I’ve always believed that the more complicated the pay sounds, the less it’s likely to end up working out.
Grafters will find themselves exected to put in more work in the same timeframe, whilst hourly paid will struggle to hang some jobs out.
It’s horses for courses. If you’re paid by a small private firm, then hourly paid is probably best.
Paid by the day is probably best for domestic runs, and paid by the hour best for any job with no planners to screw it all up. 
Personally, I like hourly pay, and don’t like it when I’m planned to finish dead on 9 hours - ie right at the end of “happy hour” - that hour you work for nothing because an hour is docked for meal break. 
Yes, I’m as guilty as anyone else of speeding up a bit when nearly finished ahead of 8 hours, and slowing down when I’m going to run beyond 9. 
Hourly pay with a proper overtime rate.
IMO, sallaried works infavour for the company 99% of the time.
One of the bus companys in east london went on to salary, the company ‘bribed’ the drivers with a one off payment of £600, iirc.
The drivers now regret it.
Jack-knife:
U get a % of what the truck earns!
U be luckey to get 20%
How you work that out I don’t know?
!!
It used to be 21% on full percentage usually, you get told what each job is worth and make a note of it, so next time you do the same job you can check the job rate. It does involve a certain amount of trust on the part of the driver, but I never had a lot off problems with it, but I’am talking 20 years ago.
Unless you a quoting for the work yourself
I have had a job where I would ring customers to get my backloads, I was given list off, for want of a better description approved customers. I would agree or refuse rates for what I thought was worth doing, and get a percentage of the backload earnings. I enjoyed that work aswell
Rob K:
The best way to get paid is by buttons! 
That’s all I’d pay you in anyway.
ROG:
bonnie lass:
Hi all , I’ve been trying to think about which method of payment for work is going to be the most beneficial way 
and what are the ‘pit falls’ to avoid 
If any of you had a choice of getting paid by either
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the hour
-
self employed
-
per trip
-
or another way
What would you choose & why please?
Number 1
It then puts the pressure onto the planners to ensure they do not route you onto routes which can cause long hold ups and send you to places where you could be waiting for hours to unload etc
If the planners do route you and you get hold ups then you are happier knowing that you are getting paid
Taking the pee by going the long way or deliberately going slower than needs be will usually get the driver their cards especially as many firms have trackers fitted
To me the driver and the company are now covered by paying an hourly rate
Thanks rog, I have known one place to be not so very pleasant if you get held up through no fault of your own , or maybe they were having a bad day!
Most of the trucks I have driven had trackers, no problem there, cheers 
maga:
I’m paid on the last Friday of every month and paid by the hour.
Monthly pay is seriously crap but what can ya do, it’s the same for everyone where I am.
I wish I was on day rate and paid weekly tbh
Thanks maga, I don’t mind monthly pay providing its a half decent wage, I can budget well although it only takes one big bill to mess things up, cheers
dozy:
Think it only really matters when your young,just got a house,babies etc ,living week to week,then you want to be paid weekly,as you get older it doesn’t really matter as house is paid for,no debts,you’ve got everything you pretty much need,save most of your wages,so weekly ,fortnightly,monthly it matters little as you should have plenty of money in bank to cover you.
Thanks dozy, I would have thought the method & timing of payment is important whatever your age, as not all of us are able or in a position where we own our own house, & indeed not everyone will have any savings either. I have had bad knock backs in life through no fault of my own, but never quit trying to make things work out.
I quite see what you are saying though, & thats great to hear that some are in a position in life , & good luck to them cheers
Rob K:
The best way to get paid is by buttons!
Cheers Rob k
rob22888:
limeyphil:
I hate hourly pay. Far too many drivers stretch it out to a full 15 or 13 every day. So the grafters get paid less.
I’m the opposite.
Quite often salary = job & knock. Drivers develop a “get done as quickly I can” approach and before you are know it the planners are giving you more to do. You become you own worst enemy, doing more work for the same cash.
Thanks rob 22888, I can see the point your makinv there, cheers
Truckulent:
ROG:
[quote="bonnie lass"Hi all , I’ve been trying to think about which method of payment for work is going to be the most beneficial way and what are the ‘pit falls’ to avoid If any of you had a choice of getting paid by either
-
the hour
-
self employed
-
per trip
-
or another way
What would you choose & why please?
Number 1
It then puts the pressure onto the planners to ensure they do not route you onto routes which can cause long hold ups and send you to places where you could be waiting for hours to unload etc
If the planners do route you and you get hold ups then you are happier knowing that you are getting paid
Taking the pee by going the long way or deliberately going slower than needs be will usually get the driver their cards especially as many firms have trackers fitted
To me the driver and the company are now covered by paying an hourly rate
Sense from Rog^^^^^
I charge by the hour with an overtime rate. Works because of the above reasons as stated by Rog. The company know where they are and so do I. If I get held up then I know I’m earning. If the company want me to do a 15 hour day then fine, that’s what they pay for.
All these other methods, bonuses etc. are often done to provide a smokescreen to hide what is effectively a [zb] wage.
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Thanks truckulent, I take it you are self employed, it seems like a fairer & more straightforward way to earn a wage. How difficult is it to keep records & accounts straight for tax man? While keeping on top of it all, do you find any problems with late payers, or get awkward companies / people who don’t want to settle their bill ? & how would you deal with that situation ?, Cheers
eddie snax:
I’ve been paid in many different ways,
Full percentage, earned well and some off it was done legal 
though the hours carried out would probably meant it was shocking hourly rate 
Hourly, which is fine til you get told too park for the night at 3pm or so and start next day at 7am, as a tramper I hated that. I’ve also found that the hourly rates I’ve been offered were poor
Daily rate with bonus percentage, you feel that there is reward for effort and I liked this method quite alot, and I didnt allways max my hours, no point hanging the job out.
Daily rate with bonus mileage, again reward for effort, this method not bad, but hurts when you get alot off city work, again no point to hanging the job out. 
Present job, full Daily rate its tidy too, stops ■■■■■■■■ between drivers over who has the best job, allways kept on the move, so not good if you’re a bit cafe happy. maxing out driving usually before spreadover. decent holiday pay, liking this method.
I like being paid weekly, but would do monthly paid for the right money.
Thanks eddie snax, there’s more for me to absorb & think about there , cheers
bonnie lass:
gickniff:
bonnie lass:
Hi all , I’ve been trying to think about which method of payment for work is going to be the most beneficial way and what are the ‘pit falls’ to avoid If any of you had a choice of getting paid by either
-
the hour
-
self employed
-
per trip
-
or another way
What would you choose & why please?
I have always been paid on a percentage/ bonus basis and have found it always worked for me as I don’t have to unnecessarily stretch the day out to make a decent wage , there are ups and downs to any payment method the most important factor is a half decent firm/boss.
Thanks gickniff, that’s an interesting way of getting paid, how does that work? , what sort of a percentage & based on what ■■ I don’t know the mechanics of how that one works 
Cheers
Well many firm pay a basic let’s say £350-400 p\w then they receive a percentage of the vehicles earnings say between 19%-27% depending on the type of operation you run , if your loaded most of the day you tend to be in the 19-24% bracket, if you work out of a quarry let’s say and your running half the day empty you tend to receive 24-27% , not a lot of people like this method but if you’ve a fair employer it can work well plus your not relying on 15 hr’s work to make a days pay.
Bonnie Lass, you have a PM 
Truckulent:
Bonnie Lass, you have a PM
Thanks , I typed a reply & the system logged me out disolving the reply pm
I ll try again
Jack-knife:
U get a % of what the truck earns!
U be luckey to get 20%
How you work that out I don’t know?
Unless you a quoting for the work yourself!!
Thanks jackknife, it seems to be quite an unstable source of income though, & could be very variable & tricky to live on , cheers
Winseer:
I’ve always believed that the more complicated the pay sounds, the less it’s likely to end up working out.
Grafters will find themselves exected to put in more work in the same timeframe, whilst hourly paid will struggle to hang some jobs out.
It’s horses for courses. If you’re paid by a small private firm, then hourly paid is probably best.
Paid by the day is probably best for domestic runs, and paid by the hour best for any job with no planners to screw it all up.
Personally, I like hourly pay, and don’t like it when I’m planned to finish dead on 9 hours - ie right at the
end of “happy hour” - that hour you work for nothing because an hour is docked for meal break.
Yes, I’m as guilty as anyone else of speeding up a bit when nearly finished ahead of 8 hours, and slowing down when I’m going to run beyond 9.
Thanks winseer, it’s finding a good payer for some of the runs, some small companies are still trying to cut short the wages with all the excuses under the sun 
which doesn’t help ! On the other side of the coin , it would be good to take home a steady consistent wage Cheers
rambo19:
Hourly pay with a proper overtime rate.
IMO, sallaried works infavour for the company 99% of the time.
One of the bus companys in east london went on to salary, the company ‘bribed’ the drivers with a one off payment of £600, iirc.
The drivers now regret it.
Thanks rambo, that’s the trouble with a ‘one of wage’, depending on the ’ offer’ on the table at the time ,& the circumstances surrounding it , cheers
Rob K:
Needs to be either hourly or £300 per shift. Good basic rate >8 hours then time 1.5 after = happy driver, happy to do the job in a timely manner without dragging it out = happy customer and happy client. 
I’ve worked at the same depot for two different agencies. One agency paid a flat right right through, and the other paid 1.5 overtime after 8 hours.
Every time I go there with “flat through” rate, I always get 12-15 hour shifts.
The other agency has yet to score more than 9 hours, which with 1 hour off for break leaves the flat 8 you get guaranteed. NO overtime EVER in other words.
Overall therefore, I’d have to argue that if you get paid a flat through rate, you’ll get full access to all the jobs going, rather than just the domestic boring ones. that can be manipulated into finishing towards the end of “Happy Hour” - That hour 8-9 into the shift where you are effectively working for free…
Me, I like a decent long run out. My preferred format for a shift is a local run, back from that, break, then a long run, finish about the 12-15 hour mark, so “right through” encourages that as well.
Needless to say, I do over 95% of my hours at the agency paying flat through rate these days. They gain, I gain.
I’m on day rate, I’m happy with the rate as most of the time I’m parked reading a book, watching DVD etc…