manalishi:
I would rather hear from blokes with real-time experiences, especially Euro-vets. Chaps who’ve done serious lorrying across the Alps in all conditions, weathers, they would be the perfect antidote to latter day corporate-solutioning, toytown trucking boreathons where pompous H&S BS takes precedence over life n death, blood,sweat and tears situations that underpins serious 3&6 day hauls in Europe. Done a couple of years miself and one year of that game l can safely say equals 5 years over here in terms of demands and character building experiences placed on drivers. Especially fridges Veterans don’t need some smarmball, pencil-neck, browbeating everyone to death with their scintillating routines. The only thing l learned from my last caper was the financial advantages gained by flogging womens used smalls on E-Bay. I sheet thee not. Not followed it up l hasten to add It’s too disruptive, teaches jack and although an interesting concept it has failed to be painted black in terms of effectiveness imho.
manalishi:
I would rather hear from blokes with real-time experiences, especially Euro-vets. Chaps who’ve done serious lorrying across the Alps in all conditions, weathers, they would be the perfect antidote to latter day corporate-solutioning, toytown trucking boreathons where pompous H&S BS takes precedence over life n death, blood,sweat and tears situations that underpins serious 3&6 day hauls in Europe. Done a couple of years miself and one year of that game l can safely say equals 5 years over here in terms of demands and character building experiences placed on drivers. Especially fridges Veterans don’t need some smarmball, pencil-neck, browbeating everyone to death with their scintillating routines. The only thing l learned from my last caper was the financial advantages gained by flogging womens used smalls on E-Bay. I sheet thee not. Not followed it up l hasten to add It’s too disruptive, teaches jack and although an interesting concept it has failed to be painted black in terms of effectiveness imho.
You can get that sort of course, absolutely free of charge, at most truckstops and RDC waiting rooms. Just look out for the bloke with the Spanish arrows in his cab window, buy him a coffee, sit back and listen. By the time you’ve been there an hour it will seem like you’ve done seven.
fridger:
Instead you can sit 5 manual handling courses and crack on not having the first idea about anything that will help you avoid fines, points or jail. You know, useful lorry stuff like tacho rules, load security, daily checks that involve more than building some air up.
You’ll be pleased to know that can’t happen anymore, not since November last year: No more repetition of the same course in one 35 hour block, and JAUPT/DVSA actively monitor this, DCPC providers who allow the repetition get bureaucratic grief from them (which is far worse than it sounds)
D.Thompson:
I doubt many drivers have to pay so the vast number of those complaining about DCPC are doing it for other reasons.
Virtually every agency, s/e and ltd co driver has had to pay out of their own pocket, me included. Even some PAYE employed full-timers have to pay for it themselves as I worked at a place where that was the case.
D.Thompson:
I doubt many drivers have to pay so the vast number of those complaining about DCPC are doing it for other reasons.
Virtually every agency, s/e and ltd co driver has had to pay out of their own pocket, me included. Even some PAYE employed full-timers have to pay for it themselves as I worked at a place where that was the case.
D.Thompson:
I doubt many drivers have to pay so the vast number of those complaining about DCPC are doing it for other reasons.
Virtually every agency, s/e and ltd co driver has had to pay out of their own pocket, me included. Even some PAYE employed full-timers have to pay for it themselves as I worked at a place where that was the case.
Are you suggesting more drivers pay than don’t?
No. I am suggesting that your claim of “I doubt many drivers have to pay” is somewhat wide of the mark.
D.Thompson:
I doubt many drivers have to pay so the vast number of those complaining about DCPC are doing it for other reasons.
Virtually every agency, s/e and ltd co driver has had to pay out of their own pocket, me included. Even some PAYE employed full-timers have to pay for it themselves as I worked at a place where that was the case.
Are you suggesting more drivers pay than don’t?
No. I am suggesting that your claim of “I doubt many drivers have to pay” is somewhat wide of the mark.
That may be the case, when i was on my 5 day course only two were paying for it themselves so i assumed the majority of drivers didn’t pay, there haven’t been many drivers saying they have to pay in the various DCPC threads which also made me assume my original statement was correct, it would be interesting to see what percentage of drivers do pay i have searched and have failed so far, maybe the resident instructor could fill in the gaps.
I did some asking, and yes, pilots must know how to refuel their aircraft (even large commercial airliners). They even set the refuelling panel (airliners have refuelling systems that control where and how much fuel is loaded in each tank). They even know how to connect the hoses, but commercial airlines tend to have the refuellers do that part. Aircraft are either refuelled from bowsers or pressurized refuelling points in the ground, depending on the size of the airport.
Do the crash stats separate fatals that were definitely caused by the loss of a load, vs. 2- or 4-wheelers doing something dumb to cause a crash?
Where I used to live had a road nearby that carried a lot of HGV traffic. Most fatals there involving trucks was because some 4-wheeled idiot was overtaking when they shouldn’t, and all I can say is I’m sorry for the truck they hit.
Veterans don’t need some smarmball, pencil-neck, browbeating everyone to death with their scintillating routines. The only thing l learned from my last caper was the financial advantages gained by flogging womens used smalls on E-Bay. I sheet thee not. Not followed it up l hasten to add
It’s too disruptive, teaches jack and although an interesting concept it has failed to be painted black in terms of effectiveness imho.
