Can VOSA weigh STGO cat 2?

Hi all,
I run a volvo plated at 80t, my tare with our 9ft low loader trailer is 27t so I can only carry a max 53t load.
Now then, the firm I work for has a Big long reach excavator that I estimate to be 55-60t but my boss keeps making me move it even under protest that I’m overweight. He just says no your not get on with it, they can’t weigh anything that big anyway.
Is that true? What sort of measures have they got to weigh you?

All the VOSA stations now have axle weigh bridges where each axle weight is displayed and then the total comes up at the end, so I guess in theory they could because unlike a conventional weighbridge there would be no maximum weight at which the weighbridge bottoms out,

Surely an axle weigher would have a limit tho? I bet I’m over 15t per axle

Also it’s just over 3.5Mt wide so would it fit every vosa station. And come to think of it, ill be running on a movement order with a set route. Would they be able to deviate me to the test center?

I do think you’re worrying unnecessarily to be honest. VOSA stop very few UK trucks let alone STGO. Stop worrying! And taking about it online!

Dunno but is it really worth the risk??

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Weighbridge wont be able to weigh axles at that weight and doubt it would fit on most with a big overhang anyway. I wouldnt worry about it, sling it on and crack on…

AndrewG:
Weighbridge wont be able to weigh axles at that weight and doubt it would fit on most with a big overhang anyway. I wouldnt worry about it, sling it on and crack on…

Rubbish. Maximum drive axle weight in this country is around 13.5 tonnes so they’re going to be capable of weighing at least that with at least 20% to spare so are going to be able to do 15 tonnes or more per axle. Plenty of weighbridges that load would fit on. As you get heavier the maximum legal axle weights don’t increase, you just increase the number of axles and ones that would be rated at say 8t or 10t are uprated. When I did wind turbine masts and blades years ago we were running with a total of 8 axles.

If they’re able to catch 6x2 with tri-axles on grossing almost 50t they’re going to be able to weigh a STGO Cat 2.

As to whether they’ll pull one in the answer is extremely unlikely.

Wasn’t there something a while back about weight sensors being installed in UK motorway running lanes?

Found it, mentioned seven years ago. Probably linked to ANPR cameras now if they’ve got any sense.

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Why not just look on the machines own weight plate and then do a bit of maths…?

All plant that I moved had their own weight plates.

Goldfinger:
Why not just look on the machines own weight plate and then do a bit of maths…?

All plant that I moved had their own weight plates.

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Goldfinger:
Why not just look on the machines own weight plate and then do a bit of maths…?

All plant that I moved had their own weight plates.

As far as I know the weight plates are for the machines straight out of the factory? if the long reach arms were added later the weight plate could be different from the current set up of the machine?
A 360 grab we had at work was plated for 23 odd tonne but with the cab riser, grab and longer boom it was 27ish tonne when we put it on the weighbridge!

Think that might be what the OP is getting at as the machine is a long reach its heavier than a standard model?

What about emailing the manufacturer?

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Same as everyone else. Put plenty of marker boards and flashing lights on it. They’ll not bat an eye lid. If it looks right :wink:

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Conor:

AndrewG:
Weighbridge wont be able to weigh axles at that weight and doubt it would fit on most with a big overhang anyway. I wouldnt worry about it, sling it on and crack on…

Rubbish. Maximum drive axle weight in this country is around 13.5 tonnes so they’re going to be capable of weighing at least that with at least 20% to spare so are going to be able to do 15 tonnes or more per axle. Plenty of weighbridges that load would fit on. As you get heavier the maximum legal axle weights don’t increase, you just increase the number of axles and ones that would be rated at say 8t or 10t are uprated. When I did wind turbine masts and blades years ago we were running with a total of 8 axles.

If they’re able to catch 6x2 with tri-axles on grossing almost 50t they’re going to be able to weigh a STGO Cat 2.

As to whether they’ll pull one in the answer is extremely unlikely.

Rubbish. Show me a weighbridge capable of weighing each individual axle on a ten+axle heavy haulage trailer with axle spreads of 1 metre. I grossed 51335kg’s a couple of weeks back but could only get a gross overall weight not any axle weights.btw, UK drive axle weight is only 11.5t

Surely they would just weigh the excavator and then the lorry and trailer.

What is the maximum weight on the average weighbridge?
When I worked in a scrap yard 50 tonne was the max.

RB84:

Goldfinger:
Why not just look on the machines own weight plate and then do a bit of maths…?

All plant that I moved had their own weight plates.

As far as I know the weight plates are for the machines straight out of the factory? if the long reach arms were added later the weight plate could be different from the current set up of the machine?
A 360 grab we had at work was plated for 23 odd tonne but with the cab riser, grab and longer boom it was 27ish tonne when we put it on the weighbridge!

Think that might be what the OP is getting at as the machine is a long reach its heavier than a standard model?

Excluding attachments, shouldn’t the machine then be reweighed and re-plated then…? :confused:

i was told by a vosa at the beatock a few years ago that all the axle weighbridges that vosa can weigh upto 80 ton gvw

AndrewG:
Rubbish. Show me a weighbridge capable of weighing each individual axle on a ten+axle heavy haulage trailer with axle spreads of 1 metre. I grossed 51335kg’s a couple of weeks back but could only get a gross overall weight not any axle weights.btw, UK drive axle weight is only 11.5t

Most axle weighbridges go up to 20 ton per axle.
The spread of the axle doesn’t matter, as you can drive up to 5 km/h and you can still be weighed.
The amount of axles is irrelevant, as you just add up the weights and use a formula to correct.
We use to have several customers in the dairy industry who used these, and they didn’t loose a penny on wrong weights, as these scales are calibrated.
Have a read at this averyweigh-tronix.com/globa … h_spec.pdf

Also people who have driven bulk or tankers, know the system of “split” weighing.
Hereby will you put first the tractor unit on the bridge, and than pull it forward to put the trailers axles on their own on the bridge (leave it coupled up)
It’s a international way of weighing, often used in Belgium, France and Italy where the old corporate and public weigh bridges are often to short to put truck and trailer on in one go.
Also they where traditional only rated to 32 tonnes.
There are more ways to skin a cat.
Anybody who ever put a weighbridge on “black” know that the police or other organisations have a way to get a legal approved weight ticket to present in court, no problem

Pretty sure my drive axle is 13 tonne, with a 68t/m crane fitted, AndrewG.
Sapper