Butlers quarry,Maltby

Fred bagley on left & ken ridgeway cutting stone for director alwyn butlers house being built in stainton.

Ernie butcher tipping in to parker plant with aveling barford.Called to see my stepfather today,the fodens had ■■■■■■■ engines that were not a problem,the main fault was the gearboxes and back axles although he can’t remember what type of g/boxes they had.

We had one of those Barfords at Ballidon Paul, Leyland 680 engine I think. Plus a few Foden’s as well, ■■■■■■■ 220 and 250’s.

Pete.

Hi pete,butlers had 18 of the fodens dont know what engines they had but my stepfather who was garage foreman said they were always breaking down,workshop always full.

paul motyka:
Hi pete,butlers had 18 of the fodens dont know what engines they had but my stepfather who was garage foreman said they were always breaking down,workshop always full.

Our’s were very little trouble Paul, springs of course broke regularly and the occasional clutch but otherwise they were pretty good. They were replaced by large Aveling Barfords but had done many years service. I suppose that at Stainton they would do more miles than at Ballidon as ours was a more compact quarry with no actual road network? We also had a pair of Atkinson dumpers that were smaller than the Foden’s but had the same ■■■■■■■ engine’s coupled to a six speed ZF gearbox in one and a rubbish David Brown six speeder in the other!

Pete.

windrush:

paul motyka:
Hi pete,butlers had 18 of the fodens dont know what engines they had but my stepfather who was garage foreman said they were always breaking down,workshop always full.

Our’s were very little trouble Paul, springs of course broke regularly and the occasional clutch but otherwise they were pretty good. They were replaced by large Aveling Barfords but had done many years service. I suppose that at Stainton they would do more miles than at Ballidon as ours was a more compact quarry with no actual road network? We also had a pair of Atkinson dumpers that were smaller than the Foden’s but had the same ■■■■■■■ engine’s coupled to a six speed ZF gearbox in one and a rubbish David Brown six speeder in the other!

Pete.


One of the Aveling Barfords at the Gore Quarry in the 1960’s Pete.I think these could have had a Leyland engine in them.I may be wrong.
Cheers Dave.

Still not heard if anyones bought quarry,but been told amberhill are down to 5 lorries and they might be gone for end of month.

Ted barratt being loaded by jack mullins.

Albert Deakins new AEC.

paul motyka:
0Albert Deakins new AEC.

Keep em coming Paul where have u been hiding the aec,strange thing is I can remember the commers about when I was a kid,but can’t ever recall seeing any eight ledger aec,regards alan

Hi alan they had 3 aec 8 wheelers.

Last two pics from geoff bagleys collection.Middle commer has got brackets on for snow plough duties for council,butlers provided a few to maltby urban district council.

Last but not least one from the coronation showing samples of sand and stone that butlers supplied.Ernie butcher was the driver of this commer.

paul motyka:
Ernie butcher tipping in to parker plant with aveling barford.Called to see my stepfather today,the fodens had ■■■■■■■ engines that were not a problem,the main fault was the gearboxes and back axles although he can’t remember what type of g/boxes they had.

i worked on the foden dumpers as an apprentice in the late 50s at hill head quarry . the main problems were propshafts , pinion bearings and halfshafts . if the tip was boggy , the drivers (farmers etc ) would shove it in super low box and try to get out of the muck , something had to give . result , 2 of us lying in a foot of mud changing propshaft or halfshaft . why is it always raining when soothing breaks down ■■ cheers , dave

Thanks for reply rigsby,stepfather coming up to 80yrs old having trouble remembering a lot of info I had hoped to get from him and put it on here.

rigsby:
i worked on the foden dumpers as an apprentice in the late 50s at hill head quarry . the main problems were propshafts , pinion bearings and halfshafts . if the tip was boggy , the drivers (farmers etc ) would shove it in super low box and try to get out of the muck , something had to give . result , 2 of us lying in a foot of mud changing propshaft or halfshaft . why is it always raining when soothing breaks down ■■ cheers , dave

The road wagons were as bad, we always kept propshaft’s in stock as they would snap if you looked at them sideways! :open_mouth: A favourite spot was up by ‘The Mermaid’ pub when carting clinker from Blue Circle at Waterhouses to their Hope works, also reversing up stock heaps would sort them as well due to the very light air assisted clutch lacking in feel! Later on Foden fitted them with KEMPF shafts and that cured the problem, gearboxes were always a problem though with layshaft’s dropping out of mesh due to the clutch stop bolts shearing and also mainshaft nuts undoing until Foden modified them. Again we kept a rebuilt box in stock for a quick swap over, still have my workshop manual’s on standby just in case ha ha. :laughing:

Pete.

A couple of pics of butlers quarry from the early 30s by kind permission of eddie greensmith.L-R Fred Bowers.Harold Grindle.Les Brookes.

L-R Frank Challinor.Unknown.Herbert Lamming.Harold Grindle.The Foreman,Bill Maxfield.Eddies father Walter Greensmith sat at the front.No machinery in those days after breaking the stone it was handballed in to the lorries.