Quote from Mirror today: A full report into the incident on December 22 will be sent to prosecutors by the end of the month. Justice secretary Michael Matheson said that the Crown Office would be considering the report. By the end of February it would " provide further details as to the timescale for any further investigations that may be required"…Unquote. So is anybody telling me that it is acceptable for the victims and the poor chap just out of hospital with the this on his mind to have to wait, I for one wouldnt want to have that stress, remember every day " There but by the grace of God…" you turn the key and …
Norfolk, sometimes it’s the technical work that takes time.
Stuff like eye witness statements can be done quite quick when a big team of officers are thrown at it such as this, getting all the CCTV together and getting copied to a suitable viewable format can take time. It’s stuff like getting the medical evidence checked and wrote up (doctors are well known for taking time)
Also allowing a suitable time for the driver (as you point out just out of hospital) to be interviewed.
stagedriver:
Ok I’m sorry I’ve bit my tongue as long as possible.How many of you have actually been down to the scene of this accident and had a look for yourselves?
The final resting place of the lorry done VERY little damage to the wall it impacted with - Only a broken piece of glass, so the truck was obviously slow by this stage.
Whether or not the driver had a heart attack will be discovered, considering there was no damage to the cab as such it’s clear that by remaining in hospital something is wrong with the guy. The only time that charges would be pressed is if he knew about a condition and didn’t disclose it.
This crash has had an effect on this city, just like the Clutha did.
I lost a friend in this accident so watching some of you argue such pointless issues that you know absolutely nothing about just boils my blood.
This topic should have been locked a long time ago.
Quite right.Nobody knows what happened at the moment but put yourselves in the driver’s shoes and think how he feels.Stop being expert and wait.
Stop the the item
think this may change one or two on heres views
in what way??
Latique:
think this may change one or two on heres views
What do you mean?
All I read is driver says he has no memory of event and no previous heart conditions.
Full report due to be released by end of this month that should hopefully give some closure to the poor families and friends affected.
Just read this on Yahoo news feed
Frantic attempts were made to stop a Glasgow bin lorry as it killed six people last December, Sky News has learned.
Two colleagues who were inside the cab of the vehicle with the driver, tried to rouse him after he had collapsed.
The pair, who Sky News has chosen not to name, shouted to him that he was killing people and shook him.
Their efforts were hampered by a metal rail inside the cab between the driver and other crew, who sit on a raised bench in the rear.
It presented an obstacle and inflicted injuries on at least one of the pair as they were jostled by the erratic movement of the vehicle.
A succession of collisions meant the driver’s weight shifted on the steering wheel which, in turn, caused sudden changes in the lorry’s course.
There was an air-brake in the cab which slowly reduces speed but neither of the two crew was trained in how to drive the bin lorry and so neither knew how to bring it to a halt.
The vehicle only came to rest after crashing into the Millennium Hotel in Glasgow’s George Square.
The two crew members first realised something was wrong after they had stopped to make the penultimate pick-up of their round outside the Primark store in Queen Street.
As the vehicle set off again, it swerved and then proceeded on its fatal journey, about 400 metres towards George Square.
The driver has been named as 58-year-old Harry Clarke.
Following the incident, a blood sample was taken from him and he tested negative for drink-driving.
He has since reportedly said that he was diagnosed with a heart condition following the crash on 22 December last year.
Examination of on-board monitoring equipment showed it travelled at just over 20mph for roughly 40 seconds as the tragedy unfolded.
As a bin lorry driver, he was routinely required to insert a driver’s tacho-card - a digital device that records a driver’s details such as hours spent on the road and speed driven - into a dashboard slot.
He had not done so on the day of the crash.
Whether that was a factor or a minor irregularity that has no relevance to the crash will be a decision for Scotland’s Crown Office.
The office is currently considering a police report on the incident. It will also decide whether or not a Fatal Accident Inquiry (FAI) will take place into the circumstances of the crash.
The GMB Union, which represents the two crew members on board the refuse truck, has told Sky News it would welcome an inquiry.
Cal Waterson, regional organiser of GMB Scotland, said: "I wouldn’t like to speculate at the moment because we’re still waiting for the police report to be published but, obviously, there was pressure being put on the accelerator.
“How would the crew have been expected to prevent that? That’s something that I hope a Fatal Accident Inquiry would look into and be able to come up with some recommendations whereby we can put in some overriding device in the rear of the cab or something similar.”
uk.news.yahoo.com/frantic-bid-s … ml#Azk4fgl
I was wondering about the section I’ve highlighted, I thought bin lorries and local authority trucks in general were exempt. As with any accident, they don’t take long to unfold
Examination of on-board monitoring equipment showed it travelled at just over 20mph for roughly 40 seconds as the tragedy unfolded
no matter what the resulting consequences. Hardly time for any one to react
eddie snax:
Just read this on Yahoo news feedFrantic attempts were made to stop a Glasgow bin lorry as it killed six people last December, Sky News has learned.
Two colleagues who were inside the cab of the vehicle with the driver, tried to rouse him after he had collapsed.
The pair, who Sky News has chosen not to name, shouted to him that he was killing people and shook him.
Their efforts were hampered by a metal rail inside the cab between the driver and other crew, who sit on a raised bench in the rear.
It presented an obstacle and inflicted injuries on at least one of the pair as they were jostled by the erratic movement of the vehicle.
A succession of collisions meant the driver’s weight shifted on the steering wheel which, in turn, caused sudden changes in the lorry’s course.
There was an air-brake in the cab which slowly reduces speed but neither of the two crew was trained in how to drive the bin lorry and so neither knew how to bring it to a halt.
The vehicle only came to rest after crashing into the Millennium Hotel in Glasgow’s George Square.
The two crew members first realised something was wrong after they had stopped to make the penultimate pick-up of their round outside the Primark store in Queen Street.
As the vehicle set off again, it swerved and then proceeded on its fatal journey, about 400 metres towards George Square.
The driver has been named as 58-year-old Harry Clarke.
Following the incident, a blood sample was taken from him and he tested negative for drink-driving.
He has since reportedly said that he was diagnosed with a heart condition following the crash on 22 December last year.
Examination of on-board monitoring equipment showed it travelled at just over 20mph for roughly 40 seconds as the tragedy unfolded.
As a bin lorry driver, he was routinely required to insert a driver’s tacho-card - a digital device that records a driver’s details such as hours spent on the road and speed driven - into a dashboard slot.
He had not done so on the day of the crash.
Whether that was a factor or a minor irregularity that has no relevance to the crash will be a decision for Scotland’s Crown Office.
The office is currently considering a police report on the incident. It will also decide whether or not a Fatal Accident Inquiry (FAI) will take place into the circumstances of the crash.
The GMB Union, which represents the two crew members on board the refuse truck, has told Sky News it would welcome an inquiry.
Cal Waterson, regional organiser of GMB Scotland, said: "I wouldn’t like to speculate at the moment because we’re still waiting for the police report to be published but, obviously, there was pressure being put on the accelerator.
“How would the crew have been expected to prevent that? That’s something that I hope a Fatal Accident Inquiry would look into and be able to come up with some recommendations whereby we can put in some overriding device in the rear of the cab or something similar.”
uk.news.yahoo.com/frantic-bid-s … ml#Azk4fgl
I was wondering about the section I’ve highlighted, I thought bin lorries and local authority trucks in general were exempt. As with any accident, they don’t take long to unfold
Examination of on-board monitoring equipment showed it travelled at just over 20mph for roughly 40 seconds as the tragedy unfolded
no matter what the resulting consequences. Hardly time for any one to react
They’re exempt from EU tacho driving rules, but can still use a tacho for record keeping - who was driving when that ticket came in, have they had their breaks, wtd hours etc…
You can select Out of Scope
waynedl:
eddie snax:
As a bin lorry driver, he was routinely required to insert a driver’s tacho-card - a digital device that records a driver’s details such as hours spent on the road and speed driven - into a dashboard slot.He had not done so on the day of the crash.
Whether that was a factor or a minor irregularity that has no relevance to the crash will be a decision for Scotland’s Crown Office.
I was wondering about the section I’ve highlighted, I thought bin lorries and local authority trucks in general were exempt.
They’re exempt from EU tacho driving rules, but can still use a tacho for record keeping - who was driving when that ticket came in, have they had their breaks, wtd hours etc…
You can select Out of Scope
Oh right, didn’t realise that, I suppose a council would love all the beurocracy involved in driver hours, and general record keeping 
Bin lorries are exempt from EU rules on domestic refuse collection for local authorities…not so sure about trade waste.
GasGas:
Bin lorries are exempt from EU rules on domestic refuse collection for local authorities…not so sure about trade waste.
+1. I’d think commercial refuse collection is in-scope and would require a tacho to be fitted and used, and under EU rules. I can’t see any exemption that would cover that activity… ?
Theres no exemption for private companies collecting trade waste.