Stupid nanny state attitudes from the lefty tofu Guardian.
Why can’t we eat import high pesticide foods if it makes business sense? Our big food companies need to make a profit in order to pay out their share holders.
Any shopper with a degree in organic chemistry and a properly set up laboratory at home can easily decide what is and isn’t safe for themselves.
Liz Webster has summat to say on the subject too.
Yes but these are yooropeeing pesticides; once we get our own proper British pesticides for proper British people, it’ll be OK. Coz we got natural immooonity to them foreign chemicals innit?
I’m loving the irony of everyone unknowingly consuming more pesticides following so closely on the rampant tirades against mRNA vaccines.
Anyways, £65 from Amazon and you’re sorted 
Could be a lot worse though…we could still be part of the EU.
But let’s not put reality in the way of (another 
…)good moan about Brexit.
7 years is it now?
Think we should maybe save the moaning for the present Labour Party govt I reck…just saying.
Strangely enough Franglais has been very quiet as of late over on the political thread.
Ironic really because you can bet your life on it that had it been the Tories or his best mate Boris doing all this, we would be subjected to the numerous daily links and articles in his never ending point scoring/proving a point obsession.
Who’s moaning? Just stating the facts as given by people more knowledgeable about international economics than either you, or I, or indeed the whole of TN combined.
And it’s not seven years since we exited the EU, it was only official as of 31/01/2020
Moaning about a government that is still establishing itself? They’ve only been in power for less than three months of a five year period, and a large amount of that was when Parliament was in recess (on f’in holiday in other words) But if that seems reasonable to you, carry on, though I’d suggest that’s analogous to criticizing a driver before he’s even finished his walkaround check.
Leaving the EU doesn’t seem to prevent deindustrialising though does it
Research by the CER suggests the UK economy is 2.5% smaller than it would have been if Remain had won the referendum. Public finances fell by £26 billion a year. This amounts to £500 million a week and is growing.
In 2016 the UK economy was about 90% the size of Germany’s in 2022 it was 70% that size.
And that is before Truss screwed things up further!
Truss/Kwarteng who had praise for their budget from a certain Farage.
I didn’t say you did I?..and I’m resisting quoting your ‘delicate soul’ crack btw, that you chucked at me in a similar situation…of direct role reversal😃
There has been an endless surge of belly aching, moaning, and downright petulance by a certain one or two since the referendum did not go their way.
We all know Brexit was a f/up, I as a Btexit voter get that, but mainly because it was implemented in the spirit of ‘We have to’ rather than ‘We WANT to’, so whats the point of keep rabbitting on about it rather than just get on with it.
‘Still establishing it’s self’ ?
All it has 'established so far is a plethora of incompetence and unawareness (or just plain ignoring) and a soupcon of hypocrisy.
And in such a short time.
Far right this, economic black hole that, it’s tiresome.
And to get back to glasses, maybe he should have went to Specsavers instead of Lord Ali for his gregorys, he read the word ‘hostages’ as ‘sausages’ in his speech earlier…I know not important, but still quite funny.
Actually I take exception to your assertion that it isn’t important. Can you imagine the furore if I walked into my local Greggs and asked for a “hostage roll”! There’d be hell to pay I tell you.
As your post followed directly after mine, that seemed a logical assumption to make
Show me where I wrote “delicate soul”? Because, using the “find” function, I can’t see where I am supposed to have written that, but I see you have written it several times
At least you can see that, there’s plenty more who still try (and fail) to claim it WAS a good thing
Even before the election I was fed up with Labour’s “script”, the main repetition being “The Tories have trashed the economy over the past 14 years”, which was broadly true, (most notably in terms of Truss) but not worthy of being a blanket, knee-jerk comment for every political interview.
So I can agree the rhetoric is tedious and needs to stop. But you can’t fairly judge them on such a short period. I suspect there will be subsequent events which are eminently judgeworthy, time will tell.
It’s going to haunt him as a meme for some time to come, and yes, in Chez Zac, we all laughed at his gaff, adults and teenagers alike. Mind you, I do a lot of speaking to groups of people (without an autocue though), and I know anyone can easily say a wrong word.
King Crimson singers experience of touring with the band post Brexit
So a few millionaire rock stars are a bit pi55ed because they are paying an extra couple of grand out of their multi million pound (or euro) earnings out of their European tours now, (the same as the American bands have done for years without complaint because they still make more than enough mark up on it anyway.)
And because of that ‘We did not know what we were voting for’.? .…aye right.
My heart bleeds for them, but in actual fact it rather illustrates what we were voting for, or the type of thing anyway.
In this case endless hurdles of unneccesary bureaucracy all funded by extravagant charges and cost, the trademark (or one of them) of the EU.
An organisation that we as a traditional proud independent nation had to answer to, whilst we paid millions into it, and got thousands back out, whilst being ruled by them in all but name…they succeded where Hitler failed, with their 4th Reich superstate and us kow towing to it.
I aint going to start on the immigration and Euro court of human rights b/s aspects, …but we knew exactly what we voted for.
What we got was a badly organised cluster ■■■■ of events and ■■■■ ups organised and set out by people who HAD to (and be seen to) negotiate and organise rather than WANT to negotiate and organise with any degree of enthusiasm or desire if success away from it…a kind of going through the motions for appearance sake, but with no interest as such.
Put in the mix of the EU being stubborn, un cooperative, and obstinate, (in fear of us starting a trend with other members, thus causing all the countless non job officials and unnecessary numerous bureaucrats, getting their snouts pushed out of the corrupt gravy train, where most of our expenditure went,)and consequently we were/are left with the f/up we have now.
Still…Starmer is presently doing his best to sneak us back in without Brexit voters noticing.
Apart from that LBC can not be trusted as a credible news source as they lean too much to the left, and Matthew Wright wears a ridiculous pony tail anyway, and has no fashion sense, so in terms of real news all they purvey is rubbish, so it totally closes down any discussion on it…mainly as the content is a bit uncomfortable for my beliefs to be honest.
(Last bit was a private joke btw, I was coming over all ‘Franglais esque’ for a minute )
If that was the only downside of Brexit, that would be one thing. But it isn’t the only problem is it?
It is just another of the many issues that were not seen by many, if anyone before Brexit happened. Indeed it was not seen because the Brexit campaigners were telling us that “there would be no downsides” etc.
Seen any Fly By Night trucks lately? Have a look at the reg plates on them.
Brexit has increased the paperwork for many UK businesses. Yes.
Is that a surprise? Since dropping border and customs regs meant lower costs when we were in the EU, why are you apparently shocked that it now costs more? What about that was not warned of?
Customs and admin are a feature of imports and exports in/out of all customs zones. Including bit not just the EU. That is why all over the globe countries are trying to set up free trade zones and ease the costs involved.
The UK has/is doing that again. Aus, NZ, Japan, USA, Canada, etc etc.
Everywhere except with our biggest and nearest trade partner where we cut away from the deal!
When we were in the EU we had a say in the rules and regs they set up.
The UK voted against (lost) 2% of votes up to 2016.
All of our trade with the EU, still our biggest and nearest partner, is under their rules still, but we now have no say in new rules.
The ECHR is not the EU.
The EU has 27 members. The ECHR has 46. Only Belarus, Russia, and the Vatican, are outside.
The EU stands up for it’s members and does not give the UK a special deal?
WTF would they? Pleading UK exceptionalism and looking for a better deal than we had as members, (indeed as members we had a better deal than newcomers to the EU) is pathetic bit of begging and blame shifting.
We have left , but you still blame the EU for everything!
Brexit was organised by the Johnson administration. He was in the Leave campaign. In 2019 his Tory manifesto was about getting Brexit done. The Tory candidates all fought on that basis. He won a big majority.
In what crazy world would anyone expect more than all of that?
A Brexiteer PM, with Brexiteer MPs who won a majority GE on a Brexiteer manifesto.
Yes, the angry bloke in the corner of the pub will be shouting “I could do better than that” but that is what he always says.
No real comment tbh, othet than exactly just what I expected …Put it down as another one of your ‘little victories’ if you so wish., I’ll just put it down to a waste of time arguing with the robotic brainwashed.
I don’t think it’s really much problem for the millionaire rockers, I think Coldplay or ed Sheeran can pay their staff to sort all this out
It’s the small cult bands like king crimson or the young lads who just want to chuck their guitars in a transit van and go on tour who I feel sorry for
Yeah good point.
Are there any original members of King Crimson left in that outfit? The ones I could have named died several years ago
The “roughing it in a transit van” idea died years ago, certainly for international work. Even bands playing the CIU clubs want to travel to gigs in their car, not in the back of a 3.5T Luton (memories of good times flooding back 
Boris would have sold his granny to become PM, he would also say anything if it meant becoming/staying on as PM. The whole 2019 “get Brexit done” manifesto was exactly that. I would have thought for someone such as yourself who hates him so much could see that.
Anyone who believes Brexit was a good idea should try to lay their hands on a current copy of the notes for the Transport Manager course (FYI, all TM courses for a long time now have included the international component as standard).
I cannot even begin to describe on here the mind-numbing complexity of international road haulage procedures.
But as I said before, pointing out ott and needless bureaucracy just illustrates a lot of what is wrong with it, and why we dhould be well away from it.
That type of bureacracy and b/s, not to mention extravagant snd unnecessary costs, are synonimous with it all.
I took my International CPC way back in the 80s, so I do not remember much about the exam, but I fail to see why appeasing their ways of things like wanting less of that type of bureacracy and general b/s, is a good reason for staying in…or in fact re.joining under King Keir.
