Busy Mr Trump

That’s how we know that it’s not the votes that matters to the politicians regarding Israel. This is a subject that is totally bi-partisan.

Funnily enough, when I saw that somewhat unconventional undiplomatic diplomacy playing out at the Whitehouse, it occurred to me then that those who would gladly back Farage domestically might not back a Farage who in turn backed apparent rogue-statesmanship abroad.

bugger me someone better tell the germans that or maybe its not us with limited comprehension.

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no idea… you posted a link to gmail

i have a source other than common sense that is…


seems like the only one people think is worse than keir starmer is liz truss. Thing is though only people that said they thought starmer was better than any of the previous pm’s were labour voters. yet every other party looked objectively and agreed liz truss was worse than starmer. Kinda shows who the narrow minded are doesnt it.

This would then lead to deportations presumably considering the track record. That then begs the question "Where to? "

Likely Russia? to join the now long-forgotten inhabitants of Mariupol? about whom we have heard nothing

It also begs the question: Is this mature statesmanship or childish spite?

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Despite the personal wealth of some Israeli citizens, they’ve been cap in hand now to the US for decades. They’ve had billions in aid, especially weaponry. The exact same argument trump is using against Ukraine, could be used against Israel and force them to meet for genuine talks over Palestine instead of this blatant stitch-up the far right are plotting (anyone see the exceptional weird and disagreeable notion that there even are far right people in Israel, shouldn’t they all be left of centre…)
It really is like the entire world has fallen through the Swiss Collider and come out as it’s evil twin.

“Plenty of rare metals villains have stashed away in Essex. We should sell Essex to Trump and use the wongar to prop up the NHS: well-cushti!”

For some reason my first thought reading that, (do they still do it? not dated an Essex girl for decades) you meant the tradition of Vajazzle. Except like farage, the crystals and metals are fake, not real gold and diamonds.

How does Farage saying that Parliament is out if step with public, on the subject of Ukraine and Trump, transfer to the popularity of past PMs?

At least apples and oranges are both fruits…No lettuces involved.

Which is factually untrue.
Although you posted a screen shot which does not break down the parties of respondents the site does.
And quelle suprize! Labour and Lib Dem prefer Starmer more than Tory and RefUKers.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-plans-revoke-legal-status-ukrainians-who-fled-us-sources-say-2025-03-06/

“Where to?” is one question.
But I am still picking my jaw off the floor, again.

Every time I think Trump can’t get any worse, he proves me wrong.

Oh so you got past 1.30 this time, did not ignore the rest, and you aint asking me to explain it to you like I was reading you a bedtime story.
You’re either slipping or getting better mate.

Yeah like I expected you to agree with ANY of it.:roll_eyes:

what to try that one again…

sunak /starmer. highest vote for starmer was labour voters.
truss / starmer highest vote for starmer by the conservatives and highest vote for starmer was labour voters
johnson/starmer highest vote for starmer was labour voters
may / starmer highest vote for starmer was labour voters.
cameron / starmer highest vote for starmer was labour voters.
brown / starmer highest vote for starmer was labour voters.
blair / starmer highest vote for starmer was labour voters.
major / starmer highest vote for starmer was labour voters.
thatcher / starmer highest vote for starmer was labour voters.

so would you like to rescind your previous or you just going to ignore it

So that this isn’t derailed into some rant about the lefty Guardian, which covers exactly the same story, I’ll quote Al Jazeera, who report that the Man Baby was, in its address to Congress last night, demanding Greenland surrender to its ambitions. with the following threat:

"But he made clear he would not give up if persuasion fails, saying: “One way or the other, we’re going to get it.”

Now that reads : “By fair means or foul” to any but the MAGA tribe.

It was reported that there were cheers and laughter from the MAGA Martians so my comparison really was valid.

Good point, well made.

Yep, if it wasn’t so serious…just one insane act after the other at the moment.
Threatening and enacting trade wars, the forced dispossession of starving civilians, the exile of genuine asylum seekers, putting unelected officials in charge of seeking the personal details of citizens, sacking military leaders and appointing those beholden to the Pres not to the country and it’s constitution, holding the owners of the friendly media close to him and barring the free press from access,… it just goes on.

And it is just beginning.

Is untrue as we can clearly see that both Lab and Lib Dem prefer Starmer over some other PMs.

sorry you need to look at your data again. major / starmer each got 28% of the votes. so they only people that thought starmer was better than any of the previous prime ministers was labour

i will concede this i meant to post the link as well as the screenshot as the table was embeded and i couldnt be bothered to wade through pages of evilscript looking for the image and i got distracted and forgot.

The data (YouGov’s not mine of course) says no such thing.
Just look at the table I screen shot.

Or to use the link to tables you gave
Look at the very first entry

Lib Dems 50% prefer Starmer, 19% prefer Sunak.
Same with all the Tory PMs, except Major where it is near 50/50.

Is untrue.