Busy Mr Trump

oh i see so that one doesnt count…
boss yes the pay rate is 18.74 ph as in the contract…
employee ok boss ive signed.

week later
employee im sorry boss it seems i havent been paid correctly it says here the hourly rate is 17 ph but the contract said 18.74
boss: oh no that was just a provisional one

im sure that will work

what happends in the real world with treaties is each country either signs it or doesnt. if they all agree and sign it stands and all are expected to stand buy it weather its zelensky or anyone else. if one country /party refuses to sign then its back to the drawing board. There is no provisional signing.

You can only provisionally agree to sign if its drawn up as discussed. ie if you build me a wall i agree to pay you 100 pounds. If you come back with a contract that says you will only build half the wall for 200 and i refuse to sign as it wasnt the original agreement then thats your fault.

This is BIG:

The Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) subcommittee revealed that since 2003, the US government has issued a staggering $2.7 trillion in improper Medicare and Medicaid payments, including to individuals overseas who were not eligible to receive them.

If it wasn’t for Musk and Trump, this wouldn’t have been uncovered. The scandals just keep coming…

Oh…the same DOGE that can’t even count the number of zeroes in a number?
The Biggest Hoaxes Spread By Elon Musk And DOGE, Debunked.

And that is Forbes, a well respected business site that is not a newly formed ??? marking it’s own homework.

LOL. :rofl:

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Notable that, the last I heard, no-one was in charge at DOGE.
Reporters have asked, apparently Judges have asked, but no one is prepared to put their hands up to it.
Musk is “overseeing” the effort, but the WhiteHouse spokesperson refused to name him as the boss. After all if it is a Gov dept it should have it’s boss approved by the Senate I think?

Anyone would think that Musk was frightened of repercussions if summat goes wrong. Think how many $$ he could lose if sued.

Interesting take.

The British Public and Donald Trump: A Reality Check
Jane McKell’s claim that the British “loathe” Donald Trump is as inaccurate as it is self-serving. The truth is far more nuanced. While the British political establishment and media elite may despise Trump—because he exposes their hypocrisy and refuses to play by their rules—millions of ordinary Britons admire his strength, leadership, and unapologetic defense of national interests.

Trump’s appeal lies in his results. Unlike the career politicians of the British Labour Party, Trump is a leader who delivers. In just his first term, he revitalized the U.S. economy, created jobs, strengthened border security, and prioritized working-class citizens over globalist elites. Compare this to Labour’s legacy: economic mismanagement, open-border policies that have led to crime and cultural tensions, and a complete betrayal of the British working class—the very people they claim to represent.

McKell’s attempt to contrast Trump with a so-called “gentleman” like Gareth Southgate is laughable. Since when did meekness and virtue signaling become the primary qualifications for leadership? True leadership is not about appearing “modest” in tailored suits while failing to deliver anything meaningful for your country. The British Labour Party has been led by a parade of weak, morally compromised figures—from the antisemitism scandals under Jeremy Corbyn to Keir Starmer’s inability to take a stand on even the most basic issues. These men embody cowardice, not leadership.

Trump, on the other hand, is bold and effective. He doesn’t pretend to be a polished, establishment-friendly figure—because he isn’t one. Instead, he is a results-driven leader who fights for his country, unafraid to challenge a corrupt system. If that offends the sensibilities of the British ruling class, so be it. The ordinary people of Britain—the ones ignored by Labour—see something different: a leader who gets things done.

Perhaps McKell and her ilk should ask themselves why so many working-class voters in both America and the UK are turning away from traditional political elites. The answer is simple: they are tired of being lied to, failed, and patronized by politicians who are more concerned with their own public image than with improving the lives of their citizens.

In the end, the real question is not whether Trump is a “gentleman” by the narrow, outdated definitions of the British upper crust. The question is whether he is an effective leader. By every meaningful measure, the answer is yes.

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It normally is. Rarely is anything simple, especially in politics.

YouGov show he is indeed liked by 34% of the UK, but at the same time disliked by 58%, with only 8% neutral.

OK.
US

The US economy grew under Trump at a slow and steady rate, no great shakes, but no disaster. “Revitalised”? I don’t think so.

US jobs? Rose at about the same rate under Trump as under Obama. (Up until 2019 and what happened then is summat else)

Border security? He replaced and improved border fences etc, and added all of 40 new miles. Not what he promised is it? And Mexico paid zilch.

Prioritised workers over the rich? Can’t see any evidence of that anywhere.

They certainly hear him saying a lot about what he has/is doing. I doubt most actually believe it !

That sounds like Trump !
Image and spin before any substance…seen his video?

I disagree, I couldn’t give a tuppenny one how he compares with “the upper crust”. I doubt many in the UK do.

OK.

Nope.

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so catching up with europe then

See MacArthur and the Yank Army bug out in Korea. Andrew Salmon: “Scorched Earth, Black Snow”

I was about to re.post my goat meme after the reply to Maoster from Franglais, I thought it appropriate.

But going by the 'Infestation! thread I have offended Franglais :joy:…rumour has it that at least one other on this thread is claiming offence by proxy and they have all booked in for trauma council keeping tight hold of their pearls.
The goat has responded with a ‘No comment’ but was then heard talking to his Uncle Billy something about a ‘Nanny state’ the Kids are in hiding
:joy:
Sorry there is enough humour on this thread already without my attempt.:grin:

Stop press the goat says he needs to put his pov.

well im sure you realise we have had the privilege of being called racist and a nazi by those that are intelligent apparently rather than us ignorant folk that call a spade a spade

An unfortunate turn of phrase there mate at the end, given the subject matter.:scream: :joy:

a shovel a shovel then

Seems there are Yanks who have opinions on Starmer similar to the Trump haters on here.:grin:

(Btw…Before the apologist and defender asks…
No I have no proof or evidence for the Hitler/Starmer vid the guy mentions :roll_eyes:)

Statista - Bias and Credibility - Media Bias/Fact Check they seem a neutral website

Indeed. Maybe you could pass that message on to to Starmer and his shambles of a government!

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I was ridiculed by a certain lefty apologist on here recently when I suggested that Musk and other top entrepreneurs are exactly the sort of people you want in your government because as successful business people they know how to weasel out of waste and maximize efficiency when it comes to finance.

LOLOL What utter bow locks.