I’m sure that before the demise of Comet, they had in cab cameras fitted, observing what was going on in the cab.
daveb0789:
Winseer:
daveb0789:
rambo19:
Terry T:
My company are currently debating using driver facing cameras to improve driver skill.If it does get the go ahead, and I suspect it won’t as we’re unionised and I doubt they’ll bend over and take it, I’ll hand my notice in the same day as it’s a step too far IMO.
Union will have no power to stop it.
On the trains we will never allow them to install those kinds of cameras.
Have you not got that dingaling thing that you have to operate within 6 seconds to prove you’re not nodding off?
That’s kind of intrusive really…
Isn’t it the case that on the tube, any driver nodding off, and running a red signal will have the power to the train cut, so no accident occurs… (train trundles to a stop rather than brakes itself?)
If this isn’t the case on the mainline trains, then how come not?The tube has the ‘dead mans handle’. It’s function is to ensure the driver is conscious. Constant pressure must be maintained on it. The newer tube trains have a twist type handle which does the same thing.
Main line trains have two main devices - a drivers safety device (a pedal which must be kept depressed) and connected with it a vigilance device. That’s the one that goes beep beep. It’s to make sure the driver is conscious because unlike tube trains the driving controls aren’t spring loaded but the dead mans pedal is. How often does the vigilance alarm (beep beep) go off ? It’s every 60 seconds if no controls have been moved. Any adjustment to the brakes or power setting resets the timer. The 6 seconds period is the time you get to reset the vigilance once it starts beeping.
plus you have the AWS to acknowledge at each signal which at over 60mph + can be every 15 seconds or less plus on top of that should you exceed the speed limit at certain locations or god forbid SPAD a signal the TPWS system will activate bringing the train to a stand with an emergency brake application so unlike what some believe its not just sit back and let the train do the work even if you dont have to steer you have to be very vigilant with saftey devices as well as maintaing speed and braking to get the train sometimes 600 tonnes plus to stop at just the right spot om the platform of in the yard
GOG47:
I can’t believe what I’m reading here!Being disciplined for having a ■■■■■ beside the wagon or taking your wife a spin with you,big brother in the office watching your every move,THIS JOB IS NOW OFFICIALLY [zb]!
I completely agree. I run my own truck, and believe me that is grief from beginning to end, constantly worrying if the engine is about to blow up, dreading getting home at the weekend and finding a letter from HMRC, the Traffic Commissioner etc etc etc, having all of the aggravation of dealing with the VAT, the breakdowns, the punctures, but all of this is 1000x better than having the office staff spying on me when I am in my own private place. Talking to myself, picking my nose, scratching my ■■■■■■■■ etc.
What is this country coming to? I grew up at a time when the Soviet Union was the epitome of evil because of the surveillance its citizens were put under by the KGB. Never in a million years could the KGB have dreamt up something as surreal as this.
Crikey this is for real? Inward facing cameras. Are these things you can see or are we talking hidden ones? Do the companies make it known they’re filming?
Harry Monk:
GOG47:
I can’t believe what I’m reading here!Being disciplined for having a ■■■■■ beside the wagon or taking your wife a spin with you,big brother in the office watching your every move,THIS JOB IS NOW OFFICIALLY [zb]!I completely agree. I run my own truck, and believe me that is grief from beginning to end, constantly worrying if the engine is about to blow up, dreading getting home at the weekend and finding a letter from HMRC, the Traffic Commissioner etc etc etc, having all of the aggravation of dealing with the VAT, the breakdowns, the punctures, but all of this is 1000x better than having the office staff spying on me when I am in my own private place. Talking to myself, picking my nose, scratching my ■■■■■■■■ etc.
What is this country coming to? I grew up at a time when the Soviet Union was the epitome of evil because of the surveillance its citizens were put under by the KGB. Never in a million years could the KGB have dreamt up something as surreal as this.
You made a choice to run your own truck, and so your priorities are naturally different. But for some of us, we chose lorry driving because we are inherently private people who feel happiest in our own company and the job used to symbolise a sense of freedom. The idea that the last remnants of privacy and freedom in driving can be snatched away is actually stressful because of the value placed onto them in the first place. It’s all relative to what is primarily valued. For you it’s your business as an owner driver, for others it’s their private environment.
First its cameras then comes the neck collars to deliver an electric
shock for any infringement.
Dance monkey dance. 
ThrustMaster:
We have a 7-inch touch-screen display in our cabs and yes they do have a spy-hole for a camera, which the drivers have taped over.
Although the office said it would only be used for video-phone calls, I fail to see why would they want to see the driver in a phone call and that was more likely just a lame BS excuse.
This is why management can’t be trusted and just carries on the Them & US culture at work.It crashed once and rebooted into Windows CE Embedded Edition, so I had a nose around and there was software to operate the camera and take still-images.
Strangely enough, the ■■■■ thing crashed today and so I had a nose around and took some photos.
Peeled back the electrical tape to reveal the spy camera…
Let me explain the theory behind the Comet camera.
The camera is fitted with a forward facing lens, and an inward facing one to cover the cab.
The camera worked on an hard drive system wherein it was active constantly. The only time the camera recorded,was if there was a sudden jolt/ bump/ stop. Then in this case the previous 15 seconds would be recorded and used in the event of an accident/ event.When we arrived back at the depot, a signal would remotely get sent to the truck and a download of the days events was recorded to a laptop, usually the TM’s.
After reviewing the footage of the day, then any appropriate action was taken. You could see from the camera in the truck when it was recording, because a red light on the casing flashed. Sudden load noises like shouting at motorists would also record…As I found out! 
I’ve allways said iv nothing to hide they can do what they want i.e tracker etc,but this driver facing camera is a joke a total invasion of a drivers privacy.
But the yes men will just bend over and take it again
That’s disgusting. Like East Germany and the Stasi. Shouldn’t they be open about filming staff in a cab? What about the trampers being filmed 24/7 too?
DonutUK:
National Express coaches have 27 cameras monitoring the interior and exterior of the vehicle, including a driver facing one.Many drivers have been disciplined or sacked for drinking a coffee while driving, smoking outside the coach whilst waiting for departure times etc.
27 cameras still don’t stop them driving like ■■■■■
I’ve heard rumours that our 7.5s and HGVs have had trackers fitted. I find it extremely amusing that they want to know where we are, and what we’re up to, yet the lads on vans (with no tachos monitoring them) come and go as they please, a lot of them nipping home for an hour or three to bump up their overtime.
The Cemex ‘London spec’ tippers have them.
The man told me they only record ‘incidents’ and there’s no live feed back to the office.
NOVE:
I’ve heard rumours that our 7.5s and HGVs have had trackers fitted. I find it extremely amusing that they want to know where we are, and what we’re up to, yet the lads on vans (with no tachos monitoring them) come and go as they please, a lot of them nipping home for an hour or three to bump up their overtime.
Just wait they’ll put trackers on the vans soon too.
selby newcomer:
DonutUK:
National Express coaches have 27 cameras monitoring the interior and exterior of the vehicle, including a driver facing one.Many drivers have been disciplined or sacked for drinking a coffee while driving, smoking outside the coach whilst waiting for departure times etc.
27 cameras still don’t stop them driving like [zb]
Exactly. It’s an urban myth cameras improve driver behaviour. A bad driver won’t care about the cameras and anyway I bet most of us forget they are there anyway.
alamcculloch:
The technology exists for the T.M. office to monitor how often the cab doors are opened,it works by the varience in atmospheric pressure.I think that we should know when we are being filmed.
Would there be a change in atmospheric pressure if I ■■■■■■?
After a ■■■■ I would expect a rise in pressure.The silent death might even cause a cloud to form in the roof area of the cab.
If you think there is a camera fitted, just try knocking one out while sat in a queue, the office will soon tell you if it is working. 
I’m a london bus driver.
Rumour at the moment is that microphones are going to be fitted as well, so that if there is an arguement between a driver and passenger it is recorded.
RT keedwell have them was speaking to one of there drivers when I noticed how big his camera was on his screen and he said how it was rear facing to, all gets sent off to Chicago to be analysed he said things like smoking etc got a blind eye turned to but more serious stuff lead to bollockings