant to have wide angle mirrors since 2009? But my last FTA book was printed in 2008… So it useless now.

I have looked on transports friend etc and it looks as though I’m right. But I want to confirm it and have a link to the rules so I can print them and show the TM

Any help you guys can offer would be great.

Forgot to mention, the trucks only have 2 mirrors. No fish eye, no kerb side and no wide angle etc. just rear viewing wing mirrors.

Cheers

[silver_surfer]

Don’t know mate but as an aside why can’t manufacturers build little motorised wiper blades on to truck mirrors, could be just vertical up and down attached to either side, fed up of cleaning mirrors then covered in cack a few hours later.

[albion1971]

thelorryist:
Right, we have received two Isuzu forward 7.5t trucks in the last month.

I need to clear up the rules on mirrors, I’m sure they are meant to have wide angle mirrors since 2009? But my last FTA book was printed in 2008… So it useless now.

I have looked on transports friend etc and it looks as though I’m right. But I want to confirm it and have a link to the rules so I can print them and show the TM

Any help you guys can offer would be great.

Forgot to mention, the trucks only have 2 mirrors. No fish eye, no kerb side and no wide angle etc. just rear viewing wing mirrors.

Cheers

I doubt Isuzu would put illegal mirrors on their trucks.I am sure they know the rules.

[bluenose]

theextrafoot.com/Documents/R … irrors.pdf

[8wheels]

One of our customers bought a new Hino 7.5t, I asked why it was at the auto electrician next to our yard. No fog light

[spectron]

8wheels:
One of our customers bought a new Hino 7.5t, I asked why it was at the auto electrician next to our yard. No fog light

Must have been am import then.

[trev_h]

albion1971:

thelorryist:
Right, we have received two Isuzu forward 7.5t trucks in the last month.

I need to clear up the rules on mirrors, I’m sure they are meant to have wide angle mirrors since 2009? But my last FTA book was printed in 2008… So it useless now.

I have looked on transports friend etc and it looks as though I’m right. But I want to confirm it and have a link to the rules so I can print them and show the TM

Any help you guys can offer would be great.

Forgot to mention, the trucks only have 2 mirrors. No fish eye, no kerb side and no wide angle etc. just rear viewing wing mirrors.

Cheers

I doubt Isuzu would put illegal mirrors on their trucks.I am sure they know the rules.

Ha ha, yeah right !

[8wheels]

spectron:

8wheels:
One of our customers bought a new Hino 7.5t, I asked why it was at the auto electrician next to our yard. No fog light

Must have been am import then.

It was dealer sourced.

[norb]

Silver_Surfer:
Don’t know mate but as an aside why can’t manufacturers build little motorised wiper blades on to truck mirrors, could be just vertical up and down attached to either side, fed up of cleaning mirrors then covered in cack a few hours later.

they probably could as the military have said wipers on vision blocks on armoured vehicles…but could you imagine the cost of a broken mirror

[knight]

If not wipers why not just a washer like they do with headlights. A washer on the mirrors would be a lot more use than on the headlights, I don’t look through the headlights.

[harry_monk]

Silver_Surfer:
Don’t know mate but as an aside why can’t manufacturers build little motorised wiper blades on to truck mirrors, could be just vertical up and down attached to either side, fed up of cleaning mirrors then covered in cack a few hours later.

That’s bizarre, I was thinking the very same thing today, cars have headlight washer/ wipers, it can hardly be rocket science for truck mirrors to have the same.

[gembo]

Our Taunton depot has one of those Isuzu 7.5’s, pretty sure its the same as yours, only one mirror each side. Its about 3 year old IIRC.

[8wheels]

Harry Monk:

Silver_Surfer:
Don’t know mate but as an aside why can’t manufacturers build little motorised wiper blades on to truck mirrors, could be just vertical up and down attached to either side, fed up of cleaning mirrors then covered in cack a few hours later.

That’s bizarre, I was thinking the very same thing today, cars have headlight washer/ wipers, it can hardly be rocket science for truck mirrors to have the same.

Or an air curtain of some type to keep water off them.

[thelorryist]

bluenose:
http://www.theextrafoot.com/Documents/Retro-Fit%20of%20Mirrors.pdf

This is what I was after. Thank you, I was right

Both of them are 62 plates. There are bolts above the passenger door as if the body builders or sign company haven’t fitted them back on

Now the only thing I can think of is this "no less than 2.00m rule +/- 10cm

Cause I can reach the roof of the truck. Maybe this is the reason

I shall carry a lengthometer with me next week and check

[d4c24a]

Harry Monk:

Silver_Surfer:
Don’t know mate but as an aside why can’t manufacturers build little motorised wiper blades on to truck mirrors, could be just vertical up and down attached to either side, fed up of cleaning mirrors then covered in cack a few hours later.

That’s bizarre, I was thinking the very same thing today, cars have headlight washer/ wipers, it can hardly be rocket science for truck mirrors to have the same.

the old motorway foden gritters had them on

[silver_surfer]

I’d pay to spec them if they worked properly, I’m sure Scania could knock something decent out with a jet of screen wash as well. Coming down the m6 this eve, couldn’t see hardly anything in the mirrors.

Was a few crashes heading north probably down to people not being able to see out of their mirrors.

[suedehead]

A bit of rag tied onto the mirror arm, about an inch wide and six inches long used to do the trick.

[davhems]

it is something to do with cab height may not need them ive worked on 3500 kg spec lift recovery trucks with same cab and they dont have them on

[own_account_driver]

Think there’s something similar with the front mirrors too as obviously if you’re low enough down you can see anyone walking in front.

The main thing they seemed to be worried about when they introduced it is being able to see pedestrians in the areas round the vehicle on the diagram they produced. With most of the ‘compliant’ mirrors you can adjust them so that’s the case but it often isn’t the same as drivers have them adjusted for normal driving and reversing. Fresnel lens is still the best solution for spotting pedestrians and cyclists in the main blind spot I think.

[harry_monk]

Suedehead:
A bit of rag tied onto the mirror arm, about an inch wide and six inches long used to do the trick.

Yep, that’s what I’ve just done, cut up an old T-shirt into lengths and tied them to the mirror arms. Not seen it done for 20 years but as you say it used to do the trick. I’ll report back tomorrow.