Brexit stuff in one place [MERGED]

I know I shouldn’t

India and China do not receive UK foreign aid.
Biggest recipients by far are Afghanistan and Ukraine.

UK banks did not stuff the pound in some of conspiracy! If they had then foreign banks would have snapped up the £. Fantasy.
Transport is now more expensive between UK and EU because of the extra checks involved. All goods need extra documentation that costs money. Extra customs officials are needed to check all of that, so extra costs there.
Brexit has led to a boom in the red tape sector.

No, but they could have pulled the plug on Soros to stop him getting out of his (this time) LONG GBP position at a small loss, rather than dumped their own currency ahead of him, and burned his arse…

Lots of countries get “Foreign Aid Cash” from Britain. It’s no secret at all.

WOT Red tape sector?

A 2023 Express article using data from 2020?
Is it possible they have an agenda?

Here is a 2023 gov uk report. https://researchbriefings.files.parliament.uk/documents/CBP-9224/CBP-9224.pdf

No denying that many countries get money from the UK. You earlier said that China and India do, but they don’t.

Indeed it is true that some developed countries receive UK foreign aid monies.
The money for hotels for irregular migrants, comes from the UK foreign aid budget.
Yep, Kent gets foreign aid.

One of the purposes of Brexit was to take back control. Boris dropped the ball almost as soon as he won in December 2019 however, leaving Brexit going off half-cocked. The agenda hasn’t changed. The foreign handouts - have likely increased since then.
The “Rwanda” thing is a dead duck, and needs to be dropped entirely. Put the Leftie Lawyers to work on something that BENEFITS this country, rather than merely stops the Tories implementing half-baked policies that clearly won’t work anyway.

This country is more worried about “Cost of Living” than by “Ukraine” or “Rwanda” or “Boats” or “Brexit” by this point.

Did you follow the link? Even your own article in the Express says that foreign aid has dropped and that 28% of it never leaves the UK.
But that all has SFA to do with Brexit.

One of the main slogans of Brexit was “take back control”
It rarely, if ever, specified what of or from whom.

No wonder that many people interpreted in many different ways, and tacked their ideas onto the slogan.
No wonder that they couldn’t all be satisfied then.

Ah, that old chestnut! “If only St Nigel was in charge!”?
Farage is the gobby bloke in the pub who would be a great team manager, but was never given the chance. If only he has not been looked over!
He is the warehouse bloke, never had a driving licence, who watches you reverse into a FLT and says “i would have done that better”.

If only he was that benign. He’s another populist, hoodwinking many with his “I’m a normal bloke” act. What utter BS.

Farage is entitled to his views and to express them, but the media was far too ready to normalise his politics and personality. There can be no doubt about Farage’s malign influence on British public opinion before, during and after the Brexit referendum.

It doesn’t matter if Farage is a snake oil salesman or not…
What matters is Farage has had more effect from a position of never being an MP than most MPs who become cabinet ministers…

The big thing that has changed since Brexit 2016 is the now-public awareness of the Deep State around the world, and in this country especially, protecting themselves from being removed from power.
They used to be just the “unelected” beaurocrats, the manderins of Whitehall, the security services, the foreign offices, etc.
These days however - all they do is conspire against the public good of not just UK citizens, but the entire Western Civlization as we know it.
The current agenda is to have a clean transfer of power FROM DS-Backed Tories TO DS-backed Labour as they are now, but were NOT under Corbyn…

RUK are the only “outsiders” who can stop that.
The Libdems and Greens? - Nope. They are there to prevent the main two parties winning too big a majority, and nothing more… A bit like a resistor coupled with a capacitor in an electronic circuit.

Trump too, is popular because he’s “Anti Establishment” read: Anti Deep State.

We’ve got a better future being against these power hungry freaks than we have being against other world superpowers.
We don’t have to let the 1% elites rule the 99% supermajority any longer.
They have proven time and time again that they cannot be trusted with our electoral support, especially when the voters think they can decide for them to go quietly into the night, whenver they want…
This coming election - will disappoint many, including the public about to vote IN it, I fear…

Yes, you are correct, he was selling a load of old bull, but he did sell it successfully.

What has changed is not due to Brexit, although the timing has some overlap, it is that some people’s thinking has been influenced more by the www.
If there is more belief in conspiracies now

then what will happen further down the line?

FFS! They are hardly “outsiders” public school boys who want to tell the masses how to think and act. And that is for the good of the already wealthy not for th good of the vast majority of us.
Not mainstream modern so in sense not the establishment, but the “Nasty Party” would recognise fellow travellers.

does anyone know if the “table of six” were elected in turkey

We seem to agree on that last point then… Once something happens enough in plain sight, it isn’t a conspiracy any longer - but a public outrage!

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winseer:

It doesn’t matter if Farage is a snake oil salesman or not…
What matters is Farage has had more effect from a position of never being an MP than most MPs who become cabinet ministers…

Yes, you are correct, he was selling a load of old bull, but he did sell it successfully.

winseer:

The big thing that has changed since Brexit 2016 is the now-public awareness of the Deep State around the world,

What has changed is not due to Brexit, although the timing has some overlap, it is that some people’s thinking has been influenced more by the www.
If there is more belief in conspiracies now

PubMed Central (PMC)

Have beliefs in conspiracy theories increased over time?

The public is convinced that beliefs in conspiracy theories are increasing, and many scholars, journalists, and policymakers agree. Given the associations between conspiracy theories and many non-normative tendencies, lawmakers have called for…

then what will happen further down the line?

winseer:

RUK are the only “outsiders” who can stop that.

FFS! They are hardly “outsiders” public school boys who want to tell the masses how to think and act. And that is for the good of the already wealthy not for th good of the vast majority of us.
Not mainstream modern so in sense not the establishment, but the “Nasty Party” would recognise fellow travellers.

Dunno why this is on the Brexit thread?

But Erdogan did badly in the elections last Sunday.

just read that if they got in they were going to open negotiations with the eu to join

Ah! Fair enough.

Turkey has had an association agreement with the EU since 1964.
A customs agreement since 1996.
In 2005/6/7 more talks ongoing.

Erdogan has been moving away from joining, but others still do want to join.
Whatever the the Turks wish they do have a set of criteria to meet and they are not close to them.

And just to remind those who believe otherwise “it’s all over and done with” still isn’t true, more imports check information was released this past week. And it is being enforced soon.

The “bureaucratic and inefficient” EU had their checks up and running on day 1.
Here in the UK we were still fixing the “oven ready deal” with the Windsor Agreement recently and are still as mentioned getting our act together.
This “nimbleness and ability to react quickly” shows our undoubted success in the past 4 years.

Maybe the Turkish People - don’t want to be “Ordered” by the EU and NATO to “Attack Russia” as part of the ongoing Proxy War between NATO/EU vs Putin/Russia…?

Erdogan thus far - has successfully balanced being apprently on BOTH sides, don’t forget…

As previously mentioned, extra Brexit checks come into play tomorrow…probably.

Brexit border chiefs left in the dark hours before new checks kick in – POLITICO

12 min video from Politics Joe here, but for me one of the highlights is about 6min30. Phil Pluck from the Cold Chain Federation talks about fresh food in trucks.

Badenoch has been quiet lately, but resurfaced a few days ago.
She was praised in the Fail, (no shock there) but others were…ummm…more critical of her.

Yes…she is arguing that because of Brexit we can have more freedom to eat and drink outside!
Wow, I mean just how chuffing gullible does she think the British public is?
Is she saying that the EU forbids or makes street cafes awkward? Has she never been to nor seen pictures of European towns?

Brexit has bought benefits, of course it has, no one can deny that, but this isn’t one of them.

Edit
One Brexit benefit is that Hastings has fewer tourists.
Ireland and Malta have both benefitted.
Tory MP demands Brexit damage to school group tourism is eased

I never thought there were restrictions for UK street dining, within reason of course.
Coincidentally I was just saying to the Mrs a few weeks ago how commonplace it has become over last few years,…even in places you would not expect.

Cant really see what Brexit has to do with it though tbh.

Brexit has nothing to do with it.

Badenoch was claiming (in sheer desperation to find summat) that we now had street cafes because of Brexit.
As if nowhere in the EU had them !