Right lets start with a bit of background to this:
I am employed as a casual driver for a very large multi national company and my contract says that they will provide my cpc training - which the have been.
I’ve been employed by them since 2016. Before that, the company I worked for never provided cpc training so I had to do it myself and as such I kept on top of it.
Now today by sheer chance I looked at my cpc card only to find its expired! After checking on the government website it looks like I’m one module short.
If my company provides my cpc training I would’ve thought they’d monitor it and then provide me with training as and when I needed it. Is this generally what happens with large firms? I can’t imagine they leave it all down to their drivers cos there are always gonna be idiots such as myself that forget about it. I haven’t even had any sort of reminder from the dvsa which I think is a bit odd. Is this normal as well?
I’ve emailed my Transport Manager and I guess he’s gonna go up the pole when he finds out as I cant drive now until its sorted.
If it is down to me then so be it, but I was just under the impression that as my contract says the company will provide the training then they will monitor and keep on top of it.
If it states in your contract they will provide cpc training then that’s fair enough, however things can get missed out as nothing is infallible. Our company does keep a check on people cpc hours but also insist we also make sure we are compliant and not likely to not be able to drive.
I guess it depends on what exactly your contract states about it especially the monitoring part.
What is it with the new generation?
Take some responsibility for your own actions FFS.
It’s your licence, it’s your responsibility, you must be an adult to hold an LGV licence so start acting like one and stop applying for membership of the “blame culture” that’s rife in 20th century Britain.
It’s nobody else’s fault, it’s yours!
Then it looks like it’s down to them and they will have to pay to stay at home until you’ve done the last module or they will have to give you no driving work to do in the meantime. Although I’m sure they might not be happy that you have also failed to keep an eye on it.
I’d assume they meant that to be read as they’d do driving licence checks not DCPC checks. To the best of my understanding, they should do 6 monthly checks & if you’ve become ineligible they should stop you driving, I’m not aware of any obligation for them to do things the driver is supposed to be doing to keep his/her entitlement current.
I’m surprised that a large multinational company don’t have a system in place to alert them to expired CPC entitlement, even the agency I work for monitor this as well as driving licence expiry dates- they phoned me a few weeks ago to tell me that my driving licence would expire shortly (which I knew already) but I don’t think they are under any obligation to.
Grumpy_old_trucker:
What is it with the new generation?
Take some responsibility for your own actions FFS.
It’s your licence, it’s your responsibility, you must be an adult to hold an LGV licence so start acting like one and stop applying for membership of the “blame culture” that’s rife in 20th century Britain.
It’s nobody else’s fault, it’s yours!
I’ve been driving since 2008 mate! And if you read my post properly you would’ve seen that up until my current job I was fully on top of my CPC as I knew it was down to me as my previous employer would not pay for it. It’s only since 2016 when I started working for my current employer that I thought they monitored it as they provide the training. I have also stated that if it is down to me then so be it!
I love coming on here cos everyone is just so perfect and no one ever makes any mistakes. I didnt think it would be long before morons like you started spouting off. Please accept my apologies for being human and making a mistake. It must be awesome being perfect.
If he feels not having a DQC is the same as not having a valid driving licence (which it essentially is) then you’ll have unknowingly made him commit one of the Seven Deadly Sins of an O-licence holder and you might need to brace yourself for some serious grief.
Zac_A:
If he feels not having a DQC is the same as not having a valid driving licence (which it essentially is) then you’ll have unknowingly made him commit one of the Seven Deadly Sins of an O-licence holder and you might need to brace yourself for some serious grief.
That page doesn’t mention lack of a driver’s CPC card, and in any event there is no obligation on the TM to notify the TC of the situation.
I’m a bit puzzled by this…
“(b) Exceeding, during a daily working period, the maximum daily driving time limit by a margin of 50% or more without taking a break or without an uninterrupted rest period of at least 4.5 hours”.
What is an uninterrupted rest period of at least 4.5 hours?
Grumpy_old_trucker:
stop applying for membership of the “blame culture” that’s rife in 20th century Britain.
It’s nobody else’s fault, it’s yours!
Oh dear, looks like Mr perfect is stuck in the wrong century! I suggest you check the expiry dates on your licence, digi card, cpc etc as we have been in the 21st century for past 20 years!!!
Zac_A:
If he feels not having a DQC is the same as not having a valid driving licence (which it essentially is) then you’ll have unknowingly made him commit one of the Seven Deadly Sins of an O-licence holder and you might need to brace yourself for some serious grief.
That page doesn’t mention lack of a driver’s CPC card, and in any event there is no obligation on the TM to notify the TC of the situation.
I’m a bit puzzled by this…
“(b) Exceeding, during a daily working period, the maximum daily driving time limit by a margin of 50% or more without taking a break or without an uninterrupted rest period of at least 4.5 hours”.
What is an uninterrupted rest period of at least 4.5 hours?
Uninterrupted rest period of at least 4.5hrs?
Thats my normal coffee break. . But youre right Harry, if the “LorryLawyer” is writing this, on their website, the link to their clientele…?
Well it would seem I’ve got a very understanding boss. Just spoke to him and he was just as bewildered as me about it. I think words have been had with the training / tachograph department as it would appear they should’ve picked up on it.
He’s got me booked on a course tomorrow and as it happens I’m on my days off from my full time job so I can go in and do it - result!
I was half expecting at the very least to be disciplined over it if not dismissed as I guess it amounts to gross misconduct, but he has stood by me and got it sorted which I’m really pleased about.
I have learnt a very valuable lesson from this - it doesn’t matter how big a company you work for or how much they say they will take care of your training, never put your full trust in them as mistakes happen. I will be keeping a firm eye on my cpc from now on just as I did with previous employers.
I guess I’ve just been very very lucky this time!
£1000 fine for not having a valid DQC card. It’s £100 fine if you have a valid one and not carrying it with you!
We all make mistakes. Have you got the web site login to check? Did they send you your password in time?
Yeah very lucky. I was reading up on the consequences yesterday when I found out.
After I looked at my card I then logged on to the government site which then confirmed that I was one module short.
I guess I’ve been lucky as well that my company just happens to be running a course tomorrow and that I’m able to attend due to being on my days off from my normal job. God knows when the next course is if I couldn’t attend.