Franglais:
tmcassett:
LOL, oh the irony."Don
t tell me to shut up because you dont like what I post.
Wasn’t aware I used the words “shut up”, unless you are reading things I can’t see? The only text I can see above is “oh the irony”.
JeffA:
I was just wondering if it had ever crossed your mind that you’ve claimed more in benefits than an illegal migrant ever will.
Really? Did it never cross your mind at any point when typing that just how ridiculous a statement that is! 
Irrelevant of what or how many benefits a working UK born and bred citizen will claim, they are entitled to claim that as a native to the country that they originated from and have paid into the system for x amount of years. Contrast that to the economic scroungers crossing the entire continent to come here and get their grubby hands on our handouts without any contribution whatsoever because our current system is too soft and allows them - and you seem to think this is okay judging by your comment above. Yawn
robroy:
and with a hope of shutting Franglais up moaning and gloating
You do know there’s more chance of Newcastle winning the treble than that happening. 
tmcassett:
robroy:
and with a hope of shutting Franglais up moaning and gloatingYou do know there’s more chance of Newcastle winning the treble than that happening.
Oooh you ■■■■■ !!
tmcassett:
Franglais:
tmcassett:
LOL, oh the irony."Don
t tell me to shut up because you dont like what I post.Wasn’t aware I used the words “shut up”, unless you are reading things I can’t see? The only text I can see above is “oh the irony”.
Straw Man fallacy.
I didn`t put the words shut up within any quotes attributed directly to you. If you care to go back to your source and follow the link that will be apparent.
But the essence of your post is that I should shut up isnt it? The essence of most of your posts is that you dont want to hear about bad Brexit things.
Really want me to shut up? (However you phrase it) Well, do summat about it. Here is the full quote from me again, just in case you gave up halfway through
“Dont tell me to shut up because you dont like what I post. Show me where I am wrong.”
Try talking about Brexit, show me what a good thing it is.
robroy:
Brexit has not worked nor gone to plan.
tmcassett:
robroy:
and with a hope of shutting Franglais up moaning and gloatingYou do know there’s more chance of Newcastle winning the treble than that happening.
Show me how good Brexit is and give the Toon some hope!
tmcassett:
JeffA:
I was just wondering if it had ever crossed your mind that you’ve claimed more in benefits than an illegal migrant ever will.Really? Did it never cross your mind at any point when typing that just how ridiculous a statement that is!
Irrelevant of what or how many benefits a working UK born and bred citizen will claim, they are entitled to claim that as a native to the country that they originated from and have paid into the system for x amount of years. Contrast that to the economic scroungers crossing the entire continent to come here and get their grubby hands on our handouts without any contribution whatsoever because our current system is too soft and allows them - and you seem to think this is okay judging by your comment above. Yawn
Kids in the UK receive free health care and free education. Its pretty good, but could ,and IMHO should be better, but so long as we have too many whinging about taxes, that isn`t likely.
Those kids grow into adults and most of them work and contribute to society and/or the tax pot.
Immigrants are often already educated and have gone through their childhood diseases.*
They arrive here ready to work and contribute to the country.
The NHS recruits staff abroad; fit people ready to work and trained at the expense of often poorer foreign countries.
They work here and contribute much.
Immigrants are entitled to free NHS treatment for accidents and infectious diseases. We don`t allow people to lie bleeding in the street, nor allow disease to spread. They are not entitled to free maternity nor chronic disease treatment.
*How often have we heard “fit young men of fighting age”? Hardly a drain on resources!
“Migrants are healthier, on average, than the UK born. In 2019, 27% of the foreign-born population said that they had a long-lasting health problem; this is 15 percentage points lower than the UK born (42%).”
“Migrants who have lived in the UK for longer are more likely to have health problems than those who arrived recently, even when comparing people in the same age groups.”
“The share of residents reporting a long-lasting mental health problem is 5% for the foreign born and 10% for the UK born.”
migrationobservatory.ox.ac.uk/r … in-the-uk/
No replies Frangers…Do you think you’ve finally bored the arse off everybody on this, by trying to keep it current, where most of us are just accepting the sh situation and moving on without needlessly and aimlessly belly aching about it?..especially after us continually (and pointlessly) trying to give our pov and explanations to you for the ■■■■ poor situation concerning the ‘B’ word.
So just knock the lights out, and lock the door when you eventually get the message mate .
Cheers.
Everybody else…Shhhhhhhhhhh, just leave him to it, he’s happy. 
robroy:
JeffA:
I was just wondering if it had ever crossed your mind that you’ve claimed more in benefits than an illegal migrant ever will.I was saying a single person who is fit enough not to use the health service will claim the least benefits.
So you’re quite happy everyone else having to cough up for your kids but you don’t like coughing up for migrants? Not very fair is it? If you have kids why not pay for them yourself? Isn’t that what Thatcher would have said?
.Has it crossed my mind?
Why would it ?..
The system is what it is.
Difference being between me and these scroungers is that I as a British born subject am fully entitled, me and my family have paid tax whilst working for generations, that is good enough for me for ny conscience to be clear.
Now whether it covers what we take out is irrelevant…it’s the system we are governed to work to, the only deal on the table.I’m perfectly happy to see my kids being subsidised by like minded taxpayers…yes, as I keep saying it is how the system works…
It all goes in the pot to keep the system going,.and the future secure for education for the next generation, where as contributing to the 6 mill a day is a complete waste of funds that could be put to much better use…let’s start by sending the [zb] s back to where ever,and housing the homeless in their place.
Conscience clear mate.
2nd half of game starting got to go.
Well if you’re living in the UK you abide by a certain percentage sponging off you. People who don’t have kids have to put their hands in their pockets for other peoples bloody kids. Has that never crossed your mind? That someone else is paying for you kids? I don’t suppose it ever has has it. As long as the money’s coming your way from someone else who cares eh?
To be honest - if the moneys being robbed from me to pay for your kids education or some migrants hotel room - what difference is it to me? Do you think I should feel better paying towards some strangers kids rather than some migrants hotel room? Is that my patriotic duty? Cos I’m skint either way.
I’ve never had a house fire yet my taxes still pay for the fire brigade. Should I be upset?
JeffA:
robroy:
JeffA:
I was just wondering if it had ever crossed your mind that you’ve claimed more in benefits than an illegal migrant ever will.I was saying a single person who is fit enough not to use the health service will claim the least benefits.
So you’re quite happy everyone else having to cough up for your kids but you don’t like coughing up for migrants? Not very fair is it? If you have kids why not pay for them yourself? Isn’t that what Thatcher would have said?
.Has it crossed my mind?
Why would it ?..
The system is what it is.
Difference being between me and these scroungers is that I as a British born subject am fully entitled, me and my family have paid tax whilst working for generations, that is good enough for me for ny conscience to be clear.
Now whether it covers what we take out is irrelevant…it’s the system we are governed to work to, the only deal on the table.I’m perfectly happy to see my kids being subsidised by like minded taxpayers…yes, as I keep saying it is how the system works…
It all goes in the pot to keep the system going,.and the future secure for education for the next generation, where as contributing to the 6 mill a day is a complete waste of funds that could be put to much better use…let’s start by sending the [zb] s back to where ever,and housing the homeless in their place.
Conscience clear mate.
2nd half of game starting got to go.Well if you’re living in the UK you abide by a certain percentage sponging off you. People who don’t have kids have to put their hands in their pockets for other peoples bloody kids. Has that never crossed your mind? That someone else is paying for you kids? I don’t suppose it ever has has it. As long as the money’s coming your way from someone else who cares eh?
To be honest - if the moneys being robbed from me to pay for your kids education or some migrants hotel room - what difference is it to me? Do you think I should feel better paying towards some strangers kids rather than some migrants hotel room? Is that my patriotic duty? Cos I’m skint either way.
■■■■ me Jeff …how many more times.■■
No it has not crossed my mind…and I have stated repeatedly why.
Just because you keep asking me the same question,I ain’t going to change my answer.
I dont like in the literal sense paying ANY taxes, but I fully accept I have to.that is how the system works.
I’ve already stated the kids thing does not bother me, it’s a bit like saying I dont like paying for blind people cos me or non of my family are blind,… it’s a ridiculous way of looking at things.
Just cos you have no kids it has ■■■■ all to do with me mate, nor do I care, but as I said go out and get yer leg over if it bothers you so much. .
I would much rather pay towards kids,…even yours Jeff, or animals, birds or fish and ■■■■■■ reptiles than some ■■■■ foreign sponger who has decided to come over here for NO other reason than to live off what he sees as the land of milk and honey at MY expense, rather than stay the ■■■■ at home and provide for himself.
Have I finally got through to you, or are you gonna keep on asking me the same ■■■■ questions ?
It’s like pulling teeth ffs…are you just on a wind up or what?
At least with Frangers he varies his points about Brexit whilst boring every ■■■■ whilst he makes them.
robroy:
some [zb] foreign sponger who has decided to come over here for NO other reason than to live off what he sees as the land of milk and honey at MY expense
There are some who do come here to get summat for nothing.
But as I posted above as a group immigrants put more into the system than they takeout.
Here`s another link for you ucl.ac.uk/economics/about-d … %20billion.
“Immigrants from outside the EU countries made a net fiscal contribution of about £5.2 billion, thus paying into the system about 3% more than they took out. In contrast, over the same period, natives made an overall negative fiscal contribution of £616.5 billion.”
You were lied to by Farage about Brexit. Now you are believing the crap he spouts about “those foreigners”.
So long as he and others perform distraction techniques, you won`t be looking at those nearer home, sitting in the Lords and Commons, robbing far more than all the “foreign spongers” put together.
As men get older rob, their minds become ever more rigid in their thought patterns, and it becomes harder and harder for them to learn. Don’t let it happen to you mate.
So just remind me, how much do these guys in our all inclusive foc hotels contribute?
Yeah obvious 2 words (■■■■ and all.)
Dont give me all the ■■■■■■■■ about the Tories needing to sort out the asylum system and get them processed, so they can settle and contribute, we are an ISLAND, and an over populated one at that, So unless you believe the ‘all welcome to enhance our (multi) culture’ of which am confident you have swallowed, you being you, the fact is they are neither needed nor wanted, so they should be either stopped at point of exit, entry , or somewhere in between, and sent packing the ■■■■ back home.
We just do not need to import criminals and terrorists,.we have enough of our own.
Speaking from a ‘Stop ■■■■ ing about’ and ‘Call a spade a spade’ perspective. 
JeffA:
As men get older rob, their minds become ever more rigid in their thought patterns, and it becomes harder and harder for them to learn. Don’t let it happen to you mate.
My mind is,.l and always has been open mate.
I hear things, but do not necessarily believe them at the first instance,.(and rarely believe them at all if the source is from any official body)
I then listen to both sides, process them,.and weigh up what I believe and what I dont,.and not what I am urged or told to believe.
What my mind is usually closed to is complete b/s especially politically motivated b/s.
Hope that answers your theory and advice…(again which I have processed and decided over.)
the maoster:
This
Where did you get that from?
Is that a recruiting poster for ISIS or Hezbollah?
All complicated problems have a simple solution.
And is is always wrong.
Franglais:
the maoster:
ThisWhere did you get that from?
Is that a recruiting poster for ISIS or Hezbollah?All complicated problems have a simple solution.
And is is always wrong.
Okay let’s stop ■■■■■■■ around and cut to the quick. How many immigrants are you personally housing? If you tell me that you personally are housing one immigrant or even better an immigrant family then I honestly will salute you, you will have my utmost respect. If you tell me that you’re housing zero you will have the opposite of my respect.
Let’s be honest here Franglais; if you personally aren’t putting your money exactly where your mouth is then it’s just wind and ■■■■, it’s merely posturing and liberal hand wringing. Don’t despair though, you are merely A N other in a long list of posturers if that’s the case.
the maoster:
Franglais:
the maoster:
ThisWhere did you get that from?
Is that a recruiting poster for ISIS or Hezbollah?All complicated problems have a simple solution.
And is is always wrong.Okay let’s stop ■■■■■■■ around and cut to the quick. How many immigrants are you personally housing? If you tell me that you personally are housing one immigrant or even better an immigrant family then I honestly will salute you, you will have my utmost respect. If you tell me that you’re housing zero you will have the opposite of my respect.
Let’s be honest here Franglais; if you personally aren’t putting your money exactly where your mouth is then it’s just wind and ■■■■, it’s merely posturing and liberal hand wringing. Don’t despair though, you are merely A N other in a long list of posturers if that’s the case.
Im probably housing as many migrants as youre housing veteran soldiers.
What a silly argument to make.
Do I think we should pay more tax to have better hospitals? Yes I do.
But I dont intend setting up a DRs surgery in my front room!
As I said, complicated problems always have simple solutions.
And they`re always wrong.
Blaming a few thousand immigrants for the millions shortfall in our housing stock is foolish.
Blaming migrants for low wages when other countries have more migrants and better wages? Go on, work it out!
And there we have it. Wind and ■■■■. Happy to pontificate but less happy to actually do anything about it.
Franglais:
robroy:
some [zb] foreign sponger who has decided to come over here for NO other reason than to live off what he sees as the land of milk and honey at MY expenseThere are some who do come here to get summat for nothing.
But as I posted above as a group immigrants put more into the system than they takeout.
Here`s another link for you ucl.ac.uk/economics/about-d … %20billion.
“Immigrants from outside the EU countries made a net fiscal contribution of about £5.2 billion, thus paying into the system about 3% more than they took out. In contrast, over the same period, natives made an overall negative fiscal contribution of £616.5 billion.”You were lied to by Farage about Brexit. Now you are believing the crap he spouts about “those foreigners”.
So long as he and others perform distraction techniques, you won`t be looking at those nearer home, sitting in the Lords and Commons, robbing far more than all the “foreign spongers” put together.
How many millions of pounds did "baroness " bra help herself to, during the COVID crisis?
She’s been found out, but I don’t see anybody kicking of about that…
That’s just one example, how many “mates” did ■■■■■■■ and Goveygoveygovey and Boris give millions of pounds to, under the pretence of “providing much needed NHS supplies”…■■
Never mind, the gravy train is still calling at all Westminster stations for fiddles, evasions, and downright thefts…
Just try to imagine what you would do, if this island turned into a war or famine ravaged hell hole, and you knew of a place abroad, where live might be better.
Oh wait, you already did. But you had the remnants of an empire to run off to…
Countries that weren’t your to begin with. But you were happy to move there. And then expected the indigenous people to not only accept you, but change their own way of life, to yours…
Karma doesn’t just collect from individuals…