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they always worked for the 40 + years i have driven, keeping the truck upright, with no harsh braking helps
hotel magnum:
they always worked for the 40 + years i have driven, keeping the truck upright, with no harsh braking helps
+1
Only 38 years in though
It takes a lot of force to make something heavy that’s not on wheels shift. On old trucks back in the so called golden age there probably wasn’t enough braking force from the truck to actually create a harsh enough brake to send something heavy flying forward. A modern truck can brake hard enough to shift a load so DVSA would probably say no to your question. Your never going to accelerate hard enough forward to create enough force to shift a heavy load backwards, and as long as you don’t corner too fast again you aren’t create enough Gs to send a heavy load sideways. In fact your much more likely to shift a light load with normal driving than you are a heavy load as it takes less G forces to shift something light than it does to shift something heavy.
To be fair it’ll generally involve more than ‘a’ pass of rope over it and ‘a’ dolly knot.
Certainly more than one pass in the case of each line of pallets or stillages for example.Usually use every hook along the deck and the length of the load.
Sometimes use a spread dolly between hooks.Or double dollies for more pulling force if required.The amount and spread of lashings available is an advantage of using ropes v ratchet straps.
I am sure carryfast or winseer will tell you 
Personally yes course it would, but I think VOSA Will disagree
These are the types of situations that “Well there’s only one way to find out” was invented for
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Yes you can.
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No it won’t be legal in the eyes of Vosa.
Everything is ratchet or XL restraints now, doesn’t matter if produce has been hauled from A to B for decades on a dolly safely it’s there way or else…
Highways agency have multiple 4x4’s up and down the network picking Up knackered ratchet straps off the carriageways because there better 
Suedehead:
hotel magnum:
they always worked for the 40 + years i have driven, keeping the truck upright, with no harsh braking helps+1
Only 38 years in though
You amateur lol
Does the dolly knot conform to the relevant British Standard, and do have a certificate to tie knots?
hotel magnum:
they always worked for the 40 + years i have driven, keeping the truck upright, with no harsh braking helps
This everytime.
Everything was secured as such once over, and if you knew what you were doing, there were no dramas.
The worst imo was chipboard, which needed to be double roped on every other hook, or every hook with a double dolly knot…better on a flat trailer than a taut, then it could be also sheeted tight, and if the truck was driven as a truck SHOULD be driven, there were no problems.
The law of averages prevailed many times, (luckily not with me) but ■■■■ happens in any situation, down to said law…
Most lost load accidents are down to inept and/or ■■■■ poor driving. 
, flying around roundabouts, pulling in/out of junctions too fast, erratic driving around bends, or harsh braking.
So the answer to o/p is ‘Yes’…, but only if the driver does not drive his truck as he would a car.
Whether it would work today is doubtful, with all the teararse ‘not a second to spare’ artists, combined with them allowing some ■■■■ on the phone to push them. …aka A recipe for a ■■■■ up.
Taking a break at MSA t’other day, a rigid pulled in beside me, beatifully made large and expensive industrial castings on board, had a couple of straps over them to keep legal but the real securing of the castings to their mating parts was by perfectly executed twice looped dollies, the likes of which not seen for many years.
Sure enough there’s another old 'un looking back when i offered my admiration for a job well done.
For the OP, depending on what you were carrying depended to whether you roped over the load itself or, if damageable if directly roped, between the stacks/pallets so the sheet held each individual stack, the sheet forming a semi elasticated covering by that method.
As said, you drove lorries as lorries then, with loads on flatbeds you could keep an eye on what was happening to load and restraints, instead of now where it’s pretty much out of sight and mind, until, oblivious to what is happening inside a curtain a loosening loads makes a sudden break for freedom when the clot behind the wheel fails to take account of what they’re driving.
If the load wasn’t up to the headboard, the sensible driver might stand two sturdy pallets at the front of the load and criss cross rope them heavily to form a temporary headboard, it worked if the driver used some nous.
I’m sure many will have experienced those dreadful curtainsiders whose curtain buckles keep coming unhooked becasue there are no substantial roof supports. I had a week on agency some years ago driving scaffolding rigids. Everything supposed to be secured with ratchet straps - except the same thing kept happening as the chassis racked on uneven roads. In the end I just roped it all on and the issue went away. There are plenty of youtube videos of the German Vosa opening curtains to find that ratchet straps have come unhooked or worked loose.
The likes of that woman ‘expert’ the vosa employs will say that rope is ‘dangerous’ because of many things like : new rope stretches, tying a knot in it decreases its strength, hope hooks are only rated at half a ton, rope rots if contaminated, cheapskate hauliers have progressively bought thinner and thinner rope, Rope frays over sharp edges and a long length looped around multiple hooks means if one lashing coming loose then all will shortly become loose.
Yet practically all the above also apply to ratchet straps but somehow we just dont see the cross channel ferries moored using ratchet straps : they use old fashioned 'unsafe. Rope.
DickyNick:
It takes a lot of force to make something heavy that’s not on wheels shift. On old trucks back in the so called golden age there probably wasn’t enough braking force from the truck to actually create a harsh enough brake to send something heavy flying forward. A modern truck can brake hard enough to shift a load so DVSA would probably say no to your question. Your never going to accelerate hard enough forward to create enough force to shift a heavy load backwards, and as long as you don’t corner too fast again you aren’t create enough Gs to send a heavy load sideways. In fact your much more likely to shift a light load with normal driving than you are a heavy load as it takes less G forces to shift something light than it does to shift something heavy.
Dubious
shullbit:
DickyNick:
It takes a lot of force to make something heavy that’s not on wheels shift. On old trucks back in the so called golden age there probably wasn’t enough braking force from the truck to actually create a harsh enough brake to send something heavy flying forward. A modern truck can brake hard enough to shift a load so DVSA would probably say no to your question. Your never going to accelerate hard enough forward to create enough force to shift a heavy load backwards, and as long as you don’t corner too fast again you aren’t create enough Gs to send a heavy load sideways. In fact your much more likely to shift a light load with normal driving than you are a heavy load as it takes less G forces to shift something light than it does to shift something heavy.Dubious
Dubious?
You are being very polite!
I remember one of the first things done after cutting new lengths of rope was to melt the ends, tie the loops in one end and then stretch the ropes to reduce the elasticity of the ropes.
Sixties boy:
I remember one of the first things done after cutting new lengths of rope was to melt the ends, tie the loops in one end and then stretch the ropes to reduce the elasticity of the ropes.
I could splice an eye but I could never manage to do a backsplice for the other end. I needed a coil of rope a couple of months ago but the only length available in the thickness I wanted was hemp which you can’t melt. I had the devil’s own job trying to wrap the ends in string, it all came off again.
cav551:
Sixties boy:
I remember one of the first things done after cutting new lengths of rope was to melt the ends, tie the loops in one end and then stretch the ropes to reduce the elasticity of the ropes.I could splice an eye but I could never manage to do a backsplice for the other end. I needed a coil of rope a couple of months ago but the only length available in the thickness I wanted was hemp which you can’t melt. I had the devil’s own job trying to wrap the ends in string, it all came off again.
Heathen!
Splice eyes both ends.