White Trux grew out of the acquisition by Michael White of Parkes International Trailers who operated from Wigham.
They became a large player on the Middle East and at one time had their own fleet of trucks in Saudi.
I think they deserve their own thread so I will start one.
Jazzandy:
White Trux grew out of the acquisition by Michael White of Parkes International Trailers who operated from Wigham.They became a large player on the Middle East and at one time had their own fleet of trucks in Saudi.
I think they deserve their own thread so I will start one.
Hi, Did you work for Micky White ? and did you know Mick Bryan - regards Fred
Jazzandy:
White Trux grew out of the acquisition by Michael White of Parkes International Trailers who operated from Wigham.They became a large player on the Middle East and at one time had their own fleet of trucks in Saudi.
I think they deserve their own thread so I will start one.
Dont know if you want to use this one Andy its one already started--------- viewtopic.php?f=35&t=29228
Sorry, I jumped the gun amd already started another thread!
No worries Andy the new thread will take off now its upā¦
geoffthecrowtaylor:
Sorry Steve dont remember that outfit looks like a Scammel crusader which normally only fitted Rolls Royce diesels. That brings me to a very strange one for you. The Scania I had Reg OOG 983 G was fitted with a Rolls Eagle 280 and a 9 speed Fuller gearbox driving a Scania double reduction diff. This had been done by Rolls for Samuel wIlliams who had become disenchanted with Scania engines. They also had OOG 980G fitted with a ā ā ā ā ā ā ā same driveline This is not a tale it s 100 percent true. I drove that motor for 3 years on the continent,the biggest problem it ever gave was shearing the injection pump drive in Yugo, for some reason Rolls didn t use shims seemingly acommon fault,there was no provision for fitting them. I had it welded in Yugo for 300 Dinars and it was still running when we sold it to a firm somewhere over Glossop way.Hope this has entertained you regards Crow.
Hi there Iāve found this little thread very interesting reading-I remember back in the late 1980ās I read an article about a Scania 142 being fitted with an Eaton Twin Splitter gearbox. I donāt realy know any more than this but it was either in āTruck and Driverā or āTruckā magazine.Iām not sure it was particularly a middle east motor and I wonder did anyone remember the article or the lorry itself, I donāt know what ever become of it either, Terry.
I think the 142 with twin splitter was one of Birds motors. Ralph Davies was also whining about not being able to put a 13spd Fuller in his 142s at the same time 
newmercman:
Ralph Davies was also whining about not being able to put a 13spd Fuller in his 142s at the same time
Now back in 1987/88 that wouldāve been a worthwile conversion!!!
Ross.
newmercman:
I think the 142 with twin splitter was one of Birds motors. Ralph Davies was also whining about not being able to put a 13spd Fuller in his 142s at the same time
Evening all, nmm, Grahams son Andy Levett was into Truck racing heavily at the time, and I seem to remember Eaton put that box, and a Lipe clutch in for them. Must have put a real shine on the performance!
Amazing how big that fleet is today, I remember the original red 110s &111s, outside the terraced houses by BIPs chemical works at Oldbury, boy Im getting old! Cheerio for now.
newmercman:
I think the 142 with twin splitter was one of Birds motors. Ralph Davies was also whining about not being able to put a 13spd Fuller in his 142s at the same time
In 1985 after reading about the conversion of some the Birds fleet to Fuller/Eaton transmissions I phoned then paid a visit to Fullers,in Basingstoke IIRC.
The 10 speed Scania shift was giving me severe agony in the left shoulder.
They assured me that the fitting of a RT00 13 speed was a walk in the park into my 142.
10 th gear would have 1:1 direct with the top three being all overdrive gearsā¦10mpg from a 142 here we come!
However,the wall of fury that came from Scantrux stopped the conversion.
Their answer being that if even a wheel bearing failed my warranty was invalid because of the fitting of a non standard gearbox.
Just after that there was a feature in one of the truck magazines about the Scania push for the Australian long haul market.
To meet the Aussie demand for a truck to move 120 tons and reach speeds of 60 mph low and behold the had to fitā¦yes you have guessed right.
The magazine feature rattled quite nicely across a certain salesmans desk in Scantrux.
14 TOO:
newmercman:
I think the 142 with twin splitter was one of Birds motors. Ralph Davies was also whining about not being able to put a 13spd Fuller in his 142s at the same timeIn 1985 after reading about the conversion of some the Birds fleet to Fuller/Eaton transmissions I phoned then paid a visit to Fullers,in Basingstoke IIRC.
The 10 speed Scania shift was giving me severe agony in the left shoulder.
They assured me that the fitting of a RT00 13 speed was a walk in the park into my 142.
10 th gear would have 1:1 direct with the top three being all overdrive gearsā¦10mpg from a 142 here we come!
However,the wall of fury that came from Scantrux stopped the conversion.
Their answer being that if even a wheel bearing failed my warranty was invalid because of the fitting of a non standard gearbox.
Just after that there was a feature in one of the truck magazines about the Scania push for the Australian long haul market.
To meet the Aussie demand for a truck to move 120 tons and reach speeds of 60 mph low and behold the had to fitā¦yes you have guessed right.
The magazine feature rattled quite nicely across a certain salesmans desk in Scantrux.
Evening all, 1400TOO, your story rings a bell with me too. In the early 90s, as part of a āroll up dealā, with some friends in the US, I acquired some T cab Scanias, (at a very sensible price)! As they were bobbing over the Atlantic I set about organizing their homologation into European spesificationā¦ No hope, Scania themselves were less than helpfull, in fact obstructive sums up their attitude! Their Dealers, (many of whom had enjoyed counting copious quantities of my cash over the years), simply placed their heads into their fundamental orifices, and tried to pretend that they simply could not help!! I was never a Scania man, but the smug attitude of the āfactoryā men, well it really got my goat!!
Were we stuffed??, of course not, they all went to a contact in Turkey, and at a very good margin, (and so did the next however many)!!! But think on, how much aftersales business did the Scania network, and potential profit, did Scania as a marque loose, because they would not sanction a non franchised Dealer importing vehicles into Europe, that they had spectacularly failed with in the USA??
Good lorry, not such good people!! Cheerio for now.
14 TOO, are you sure that was triple overdrive? Usually the direct gear is 11th, with 12th being 0.85:1 and 13th being 0.74:1
A triple overdrive would have a riduculously long final gear, unless you had a really low rear axle ratio it would be undriveable at sensible speedsā¦mind you, it would be a lot of fun when you wound it up 
I have a 143,and i also have a 13 speed fuller to put into it,i just havent entirely worked out how to join all the peices together yet.i dont rate the gr871 much since it self destructed in hof hofā¦I am led to beleive that they are well overdrived to the point that you wont be able to run them in top gear, normall run in twelfth or so, will let you a;llknow how it turns out when im done, it has been done by a few people.
newmercman:
14 TOO, are you sure that was triple overdrive? Usually the direct gear is 11th, with 12th being 0.85:1 and 13th being 0.74:1A triple overdrive would have a riduculously long final gear, unless you had a really low rear axle ratio it would be undriveable at sensible speedsā¦mind you, it would be a lot of fun when you wound it up
Newmerc man.
The RT00 was my choice.
I just wanted the option to run at the most economical speed I could,as I was paying for the diesel.
In most cases the top gear would have been unobtainable but it would have been nice to blow the doors off those pesky 1644ās that were filling up my rear view mirrors.
Saviem:
14 TOO:
newmercman:
I think the 142 with twin splitter was one of Birds motors. Ralph Davies was also whining about not being able to put a 13spd Fuller in his 142s at the same timeIn 1985 after reading about the conversion of some the Birds fleet to Fuller/Eaton transmissions I phoned then paid a visit to Fullers,in Basingstoke IIRC.
The 10 speed Scania shift was giving me severe agony in the left shoulder.
They assured me that the fitting of a RT00 13 speed was a walk in the park into my 142.
10 th gear would have 1:1 direct with the top three being all overdrive gearsā¦10mpg from a 142 here we come!
However,the wall of fury that came from Scantrux stopped the conversion.
Their answer being that if even a wheel bearing failed my warranty was invalid because of the fitting of a non standard gearbox.
Just after that there was a feature in one of the truck magazines about the Scania push for the Australian long haul market.
To meet the Aussie demand for a truck to move 120 tons and reach speeds of 60 mph low and behold the had to fitā¦yes you have guessed right.
The magazine feature rattled quite nicely across a certain salesmans desk in Scantrux.Evening all, 1400TOO, your story rings a bell with me too. In the early 90s, as part of a āroll up dealā, with some friends in the US, I acquired some T cab Scanias, (at a very sensible price)! As they were bobbing over the Atlantic I set about organizing their homologation into European spesificationā¦ No hope, Scania themselves were less than helpfull, in fact obstructive sums up their attitude! Their Dealers, (many of whom had enjoyed counting copious quantities of my cash over the years), simply placed their heads into their fundamental orifices, and tried to pretend that they simply could not help!! I was never a Scania man, but the smug attitude of the āfactoryā men, well it really got my goat!!
Were we stuffed??, of course not, they all went to a contact in Turkey, and at a very good margin, (and so did the next however many)!!! But think on, how much aftersales business did the Scania network, and potential profit, did Scania as a marque loose, because they would not sanction a non franchised Dealer importing vehicles into Europe, that they had spectacularly failed with in the USA??
Good lorry, not such good people!! Cheerio for now.
Saviem
Arogance beyond belief.
I ended up running three Scanias and could not fault the vehicles in any way ,shape or form but sometimes their holier than thou dealers left me speechless.
When I first ordered my 142 I was on cloud nine that I would soon be driving one of the best.
The first time that I actually saw the vehicle was in the paint shop and I was a little disapointed that the Alcoa wheels were not polished.
In a call to the salesman I mentioned as a joke that if I had bought a Volvo,they came with polished wheels.
āF**k off and buy one thenā came the reply as he slammed down the phone.
richmond:
I have a 143,and i also have a 13 speed fuller to put into it,i just havent entirely worked out how to join all the peices together yet.i dont rate the gr871 much since it self destructed in hof hofā¦I am led to beleive that they are well overdrived to the point that you wont be able to run them in top gear, normall run in twelfth or so, will let you a;llknow how it turns out when im done, it has been done by a few people.
There were many 141 and 142 Scanias done with 13 sp Fullers in Finland. In the 80s you could get 142 Scanias with 15 sp Fuller from the factory. It was an Australian export but I heard it was also very popular in north-Sweden logger trucks. Gear linkage in 3 series is different than 2 series so there is no parts from the factory for Fuller conversion.
Lenny, that 15spd Fuller, Iām sure theyāre a 5spd with range change as is normal, but the splitter only worked on the bottom 5 rather than the top 5. Iām sure that was a box designed for heavy haul, so the extra low gears would make sense. Is that what they used up in SF?
newmercman:
Lenny, that 15spd Fuller, Iām sure theyāre a 5spd with range change as is normal, but the splitter only worked on the bottom 5 rather than the top 5. Iām sure that was a box designed for heavy haul, so the extra low gears would make sense. Is that what they used up in SF?
Chinky Nevs X reg was something like thisā¦
fly sheet:
newmercman:
Lenny, that 15spd Fuller, Iām sure theyāre a 5spd with range change as is normal, but the splitter only worked on the bottom 5 rather than the top 5. Iām sure that was a box designed for heavy haul, so the extra low gears would make sense. Is that what they used up in SF?Chinky Nevs X reg was something like thisā¦
It seems a bit arse about face, never actually stirred one myself, so confirmation that such a thing exists is most welcome driver
I canāt quite remember what āThe ā ā ā ā ā ā did to it, it had two more gears than mine & 13 + 2 makes 15ā¦He did tell Me but its gone 