michel:
A TBO with Relaxe cab from 1967. The company ran some TBO with re-engined with GM-Detroit engines.
Nice photo Michel - It certainly has some “presence”
Steve ,did theses GBH were in UK ?
michel:
Steve ,did theses GBH were in UK ?
Evening Gentlemen, yes michel, the photographs that Steve has posted could be the same lorry! First with UK “Trade licence” plates, (w69s michel), then as operated. I think that George Stewart, (Stewarts of Larbet), Scotland,traded very much on, as, as the “Auld Alliance” (bet you could not do that in todays political correct days)!found a “home” for this GB in Scotland. First imported for Tip Con, (a tipper show, based in Harrogate Yorkshireand organised by the "Tipper section of the UK Road Haulage Association), in 1978,But sadly George`s company failed, and the new Renault Trucks GB, could not cope with the potential of the GBHs, as a new market to exploit , (total idiots)!!! (They could only see the "highway 32/38tonne market)!
I have a memory that this vehicle ran on on an open coal mine in Scotland, but what happened to her I do not know! (knowing how reliable they were, she is probably running today)!!! The second image shows a different body, so was this No 2 GBH, or another vehicle?? In my opinion, (as an old man), Renault in the UK never realised the true potential of its range!!!(But again their marketing Director was ex Leyland…enough said!!!
Ah well , to the Bollinger, (it is enough to send you there)!!! Hey, I have a complete GBH toolkit in one of my Barn`s…wonder how I got that?
Cheerio for now.
Thanks for the explainations,Saviem.
The GBH was a successful tipper lorry ,here one in Portugal.
Thank you Michel and Saviem
Here are some more including the caption on the rear of one of them -
Steve 
Not a GBH, but a GLM 12 6x4 without hub reduction.
michel:
Not a GBH, but a GLM 12 6x4 without hub reduction.
Was that the difference- the GBH had a stronger chassis and axles- than the GLM, to provide a higher GVW? The posts above say that the GBH was a 40-tonner,which is a lot for 3 axles.
Another peculiarity- those TR350s boast 352cv. Some other TR350s have 356cv written on them. Why was this?
Hmmm -
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anorak:michel:
Not a GBH, but a GLM 12 6x4 without hub reduction.Was that the difference- the GBH had a stronger chassis and axles- than the GLM, to provide a higher GVW? The posts above say that the GBH was a 40-tonner,which is a lot for 3 axles.
Another peculiarity- those TR350s boast 352cv. Some other TR350s have 356cv written on them. Why was this?
Like this 
Steve
neversweat1:
Like this
Steve
Yes! Did they change the engine at some stage?
Evening all, Steve, nice pictures, and some of them are very familiar!!! The big guy driving in shots 1 & 2, is Andre Janssen, from St Priest, and the young lady, “Carole”, from the Agency we used. She hated that “skull cap”, but the Director insisted that it be worn…they were all the rage in Paris!!! Those shots were not posed…they were deemed to be the best of a bad lot, and the first is just down from St Priest on the junction of the D148 at Saint Symphorien going towards Mions. The second on the crest just west of Lyon Satolas on the unclassified road off the D147! The whole area was full of great photo opportunities, without having to go far from a good Resteraunt. One of my favourites was to conclude a test down the D4 heading towards Perouges, the sight of that Medieval Town used to get foreign journalists really excited, but not half as much as dining there!!I f English Heritage really wished to open their eyes and see how a town full of historic buildings can “live” viably in the 21st Century, then they should go to France, and see such gems as Perouges!!
Note that it is only a tandem axle fridge, again M Lamberets, avec Thermo King. The first shots in the “new” livery of black, red and chrome, and did they look good, indeed they did!!! Now that particular lorry was the 60/120tonne version, so empty, with a little tandem axle frigo on the back, accelerated like a sports car…to not a high maximum speed! Those polished rims cost a fortune, and one was always concious of “kerbing” them.
352CV/356CV…well, it was still the 14.88litre block, with direct injection, turbo, 08 35 30 (90 degree V, 135 x 130mm) but a little “jiggle” gave 356hp @ 2000 rpm, and 149mkg @1400rpm. But, on the road the driving difference was easily felt, the mid range torque output was much improved, and eventually when the aftercooler and porting were improved again to give (a conservative) 360hp, then 370 plus, the driving experience made the “big” Scania seem puny by comparison! The hi torque rise principal was truly ahead of most others, even the massive Fiat V8 struggled in the hills against Venissieux`s finest.
But the research fellows at Saint Priest had already analysed the ratio of fuel useage/performance given/weight carried/total life cost/ enviromental impact, and were well advanced in developing the 06 series engines, eventually to overtake the charasmatic “big Vs”. Do you know, I do not think that there has ever been a more satisfying lorry to drive than those big Berliets, somehow they really made driving them a pleasure. Even my friend Pat (Kennet), dropped his serious “testers face”, and remarked just how much he was enjoying himself, but those big Berliets had a way of enfolding you with their charm and personality…a bit like French women I suppose,… or champagne!
Anorak, the GBH, and GLM were as similar as chalk and cheese, but yes , the GBH could handle 40tonnes gvw easily, most worked at well over that! Had the UK operations Market planners realised what they had, then Magirus sales of the 6x4 would have been much reduced ,to say the least . One day, if I can find time I will try to lay out simply the Berliet “core” ranges, it is very strong, but they really “lost it” in the late 60s trying to prove that they could provide “every” option possible from stock!!And trying to follow some of the factory range data leads up so many blind alleys.
Tough, that was Berliets brand, but sometimes the final assembly quality was a little below par, and in common with so many they lost direction in multiple catergories of models. The Swedes did not, and they were proven correct!
Great pictures Steve, and I know that in your collection you must have one of me…after all, you show the elbow and arm I wash each day in your post!!! Boy did I want my tea, and to go home for a shower!
Im away to my Bollinger, and tea if Im lucky, Cheerio for now.
Is this the elbow in question Monsieur Saviem 
Steve
The GLM had a frame section of 360x110x10, the GBH had 356x110x8 so for extra work on site the GLM was most sturdy but its weight was heavier.
I have a photo somewhere of a gigantic Berliet, it was a square bonneted thing and towered over the lorries around it. It was bigger than a Nicholas Tractormas, probably an oilfield design.
I took the photo in the late 80s on the A4 Autostrada somewhere around Brescia and it was in an IVECO dealership. I’ll scan it on to here when I get home.
neversweat1:
Is this the elbow in question Monsieur Saviem0
Steve
More than likely yes,He’s probably eyeing up that ‘Monique’ model that they used in the photo shoot
newmercman:
I have a photo somewhere of a gigantic Berliet, it was a square bonneted thing and towered over the lorries around it. It was bigger than a Nicholas Tractormas, probably an oilfield design.I took the photo in the late 80s on the A4 Autostrada somewhere around Brescia and it was in an IVECO dealership. I’ll scan it on to here when I get home.
One of these, by any chance?
Yes that was the one, I think it had a later style plastic grille though.
It has a V16 Detroit in it, so guess who will pop up again now, just like a hollow turd
Last night I had a very good meal in convivial company at a resto not far west of Montauban en Bretagne on the RN 164. OK, something for a different thread but, on the wall behind the bar was a framed photo of a Willeme, taken in 1963 according to the patronne, but the thing that struck me was what it reminded me of. A Guy Invincible. Was there any connection perhaps? The good lady did not have a copy and taking a photo would have been allowed but useless I think as in the dark of the bar the flash would have reflected off the glass.
Another icon on the wall was personal to me. It was of an F89 taken against a back drop of snowy mountains with a young woman posing in front of it. I have an almost identical photo taken at Aosta in the 70s with my later wife enhancing the machinery. Sorry, something else for another thread I think. 