It’s well written and has a dig at the system.
like you can get 2 for 1
I would be against it but not in the way you think.
Compared to spending your life locked up and confined or ending you life in 5 minutes they are giving people a easy way out
My two reasons against it are :
(i) as you’ve said, it’s a quick way out of a life-time of paying for what you did, and
(ii) I don’t have sufficient confidence in the system’s (in)ability to prevent a miscarriage of justice, look at Andrew Malkinson, or the Post Office scandal
Anyone who prefers to inflict the deliberate and needless cruelty of confinement v a quick humane end says more about them.Its effectively the motive and support of torture for revenge.That isn’t justice.How far do you want to take it.
Bury them alive but with an air tube ?.
Normally I find you mildly amusing, but not today: there is no “needless cruelty” for the incarceration of people such as: Ian Huntley, Lucy Letby, Levi Bellfield, Rose West, Roy Whiting, and many others. They deserve to live a long, miserable existence and be constantly reminded how society feels about them.
If you think any of those people deserve “mercy” in the form of a quick end to their existence, you’re even more deranged than most of us already believe.
You obviously missed the point of the final sentence.By definition of its content I obviously get the revenge thing but being able to put that aside, or at least remove that motivation, is what separates us from medieval savages and being as much of a psychopath as the criminals.Its also why we don’t have a justice system based on revenge for the victim by those closest to the victim.Effectively you’re just pushing an agenda of psychological torture for revenge.
Way I see it is that this is obviously a very complex subject, which (for again obvious reasons) should be taken very seriously (just for a moment 
) and the decision whether or not you are for or against the death penalty, should not be taken lightly or flippantlly.
(Even by me…aka Mr Flippant, who takes very little seriously on the whole tbh.
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Those who nonchalantly say ‘I’m all for it’ just have not thought it through on the whole imo, not all people who have killed deserve to die.
As somebody said ‘Faith in the system’ or lack of it, where there have been numerous miscarriages of justice has to be considered .
Thr ‘Birmingham bombers’,. ‘The Guildford 4’, the guy (whose name escapes me) who was wrongly hanged in the 50s or 60s, …and presumably a few more who suffered the same fate around that time pre advanced forensics etc.
My personal opinion on it is this…
I am in favour of a death sentence for murder, but only in some cases, not in general.
Some of the names mentioned, Ian Huntley, Roy Whiting, Robert Black,.and other child murdering paedophilic scum, do not deserve to live and breathe the same air as decent people,.a quick bullet in the back of the neck would be their just desserts…
Jeez I would glady do it myself if one of mine was their victim.
As for the aforementioned ‘Giving them time to think about their crimes’ and/or ‘A quick way out of paying for what they did’…I reckon the threat of death facing them for a year or 18 months while full investigations (beyond ALL doubt, 100% as an absolute !) where their (deserved) mental suffering would be kicking in as a result, would adequately compensate for that, it would ‘condense’ that time of them thinking about it essentially …not to mention a break for tax funds spent on maintaining these pieces of ■■■■ 's lives for 20 or 30 years.
(Incidentally on a tangent, my theory is that Myra Hindley did not die but was released under a new identity.)
Terrorists?..
Again yes, and why not ? when perfectly innocent people are maimed and killed.
The Manchester and London bombers and the Lee Rigby murderers spring to mind
Police killers, the likes of Harry Roberts, kept alive since the 60s ffs!
The threat of death would be a bloody good deterent for the next guy pointing a gun or knife at a copper just doing his job.
As for any murders where there is a shadow of ambiguity or doubt, or crimes of ‘passion’ , or self defence gone wrong etc?
I think the present system of being judged on their individual merits and circumstances would (and do) work well.
But as I keep saying to Frangers when he gets so agitated and carried away with political ‘stuff’ , (I really need to stop making bullets for him snd winding him up btw )… It does not matter a ■■■■ what you and me think.
The Establishment, the Politicians will do and decide whatever tf they think or like, instead of doing what they are voted in to do…represent the electorate.
So just keep pi55ing against the wind on all this political stuff, be mildly frustrated on some subjects, but dont take them (too) seriously, it is better for your state of mind, health and well being.
Save it for those who are (grossly over)paid to deal with such things.
Anyhoo…my serious head is now being screwed off and changed back to my usual head.
I’m in favour of a death penalty with the following caveats:
Must be a 12-0 Jury verdict
Must involve one of the following crimes:
Mass Murder (3 or more persons, don’t have to be from same family)
Murder of Children
Corporate Manslaughter involving deaths in excess of 100 within one week of the incident.
I’m warming also to the idea of the death penalty for “Single murder of any first responder”. Eg. Knife a cop, break neck of Medic, shoot a firefighter…
It must NOT be for
Political Thought Crimes (Eg. for Conspiracy Theorists, Anti-Vaxxers, Nationalists, Patriots, Non-Mainstream Voters, etc.)
No, I’m supporting the system that removes dangerous people from society for the benefit of the majority.
Death will definitely and immediately remove anyone from society and this world.Ironically it’s not often anyone puts the humanitarian case for the death penalty.
The hypocrisy of the “Establishment” is that they’ll say “No, you cannot have the death penalty back, even for mass murdering paedophiles” - maybe because they just wanna cover themselves?
The argument most often put forward by the anti-death penalty crowd is that “It’s too risky an innocent will go to the gallows”… No mention of the miscarriage of justice that often has the Deep State’s hand all over it to get that far…
This is why I suggest “Jury 12:0” and only for certain crimes…
One could even add the “veto” factor where any single juror among the 12:0 could demand a “whole of life tarrif” rather than proceed with an otherwise intended “Let the law take it’s course”…
Would there really always be at least ONE “Objector” should that caveat of Veto ever come to be used?
How would a public jury have treated say, Wayne Couzens, for example?, armed with a choice of “Whole of life tariff” or “The Drop”…?
…Or Beverley Allit, Lucy Letby, Harold Shipman, Ian Huntley, Ian Brady, come to that?
All moot when you also include a veto regarding the humanitarian case for the convicted being given the choice between long term incarceration or euthanasia by hypoxia.
My guess is not many would choose the former.
I dunno if death by suffocation is anything to go out of one’s way for?
Give it go Winseer, and let us know.
DIY method would be to mix Domestos with Peroxide in a confined space…
There you go… You got me sounding like Trump now…
I can see you have looked into this.
Things aint so bad mate…just take life in your stride.
Yep.
Equally mad as Trump.
**?**Peroxide…Hydrogen-peroxide?
Bleach and hydrogen-peroxide produces oxygen gas I think. And chlorine gas compounds.
Comes under the bat-■■■■-crazy category of chemistry.
Nasty poisonous gases, and explosion risk at the same time.
I thought we were talking about asphyxiation here?
The Oxygen comes from the decomposing perxide as a by-product.
The main gas produced will be elemental chlorine, which will displace everything breathable, hence causing asphyxiation, as well as causing damage at the same time.
I’m pretty sure that chlorine gas isn’t produced.
However if you are correct and free chlorine is produced, the Oxygen will ensure you survive long enough to enjoy the melting eyes, coughing, nausea, skin irritation, vomiting, and coughing up blood, that the Chlorine will produce as it kills you.
Free Chlorine is produced by oxidation of any liquid Chlorinated product, in this case a mixture of Sodium Hypoclorite and Chlorous Acid being oxidized to Lye (Sodium Hydroxide), Chlorine gas, and Oxygen Gas with a water residue
Hypoxia ain’t the same thing as suffocation.Go out on a drunken high followed by a long sleep.Its more or less the only way to go where the unfortunate convict literally goes out laughing and so ■■■■■■ they don’t care.