I can’t believe what I’m reading here!Being disciplined for having a ■■■■■ beside the wagon or taking your wife a spin with you,big brother in the office watching your every move,THIS JOB IS NOW OFFICIALLY ■■■■■■!
GOG47:
THIS JOB IS NOW OFFICIALLY [zb]!
…and they wonder why youngsters aren’t signing up…
The technology exists for the T.M. office to monitor how often the cab doors are opened,it works by the varience in atmospheric pressure.I think that we should know when we are being filmed.
Buses I used to drive had them installed, think the newer buses now have microphones in the doors as well
Pimpdaddy:
GOG47:
THIS JOB IS NOW OFFICIALLY [zb]!…and they wonder why youngsters aren’t signing up…
+1, A camera facing you for…“insurance purposes to protect you” (yeh right! 
) is bad enough, say you have an accident while eating a Mars bar or something, whether eating had a direct effect to the incident or not you can sure as hell guarantee that you would be blamed for it.
Forward facing not a problem, but facing me? they can shove it up their arses, Mine is, and will remain taped up, if they sack me so be it. I will deal with it if and when.
The other drivers?..they have just bent over and touched their toes fully lubricated …as usual
How about they put cameras where they might be useful like on the back of trailers. If I ever find a camera pointing at me in the cab that I haven’t been told about it will be going out the window gangnam style.
jay0:
How about they put cameras where they might be useful like on the back of trailers. If I ever find a camera pointing at me in the cab that I haven’t been told about it will be going out the window gangnam style.
Mental image of you dacing round throwing cameras now 
robroy:
Pimpdaddy:
GOG47:
THIS JOB IS NOW OFFICIALLY [zb]!…and they wonder why youngsters aren’t signing up…
+1, A camera facing you for…“insurance purposes to protect you” (yeh right!
Forward facing not a problem, but facing me? they can shove it up their arses, Mine is, and will remain taped up, if they sack me so be it. I will deal with it if and when.
The other drivers?..they have just bent over and touched their toes fully lubricated …as usual
Some are not to be found, nor are they known about by the driver. That’s the depressing part.
ezydriver:
robroy:
Pimpdaddy:
GOG47:
THIS JOB IS NOW OFFICIALLY [zb]!…and they wonder why youngsters aren’t signing up…
+1, A camera facing you for…“insurance purposes to protect you” (yeh right!
Forward facing not a problem, but facing me? they can shove it up their arses, Mine is, and will remain taped up, if they sack me so be it. I will deal with it if and when.
The other drivers?..they have just bent over and touched their toes fully lubricated …as usualSome are not to be found, nor are they known about by the driver. That’s the depressing part.
If what you say is true I would question the legality of that.
ezydriver:
Some are not to be found, nor are they known about by the driver. That’s the depressing part.
Drivers have a habit of finding stuff out & it doesn’t take them long…
rambo19:
Terry T:
My company are currently debating using driver facing cameras to improve driver skill.If it does get the go ahead, and I suspect it won’t as we’re unionised and I doubt they’ll bend over and take it, I’ll hand my notice in the same day as it’s a step too far IMO.
Union will have no power to stop it.
On the trains we will never allow them to install those kinds of cameras.
I’ve delivered to Brakes before and they has pictures on their walls of drivers connoting offences taken by inward facing cameras.
Wouldn’t be impressed if any company I worked for did the same, regardless of whatever excuse they choose to use.
bigvern1:
We had them when I worked for Comet. I was reprimanded for calling someone a “see you next tuesday” on the M5.
Hahahahahahahahahaha
hahahahahaha
your a cracker hahahaha
good un !
You reckon if you started talking into them like on stobart trucks and trailers office would soon get bored and stop watching them
alamcculloch:
The technology exists for the T.M. office to monitor how often the cab doors are opened,it works by the varience in atmospheric pressure.
More likely to work off the courtesy light switch, I would think…
These pinhole type cameras are the ones that bother me. It’s bad enough knowing that there might be a camera… Not knowing for sure if there IS one or not is perhaps worse. I’ve already come across hapless drivers at a certain supermarket supply depot I frequent that "were spotted booking POA and then having - shock horror - a BREAK on POA! …There was me thinking “the camera is off when the ignition is off.” 
In any case - how did anyone know what the interrogated driver had been doing on his POA or Breaks etc?
Personally, I don’t bother even reporting in if I’m pulling up in a layby without a load on… It’s a legal requirement for me to take proper breaks, and since I’m not being paid whlist on them, I consider time spent on a break to “not be the firm’s business at all”…
Having a break apparently involves (a) eating and drinking (b) leaving the cab for non-work purposes (c) lying on the bunk (d) reading a newspaper
I would imagine that if there is objection to the above, then POA should be all of us sitting bolt upright at the wheel, drumming our fingers whilst we wait to be allocated a bay, or whatever it is one is supposed to be booking POA for.
Oh yes… Mustn’t forget that some places will try and dock you for ALL the breaks taken, hence why there’s pressure to “not book poa when an unpaid break will do”… 
daveb0789:
rambo19:
Terry T:
My company are currently debating using driver facing cameras to improve driver skill.If it does get the go ahead, and I suspect it won’t as we’re unionised and I doubt they’ll bend over and take it, I’ll hand my notice in the same day as it’s a step too far IMO.
Union will have no power to stop it.
On the trains we will never allow them to install those kinds of cameras.
Have you not got that dingaling thing that you have to operate within 6 seconds to prove you’re not nodding off?
That’s kind of intrusive really…
Isn’t it the case that on the tube, any driver nodding off, and running a red signal will have the power to the train cut, so no accident occurs… (train trundles to a stop rather than brakes itself?)
If this isn’t the case on the mainline trains, then how come not? 
A company I work for has dual in-cab cameras, primarily to record events to the front of the vehicle, in case of an accident, but they are also inward facing, all the drivers, me included just pull down the sun visor. Simples ! No comments have been made by the transport office staff.
Winseer:
daveb0789:
rambo19:
Terry T:
My company are currently debating using driver facing cameras to improve driver skill.If it does get the go ahead, and I suspect it won’t as we’re unionised and I doubt they’ll bend over and take it, I’ll hand my notice in the same day as it’s a step too far IMO.
Union will have no power to stop it.
On the trains we will never allow them to install those kinds of cameras.
Have you not got that dingaling thing that you have to operate within 6 seconds to prove you’re not nodding off?
That’s kind of intrusive really…
Isn’t it the case that on the tube, any driver nodding off, and running a red signal will have the power to the train cut, so no accident occurs… (train trundles to a stop rather than brakes itself?)
If this isn’t the case on the mainline trains, then how come not?
The tube has the ‘dead mans handle’. It’s function is to ensure the driver is conscious. Constant pressure must be maintained on it. The newer tube trains have a twist type handle which does the same thing.
Main line trains have two main devices - a drivers safety device (a pedal which must be kept depressed) and connected with it a vigilance device. That’s the one that goes beep beep. It’s to make sure the driver is conscious because unlike tube trains the driving controls aren’t spring loaded but the dead mans pedal is. How often does the vigilance alarm (beep beep) go off ? It’s every 60 seconds if no controls have been moved. Any adjustment to the brakes or power setting resets the timer. The 6 seconds period is the time you get to reset the vigilance once it starts beeping.
NewLad:
Dotty D:
I was driving for a company once and thought I would take the wife with me to hull docks, the next day I had a call asking if she was in the cab with me I new I had been rumbled so said yes, I went back to work got my warning and went on my way a day or so later I was talking to the TM and he told me the cabs had 2 camera’s in to watch the whole cab, The point am trying to make is I looked all over the cab but for the life of me I couldn’t find them proper invasion of privacy.I’d be [zb] like a right good en on my 45, let them get an eyeful of that.
