Busy Mr Trump

After the statements from trump about Ukraine and their leader

Some of the rhetoric coming out of Kyiv, frankly, and insults to President Trump were unacceptable," Mike Waltz said during a briefing at the White House.

Looks like he can say what he wants to anybody but people should be nice to him regardless
As said before he holds all the cards

Thousands protest in Slovakia over ‘pro-Russia’ foreign policy

Thousands are protesting in Slovakia, demanding the prime minister resign over what they see as a foreign policy pulling the country closer to Russia.

It’s the latest in a regular series of demonstrations since early January, sparked by Robert Fico visiting Moscow in December to meet Vladimir Putin.

“Slovakia is Europe,” crowds in the capital Bratislava chanted, along with shouts of “enough of Fico”.

Fico ended military aid to Ukraine and is in dispute with Kyiv over the end of Russian gas transit.

The four-time prime minister has vowed not to resign.

What has Europe done to try to end the war?published at 18:33

Earlier today, Donald Trump doubled down on his criticisms of Europe’s handling of the war in Ukraine, claiming leaders Keir Starmer and Emmanuel Macron “did nothing” to end it.

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Comedy at least is going well…quickie…

What I was trying to get my tongue around earlier…
My hero Nige…swoon.:grin:
(Sorry that sounded a bit wrong :joy:)

Hmmm I can’t think why.:thinking:
Hey hang on… Do ya maybe think for a minute that everybody is sick to the core of their stomachs of mamby pamby wokist policies and attitudes superceding everything else,.and those individuals who perpetuate them ?
Surely not.:flushed:

Maybe they see Trump taking a hard line and banishing all that type of crap in favour of good old common sense and logic,.so they want similar in their countries.:thinking:
It will remain one of those mysteries of life.

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Grifter lying again

Yeah? So?
He’s a politician what do ya expect.
Ok I favour a lot of his policies, but I am under no illusions, neither would I stick up for him for the sake of it.

Just to redress the balance…(and make the haters cringe :joy:)
(Can I just add I have absolutely nothing against trans people, but after seeing that big bloke in the last olympics knocking 7 shades of sh out of that petite female boxer, this is where Trump makes a lot of sense.)

No. I specifically said that I did not think that everyone had jumped right.

I believe that some …but no way everyone…do see Trump as old fashioned common sense and logic.
No doubt about that at all.

I certainly do not see him as having any common sense, nor any form of logic at all.
I see him as a danger to democracy in the US, and as a danger to the world.

Is that hyperbole?
He is the most powerful man, in the most powerful country, and therefore, I think it is accurate.

When Hitler came to power he didn’t start with concentration camps and blitzkrieg.

He started with pointing to small groups and demonised them.
He banned books and cut off the free press.
He promised a great and glorious future for his chosen ones.
Any of that sound familiar?

Is Trump 1941 Hitler? No, he isn’t.
Is Trump 1934 Hitler? He might be.

And I am very sure that many will be saying “Nah, we had a world war to stop all that”
That is what they said about The Great War, “the war to end all wars” It didn’t.
It is very sure that we do not learn from history, until it is too late.

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@'SDU…Told ya I’d get back to you on this :smile:

I do get it about politicians, trust me.
I dont wear rosy specs ehen looking at them by any means,.and I take your point.

Trump ‘fan boy’ ? Nah not really, I have explained that one.
Hard right?..‘well I have been acused of being racist, even a Nazi’ by a couple of clowns on here so who knows?
(Me btw…NO.)
But you need to remember anyone in this country who does not agree with Starmer and his mad assed policies,.especially his inertia on illegal immigrants, is automatically …‘The Far Right’.:roll_eyes:
My 88 year old Auntie a lifeling Labour voter, who is the most quiet innofensive lovely lady you could meet disagrees…so yep, she’s ‘Far Right’.

Yep I love the NHS and I use it…
Why would I not,.I have paid tax and n.i. since I was 16 (20 years :smile:)
I think those who have contributed somewhere between zilch and and f.all, receive NHS treatment free and as a priority,.even depriving some like me…even private health care, who should not even be in the effin country…maybe ask their take on it before asking me.
As for pension yep…see above.

Trans Sports?
So Trump is sacking important Gov employees, and talking absolute bollox about war in Europe, cosying up to a dictator, and you post about trans sports…
He and his team of culture warriors have done a job on you haven’t they?

Recent immigrants to the UK need to pay extra to access the NHS. “Immigration Health Surcharge”
Where do you get that some groups have “priority” ?

Well it certainly seems to upset you…what did you say to me the other day?
Oh yeah ‘Calm Down’.

I’ve commented quite a lot on the volatile situation with Ukraine I reckon tbf…but thete ya go.
As for ‘doing a job on me’…nah I aint influenced on official lines mate…what about you?

Sorry if I have touched upon something that goes against your woke and socialist official narrative.
What were you saying before about ‘offending snowflakes’ ?..just remind me.:thinking:
:joy:
I dont know why you bother taking me on mate, because you always crash and burn.:sunglasses::wink:

I was referring to (in Franglaisspeak) ‘Irregulars in hostels’.:joy:
I gave you an anecdote about my own mate who had a friend who was a medical receptionist at the Doctor’s his family had used since he was a kid and what she told him why he could not be seen for x no of weeks

Tell ya what…have your usual trawl through my posts to TRY and prove me wrong as usual, no desire to go through it all again…what would be the point? :roll_eyes:

Fair enough. They are here, and like it or not, even these “fit young men of fighting age” need medical attention sometimes. They have in the past paid nowt, and since they cannot legally work, they are getting a free ride for now. True.

You did.
An anecdote, fine. It may well be true.
If I was the person involved and I thought that people were queue jumping against the rules then I would have mad an official complaint. Did your mate do that?
But bad administration by one place is certainly not an official policy is it?

@Franglais…just noticed your post comparing Trump to Hitler ffs…comedy gold.:joy:

Interesting you say you find Trump as a danger, and that you concentrate on him incessantly
It all goes back to the same thing …
I prefer to concentrate on the ‘danger’ the shortcomings, the incompetence, the dishonesty, the hypocrisy …(the list goes on) of our own leading politicians, because they affect me directly and immediately, rather than somewhere down the line later on as a knock on effect from a foreign govt.

I continue to find it amusing that you, …someone who almost maintained the political thread during the reign of the last govt, now have zero complaints on this one…especially as there is so much milage so much material, so much room for stats and back up links.:smile:
Bias sems to be your speciality,… impartiality not so much.

Maybe you should concentrate your frustrations a bit closer to home, leave the Trump disaproval to the Americans.
Ok you are entitled to an opinion on him, but when it is as full on, and as continuous as this, I worry (not really btw) of the effect it has on your mental demeanour.
:grin:

Exactly what I expected.
Just as the GB establishment went through the 1930’s laughing at the little man with the silly moustache. And I don’t mean Chaplin.
Hilarious.

When have I ever claimed to be impartial?

Go on! When?

I am biased. I have an strong dislike of liars. If some lies repeatedly i tend to assume that he will lie again.

I am prejudiced against cheats and against bullies. If someone takes advantage of weaker people I tend to dislike them. Whether or not they take advantage of me personally I tend to look on them as being an ■■■■■■■.

I do not like selfish money grabbing ■■■■■■■■ either.
I don’t think all rich people are bad, but those who make money by bankrupting others? Nah, I do have an emotional response to them, a sort of feeling that, although I personally may be no poorer, they do not deserve their wealth obtained by bad actions.

But hey! That is just the kind of wishy-washy, lefty, liberal, I am.

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I’m struggling to see the difference.

So, either King Elon and his puppet trump are mercilessly trolling us hoping to make us so very very cross that we spank putin’s arse and send him to bed without tea,
else those nobheads really are in bed with the russian mafia boss and have already planned how to divvy up the world between them all.

At heart I’m a pacifist, I don’t want to fight anyone. But threaten my family and I’ll surprise you with a haymaker to make your eyes water. Likewise I much rather we spent taxpayer’s money health, education, social care, housing, good transport, the environment, research and development, and the arts.

But until we figure out how to stop cowboys like putin riding roughshod over everyone else just to feather their own nest, and to burnish their war medals, maybe we do have to consider spending as much as 5% on defence. I’m just darned annoyed that that means feathering the already rich armaments industry.

(To reference 1984 again. The purpose of war is to waste wealth that might otherwise improve the standard of living for the masses. It doesn’t matter who fights who, as long as there is fighting. Hence in 1984 the war keeps switching between what is America, and Russia and China and Europe)

And believe me, I have chips on both shoulders, when slimy St Blair got in, I said at the time “red tories” I also have zero respect for starmer. he’s establishment, if he was a true socialist he wouldn’t accept let alone use his title. Tony Benn wasn’t perfect, but he had at least the decency to renounce his peerage so he could be a MP.

If you have kids, woe unto you as the bible would say in revelations. Yeah yeah us older freaks have freaked out before over various crisis since the 80s. So maybe we’re wrong now, but things ain’t looking too good governor.

Inequality off the scale, housing unaffordable for the young. Fewer real jobs and AI threatening to take away many creative, administrative and research jobs. And wars popping up all over the place. So with weird weather, flooding, clean water running out, food turning sour, energy costs soaring, roads crumbling, it could get a lot worse before it ever becomes good again.

AI combined with social media like X is potentially a serious threat to democracy. It seems that people just lack the capacity to enquire, check, cogitate, weigh up and decide for themselves without letting a loud man dictate for them. trump or elon makes some fake claim, and it’s instantly lapped up by millions. It looks like right now the far right in europe are actively learning and copying from the elon/trump playbook. Italy, Spain and Germany have had fascist dictatorships before. A few more deranged asylum seekers running amok, and before you know it, most of europe will turn hard right.

What we in the middle and left of centre need, is to swallow our distaste, and get equally nasty in politics to combat the far right, else we’re just gonna have 1930s repeated all over again. Are we gonna ineffectually spit our lentil soup out when the AfD takes control in Germany, when VOX takes control of Spain, when Marie whatsherfacename takes over as head snail muncher?

Because we nearly lost everything the last time we did nothing more than grumble as Titler goosestepped up the Reichstag. We don’t have the empire to help us now. We need to grow some balls quick and somehow rein in any power hungry neo nazi, gawd knows how though.

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@franglais lefty liberal is a contradiction in terms for me. Liberals or Liberal-National are to the right of centre here.

@robroy I’m not accusing you of being a Trump fanboy. I reckon your a bit like me, seeing good and bad policies on each side of the political divide. A vote for either side is a compromise of our beliefs.

There are those who tell their party what they want, and those who are told by their party what they want.
Unfortunately the political string pullers are peddling lies and disinformation, in a bid to win votes.
Usually elections are fought and won on a single, emotive issue, while other important policies are quietly ignored so the winner can surreptitiously sneak unpopular ideological, or controversial matters through.