Had 45hr at base .Started mon 0500. Fin 1200 thur .Took 24hr rest away from base.start 1300 fri. Now want to fin 1100 sun, and start 1100 mon 12th?? Thanks
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I’ve moved these posts from the Drivers Hour Guard Forum and merged them into one.
now for some answers …
I would say yes, but I’m not an expert you will need to take another 45 hour rest the following weekend.
yuppie:
Can I take x2 24hr breaks within 3 days of eachother? Both away frombase? Ta
yuppie:
Had 45hr at base .Started mon 0500. Fin 1200 thur .Took 24hr rest away from base.start 1300 fri. Now want to fin 1100 sun, and start 1100 mon 12th?? Thanks
Yes you can do that and can then work until 11:00 Sunday 18th before having another weekly or reduced weekly rest period, but if you have only a reduced weekly rest period during next week you will probably need to start a regular 45 hour weekly rest period starting no later than 23:59 Sunday 18th November.
I say probably because it depends on your previous weekly rest periods, to play safe if you start a regular weekly rest period no later than 23:59 Sunday 18th November it will definitely be legal.
If you can’t do that then we’ll need to go into more detail about your weekly rest periods over the previous few weeks (could get complicated ).
Only one of the reduced weekly rest periods you’ve had this week will need to be compensated for.
By the way where the weekly rest periods and reduced weekly rest periods were taken no longer matters
Many thanks for the reply’s, i didnt know it’d take a week to go online .
Yes it does get complicated, i cant have a regular weekly rest at 2359 sun 18th, as i wont be shipping in til mon 19th. I take it i can drive off the boat and book off, someone can take over.Sorry for being slightly ignorant , been a while since i been in this position (flat out ha!). Thanks again.
yuppie:
Many thanks for the reply’s, i didnt know it’d take a week to go online .
Yes it does get complicated, i cant have a regular weekly rest at 2359 sun 18th, as i wont be shipping in til mon 19th. I take it i can drive off the boat and book off, someone can take over.Sorry for being slightly ignorant , been a while since i been in this position (flat out ha!). Thanks again.
If you started at 11:00 Monday you will need to have a weekly rest period of some sort no later than 11:00 Sunday anyway, if that’s the only weekly rest period you’re having this week then you need to make it a full weekly rest period.
It does to some extent depend on what rest periods you had the week before last, but if it was just the 45 hours then it’s likely that you will legally need to have a full weekly rest period this week.
Blimey its worse than corrie! Booked off 1800hr thur- will book on 0600 sat.Arr UK monday 20th.So I wasn’t aware the weeklyrest/reduced weekly rest neednt be at base? So I can have a 45hr anywhere?many thanks, I have the vosa download, on the pc, but can I make sense ofit■■? Cheers again
yuppie:
Blimey its worse than corrie! Booked off 1800hr thur- will book on 0600 sat.Arr UK monday 20th.So I wasn’t aware the weeklyrest/reduced weekly rest neednt be at base? So I can have a 45hr anywhere?many thanks, I have the vosa download, on the pc, but can I make sense ofit■■? Cheers again
Nothings worse than Corrie mate
The weekly rest doesn’t need to be taken at base it can be taken anywhere, as you’re having a reduced weekly rest period from 18:00 Thursday until 06:00 Saturday which is 36 hours I’m afraid it’s not enough to keep you legal.
If possible you really need to extend that 36 hours to 45 hours which would mean not starting work again until 15:00 Saturday but I’m guessing that’s going to be a problem ?
yuppie:
Blimey its worse than corrie! Booked off 1800hr thur- will book on 0600 sat.Arr UK monday 20th.So I wasn’t aware the weeklyrest/reduced weekly rest neednt be at base? So I can have a 45hr anywhere?many thanks, I have the vosa download, on the pc, but can I make sense ofit■■? Cheers again
The rules on weekly rests away from base are weird
The rules state that a reduced weekly rest can be taken away from base so by that inference a full weekly rest cannot because it does not say you can !!
I reckon that was an oversight in the rules because as far as I know no driver has EVER been taken to task over having a full weekly rest away from base
ROG:
yuppie:
Blimey its worse than corrie! Booked off 1800hr thur- will book on 0600 sat.Arr UK monday 20th.So I wasn’t aware the weeklyrest/reduced weekly rest neednt be at base? So I can have a 45hr anywhere?many thanks, I have the vosa download, on the pc, but can I make sense ofit■■? Cheers againThe rules on weekly rests away from base are weird
The rules state that a reduced weekly rest can be taken away from base so by that inference a full weekly rest cannot because it does not say you can !!
The rules DO NOT state that. Yet again you are completely wrong because you seem to have difficulty reading and comprehending, but that doesn’t seem to stop you posting misinformation. Nowhere in the regulations does it state you cannot take a regular weekly rest period, or can only take a reduced weekly rest, away from base. So if you have a copy of the regulations which does say that then they are bogus and you should get rid of them and use the official version, you might get less stuff wrong then.
Coffeeholic:
ROG:
yuppie:
Blimey its worse than corrie! Booked off 1800hr thur- will book on 0600 sat.Arr UK monday 20th.So I wasn’t aware the weeklyrest/reduced weekly rest neednt be at base? So I can have a 45hr anywhere?many thanks, I have the vosa download, on the pc, but can I make sense ofit■■? Cheers againThe rules on weekly rests away from base are weird
The rules state that a reduced weekly rest can be taken away from base so by that inference a full weekly rest cannot because it does not say you can !!
The rules DO NOT state that.
Blimey I’d completely overlooked that.
Well spotted
Coffeeholic:
ROG:
yuppie:
Blimey its worse than corrie! Booked off 1800hr thur- will book on 0600 sat.Arr UK monday 20th.So I wasn’t aware the weeklyrest/reduced weekly rest neednt be at base? So I can have a 45hr anywhere?many thanks, I have the vosa download, on the pc, but can I make sense ofit■■? Cheers againThe rules on weekly rests away from base are weird
The rules state that a reduced weekly rest can be taken away from base so by that inference a full weekly rest cannot because it does not say you can !!
The rules DO NOT state that. Yet again you are completely wrong because you seem to have difficulty reading and comprehending, but that doesn’t seem to stop you posting misinformation. Nowhere in the regulations does it state you cannot take a regular weekly rest period, or can only take a reduced weekly rest, away from base. So if you have a copy of the regulations which does say that then they are bogus and you should get rid of them and use the official version, you might get less stuff wrong then.
Would this interpret that it means that a regular weekly rest can not be taken away from base, but a reduced weekly rest can be taken away from base. Or is it a choice to do it just wondering
561/2006
- Where a driver chooses to do this, daily rest periods and reduced weekly rest periods away from base may be taken in a vehicle, as long as it has suitable sleeping facilities for each driver and the vehicle is stationary.
delboytwo:
Coffeeholic:
ROG:
yuppie:
Blimey its worse than corrie! Booked off 1800hr thur- will book on 0600 sat.Arr UK monday 20th.So I wasn’t aware the weeklyrest/reduced weekly rest neednt be at base? So I can have a 45hr anywhere?many thanks, I have the vosa download, on the pc, but can I make sense ofit■■? Cheers againThe rules on weekly rests away from base are weird
The rules state that a reduced weekly rest can be taken away from base so by that inference a full weekly rest cannot because it does not say you can !!
The rules DO NOT state that. Yet again you are completely wrong because you seem to have difficulty reading and comprehending, but that doesn’t seem to stop you posting misinformation. Nowhere in the regulations does it state you cannot take a regular weekly rest period, or can only take a reduced weekly rest, away from base. So if you have a copy of the regulations which does say that then they are bogus and you should get rid of them and use the official version, you might get less stuff wrong then.
Would this interpret that it means that a regular weekly rest can not be taken away from base, but a reduced weekly rest can be taken away from base. Or is it a choice to do it just wondering
561/2006
- Where a driver chooses to do this, daily rest periods and reduced weekly rest periods away from base may be taken in a vehicle, as long as it has suitable sleeping facilities for each driver and the vehicle is stationary.
Del,
I think your interpretation is as flawed as ROG’s and in your case it’s probably because you’re looking at the wrong part of the Regs.
The part you’ve quoted isn’t concerned with what you’ve put… the part you’ve quoted is on about taking daily rest periods and reduced weekly rest periods in a vehicle when away from base, and then goes on to mention the sleeping facilities in the vehicle.
561/2006 article 8
8. Where a driver chooses to do this, daily rest periods and
reduced weekly rest periods away from base may be taken in a
vehicle, as long as it has suitable sleeping facilities for each
driver and the vehicle is stationary.
hmm… no mention of full weekly rests
ROG:
561/2006 article 8
8. Where a driver chooses to do this, daily rest periods and
reduced weekly rest periods away from base may be taken in a
vehicle, as long as it has suitable sleeping facilities for each
driver and the vehicle is stationary.hmm… no mention of full weekly rests
Indeed, and this has been done on here several times before. The wording of that means that technically you are not allowed to take a full weekly rest away from base.
I think the general consensus though is that this is never enforced.
Paul
ROG:
The rules on weekly rests away from base are weirdThe rules state that a reduced weekly rest can be taken away from base so by that inference a full weekly rest cannot because it does not say you can !!
I reckon that was an oversight in the rules because as far as I know no driver has EVER been taken to task over having a full weekly rest away from base
ROG:
561/2006 article 8
8. Where a driver chooses to do this, daily rest periods and
reduced weekly rest periods away from base may be taken in a
vehicle, as long as it has suitable sleeping facilities for each
driver and the vehicle is stationary.hmm… no mention of full weekly rests
I think you’ll find the point Neil is getting at is that you’ve wrongly said that the “The rules state that a reduced weekly rest can be taken away from base so by that inference a full weekly rest cannot because it does not say you can”, when in actual fact the regulations say “daily rest periods and reduced weekly rest periods away from base may be taken in a vehicle”.
Nowhere in the regulations does it infer that you cannot take a weekly rest period away from base.
I see what you and Neil are saying
The rules allow a full weekly rest to be taken away from base in a motel etc
I wonder if that was the intention of the rules makers …
ROG:
I see what you and Neil are sayingThe rules allow a full weekly rest to be taken away from base in a motel etc
I wonder if that was the intention of the rules makers …
I suppose they also allow it to be taken away from base in a 1 man tent pitched next to the vehicle whilst it is snowing and below freezing outside.
But the second you get into the nice warm truck to get some proper rest you are breaking the law.
Paul
ROG:
561/2006 article 8
8. Where a driver chooses to do this, daily rest periods and
reduced weekly rest periods away from base may be taken in a
vehicle, as long as it has suitable sleeping facilities for each
driver and the vehicle is stationary.hmm… no mention of full weekly rests
Which is only dealing with rest periods, daily and weekly, taken in a vehicle and in no way prohibits a regular weekly rest being taken away from base.
Coffeeholic:
ROG:
561/2006 article 8
8. Where a driver chooses to do this, daily rest periods and
reduced weekly rest periods away from base may be taken in a
vehicle, as long as it has suitable sleeping facilities for each
driver and the vehicle is stationary.hmm… no mention of full weekly rests
Which is only dealing with rest periods, daily and weekly, taken in a vehicle and in no way prohibits a regular weekly rest being taken away from base.
Got it - ta