J T Leyland, Milnthorpe
Volvo FL10 rigid
M632 TAO
Seen at Wigton, ■■■■■■■■ April 2013
Regards
CG
It wasnt just livestock that we transported , - we delivered the farmers feedstuffs too.
Here is my Karrier Bantam , PEC 123 L , loaded with 4.5 tons of cattle feed , destined to a farm near Sedbergh .
There was a a very long and narrow lane to negotiate to reach the equally-small farmyard.
Photographed on a Saturday morning in 1977, sheeted only to prevent the bags from being torn open by the unkempt hedges .
I dont think ■■■■■■■■ Gill would have managed to drive this Bantam , as the steering was non-assisted. The feed bags also weighed 56 lbs. each, and too heavy for todays junior drivers.
Cheers, cattle wagon man.
cattle wagon man:
It wasnt just livestock that we transported , - we delivered the farmersfeedstuffs too.
Here is my Karrier Bantam , PEC 123 L , loaded with 4.5 tons of cattle feed , destined to a farm near Sedbergh .
There was a a very long and narrow lane to negotiate to reach the equally-small farmyard.
Photographed on a Saturday morning in 1977, sheeted only to prevent the bags from being torn open by the unkempt hedges .I don
t think ■■■■■■■■ Gill would have managed to drive this Bantam , as the steering was non-assisted. The feed bags also weighed 56 lbs. each, and too heavy for todays junior drivers.Cheers, cattle wagon man.
Did you ever deliver into Ernie Middletons warehouse/Mill up in Lowgill Roy,Tommy Coward used to try and get us to bring Ernies proven from Liverpool,we did a few loads for him but it wasn’t our kind of traffic,Ernie was a grand old fella though,I don’t know when he would retire,in the early '70’s I would think.Cheers Dennis.
cattle wagon man:
It wasnt just livestock that we transported , - we delivered the farmersfeedstuffs too.
Here is my Karrier Bantam , PEC 123 L , loaded with 4.5 tons of cattle feed , destined to a farm near Sedbergh .
There was a a very long and narrow lane to negotiate to reach the equally-small farmyard.
Photographed on a Saturday morning in 1977, sheeted only to prevent the bags from being torn open by the unkempt hedges .I don
t think ■■■■■■■■ Gill would have managed to drive this Bantam , as the steering was non-assisted. The feed bags also weighed 56 lbs. each, and too heavy for todays junior drivers.Cheers, cattle wagon man.
56 lbs Roy,a bloody kid could carry those.My Dad drove for an animal feed firm for over forty years,and I was carrying over a cwt up granary steps at 12 years old in the school holidays.A lot of the sacks were 2 cwt and some were catch-weight which were more.
I drove a BMC FG with no power steering at 19 carrying more weight than that,also a TK at 14 ton gross.
You didn’t know you were born living up there earning good money with the family firm. 
Cheers Dae.
Youd be hard-pressed to have met a kinder chap than Ernie Middleton, Dennis. Ernie owned a bonnetted Morris-Commercial ( LC 3 ? ). He had rubber front mudguards fitted , and heavier single rear wheels so he could drive over the very narrow ( 6 3" between walls ) Crook o` Lune bridge near his home.
I think that after Coward Bros. finished haulage , Ernie collected from Sedbergh, but I cant remember who brought the cattle feed to there. Bob Walling from Crosthwaite (?), maybe ,.......but Im not too sure.
Ernie parted with his beloved Morris ( reg. no. JM 9845 ) around 1972/3 , and he bought a s/h B.M.C. FG 3 tonner.
This newer vehicle was unable to traverse the narrow bridge , so we took over his farming customers on the Howgill side of the River Lune. I think Ernie retired around 1976, and he died in the early 1990`s.
You may remember the FG , as Sedbergh butcher Garth Steadman bought it from Ernie , to transport his trotting horses .
A small world , isn`t it , Dennis !
Cheers, cattle wagon man.
Dave the Renegade:
cattle wagon man:
It wasnt just livestock that we transported , - we delivered the farmersfeedstuffs too.
Here is my Karrier Bantam , PEC 123 L , loaded with 4.5 tons of cattle feed , destined to a farm near Sedbergh .
There was a a very long and narrow lane to negotiate to reach the equally-small farmyard.
Photographed on a Saturday morning in 1977, sheeted only to prevent the bags from being torn open by the unkempt hedges .I don
t think ■■■■■■■■ Gill would have managed to drive this Bantam , as the steering was non-assisted. The feed bags also weighed 56 lbs. each, and too heavy for todays junior drivers.Cheers, cattle wagon man.
56 lbs Roy,a bloody kid could carry those.My Dad drove for an animal feed firm for over forty years,and I was carrying over a cwt up granary steps at 12 years old in the school holidays.A lot of the sacks were 2 cwt and some were catch-weight which were more.
I drove a BMC FG with no power steering at 19 carrying more weight than that,also a TK at 14 ton gross.
You didn’t know you were born living up there earning good money with the family firm.
Cheers Dae.
Hi Dave,
Aye, 56 lbs. was an easy lightweight to carry, - but by picking-up 2 bags at a time , the load was shifted in
half the time . 
Beet pulp was in 80 lbs. bags , - but they were too bulky to carry two together.
Did you ever carry (■■) the 20 stone rolled barley/oats in bulky hessian sacks? Now,…they were chuffinheavy . :open_mouth: Only eight - yes eight - to the ton. I only moved a couple of loads of those back-breakingpre-Vanessa Feltz masses. When I commented to the Warehouseman of the extreme energy needed to lift them , his suggestion was : " Get thysel into Kendal on a Saturday evening , and find thysel a 20 stone lass for the neet . When thee comes here for the next load next week , thall have had some practice at handling these bags better " !! :blush: :unamused: Bl**dy Hell, thats Saturday night punishment,… not pleasure, Dave. 
I was 18 years old then !
Cheers, cattle wagon man.
cattle wagon man:
Youd be hard-pressed to have met a kinder chap than Ernie Middleton, Dennis. Ernie owned a bonnetted Morris-Commercial ( LC 3 ? ). He had rubber front mudguards fitted , and heavier single rear wheels so he could drive over the very narrow ( 63" between walls ) Crook o` Lune bridge near his home.I think that after Coward Bros. finished haulage , Ernie collected from Sedbergh, but I can
t remember who brought the cattle feed to there. Bob Walling from Crosthwaite (?), maybe ,.......but Im not too sure.Ernie parted with his beloved Morris ( reg. no. JM 9845 ) around 1972/3 , and he bought a s/h B.M.C. FG 3 tonner.
This newer vehicle was unable to traverse the narrow bridge , so we took over his farming customers on the Howgill side of the River Lune. I think Ernie retired around 1976, and he died in the early 1990`s.You may remember the FG , as Sedbergh butcher Garth Steadman bought it from Ernie , to transport his trotting horses .
A small world , isn`t it , Dennis !Cheers, cattle wagon man.
Tommy Steadman moved from a little farm near Ireby (■■■■■■■■■■■ in the mid 50’s to Sedbergh so I have known Garth for many years but not seen him since the early 80’s when we were both harness racing,I think he gave the sport up around that time and I think he has retired now from the the Butchery trade.Cheers Dennis.
Spot on there Dave with bag weights, while 112 ils (1cwt) for the young uns were the norm, 10 stone bags of flour and 2cwt 224lbs bags of malting barley all to be handballed off a chute or elevator or even off the platform floor after being dumped there by (zb) dockers out of a sling. Loading 10 or 15 tons of BOCM cattle nuts in 1cwt bags was was a piece of cake at Selby or Trafford Park mills with the chute at the right hight for your shoulder. A four wheeler could be loaded in about 25 mins with 10 tons and an 8 wheeler with 15 ton in about 45mins no bother at all. All this at 7-0 am after getting up at 2-30am and running down to the mill. Load and set off back home about 8-30 after sheeting and roping and a bite to eat. Dinner on the bonnet at Warcop then run to the West ■■■■ Farmers depot to unload or deliver to 2 or 3 local farms back to yard, washdown, fill up and home for supper, bed and up again at 2-30am to repeat the process once more. All done with an Albion Chieftain at 38 mph flat out. Paper log books ■■? and a rubber.
Happy Days, Leyland 600.
hodgeturbo:
braystones beach
What were you scounging about down there for Hodge ? a load of seacoal or summat ? Cheers Dennis.
IIRC this is a late '79 shot in the Milnthorpe depot,bit of a cross section of the fleet with an intermingling of Fell motors among the Red and Whites,who parked them ■■■■■■■ motors up like that,who? right in the office now ! 
Cheers Bewick.
■■■■■■■■ gill:
J T Leyland, MilnthorpeVolvo FL10 rigid
M632 TAO
Seen at Wigton, ■■■■■■■■ April 2013
Regards
CG
Good to see JT’s motors, which are still using, turning up in the old timer section
Heres a photo of the “newer” motors. My FH on the left all clean and coupled up for Monday morning, my old DAF (which I wish I still had) and Lol Vareys old Actros.
Also found this photo of T Bradys of either a Bedford or Austin?
Bewick:
IIRC this is a late '79 shot in the Milnthorpe depot,bit of a cross section of the fleet with an intermingling of Fell motors among the Red and Whites,who parked them [zb] motors up like that,who? right in the office now !
I thought the Fell motors would have been parked on the oposite side of the yard Dennis 
Ive always thought this was a tidy looking Scania
Ste Burrow:
Bewick:
IIRC this is a late '79 shot in the Milnthorpe depot,bit of a cross section of the fleet with an intermingling of Fell motors among the Red and Whites,who parked them [zb] motors up like that,who? right in the office now !I thought the Fell motors would have been parked on the oposite side of the yard Dennis
Ive always thought this was a tidy looking Scania
I’ll agree with you there Steve,IMHO,this was the finest Scania ever built and as good as anything on the road to-day! Cheers Dennis.
Agreeded the older Scanias are the best. The new Scanias are rather uncomfortable and not as well pit together as a Volvo, not that new Volvos are any good either. Give me an F12 over an FH any day.
Ste Burrow:
Agreeded the older Scanias are the best. The new Scanias are rather uncomfortable and not as well pit together as a Volvo, not that new Volvos are any good either. Give me an F12 over an FH any day.
Now then Steve,the Volvo was never in the same league as the Scania,can’t comment on to-days motors but in my era it was “no contest” as far as I was concerned at Bewick Transport.Cheers Dennis.
Well modern motors a topline v8 Scania would be a ■■■■ site better than a Volvo. Altho Id much prefer a DAF. Not your cup of tea if i remember as the older DAFs (2800-3300 etc) could be rather thirsty.
Hello
Who managed to get to the Carlisle truck Show then today?
Excellent show (when the weather improved). Good turn out of local hauliers too
Kindest regards
CG
cattle wagon man:
Dave the Renegade:
cattle wagon man:
It wasnt just livestock that we transported , - we delivered the farmersfeedstuffs too.
Here is my Karrier Bantam , PEC 123 L , loaded with 4.5 tons of cattle feed , destined to a farm near Sedbergh .
There was a a very long and narrow lane to negotiate to reach the equally-small farmyard.
Photographed on a Saturday morning in 1977, sheeted only to prevent the bags from being torn open by the unkempt hedges .I don
t think ■■■■■■■■ Gill would have managed to drive this Bantam , as the steering was non-assisted. The feed bags also weighed 56 lbs. each, and too heavy for todays junior drivers.Cheers, cattle wagon man.
56 lbs Roy,a bloody kid could carry those.My Dad drove for an animal feed firm for over forty years,and I was carrying over a cwt up granary steps at 12 years old in the school holidays.A lot of the sacks were 2 cwt and some were catch-weight which were more.
I drove a BMC FG with no power steering at 19 carrying more weight than that,also a TK at 14 ton gross.
You didn’t know you were born living up there earning good money with the family firm.
Cheers Dae.Hi Dave,
Aye, 56 lbs. was an easy lightweight to carry, - but by picking-up 2 bags at a time , the load was shifted in
half the time .Did you ever carry (■■) the 20 stone rolled barley/oats in bulky hessian sacks? Now,…they were chuffin
heavy . :open_mouth: Only eight - yes eight - to the ton. I only moved a couple of loads of those back-breakingpre-Vanessa Feltzmasses. When I commented to the Warehouseman of the extreme energy needed to lift them , his suggestion was : " Get thyselinto Kendal on a Saturday evening , and find thysel a 20 stone lass for the neet . When thee comes here for the next load next week , thall have had some practice at handling these bags better " !! :blush: :unamused: Bl**dy Hell, thats Saturday night punishment,… not pleasure, Dave.Cheers, cattle wagon man.
Hi Roy,
Yes carried all the various weights,was even daft enough to carry two ton of cement across a field with two -one cwt bags at a time on my shoulder,but I grew up doing manual work helping my Dad on a lorry,also sawing wood with a bow saw and helping on the local farms.The kids of today would not know how to put a pikel or pitchfork into a bale,let alone pitch it onto a trailer or a lorry.
Its a different day and age with health & safety and handling and lifting laws which were unheard of in our day.When I had my accident it stood me in good stead,the consultant said to my Mother he’s young and fit and a none smoker,so hard work did help in my case.
Cheers Dave.
