Come on CF, get the spade out, you know you want to dig a bigger hole for yourself. 20,000 posts of rubbish, one more can’t hurt now.
Cf going quiet? Kicked out of the dayroom already?
Most boring thread ever
SO… Let’s hear some experiences of how people were cleared in bridge bashing incidents - because they were “legally cleared to proceed”.
My truck is 13’8" and this bridge was marked 13’9" when it was in fact 13’6" and I hit it.
I’m also awaiting the first scenario of “Driver defends himself against immigrant attack, and kills one or more in self-defence”.
We need to see examples of drivers being cleared when the public has come to no harm, and the entire fault lies with government policy/local government error etc as well.
I have no idea as it stands what happens to all these drivers that hit bridges. One might assume they all get busted, all get fined, all get licence endorsements - but DO they? 
SuperMultiBlue:
Most boring thread ever
I wouldn’t say that we’ve managed to get Napoleon Hitler and Allegros into it.
Not easy on a thread about bridge bashing. 
Carryfast:
wheelnutt:
Carryfast:
Because it is possible that he’ll find a bridge with no metric conversion when driving here because we measure bridges first and foremost in imperial not metric.Or as in this case a bridge with a dodgy metric sign conversion.IE the point is drivers should be expected to know the height of their vehicles in feet and inches regardless of whether they are foreign or not.We are not talking about a bridge with no metric sign, this one has a metric sign, it says 4.1m.
Yes but it ‘also’ says 13 feet.Bearing in mind the above he obviously knows/should know the height of the vehicle in feet and inches.
So if you were to be confronted with a height sign dual marked 16 spans 9 barleycorns and also 12ft 3 inches you’d trust the units you understood wouldn’t you? which is exactly what a foreign driver would do when reading a sign dual marked in imperial and metric.
Have the nurses come to get him or have the med’s began to work, he’s gone very quiet 
SuperMultiBlue:
Most boring thread ever
Yep. one little bridge; been there since about 185? something… & it causes so much aggro on here. Bet most of 'em never been under it 
caledoniandream:
So you prefer a system with all different values no logic in it and based on something random■■?
Really, …I mean Really
Yes different values for different applications.While all you’ve got is fractions and multiples of the Metre,Litre,and Gramme.Which as I said in this case would mean effectively the same thing as measuring bridge heights in yards and fractions of yards 
and large distances in 1,000’s of yards because the yard is all we’d have as a reference. As for gallons and pints yes it’s easier to buy milk in pints and buy,move or store fuel in gallons.While if it really has to be a litre of anything then a quart is near enough.
While if I’m machining something to a tolerance of thousandths or ten thousandths of an inch I really don’t need to give a zb how many inches there are in a foot let alone a yard at that point.
cav551:
Carryfast:
Yes but it ‘also’ says 13 feet.Bearing in mind the above he obviously knows/should know the height of the vehicle in feet and inches.So if you were to be confronted with a height sign dual marked 16 spans 9 barleycorns and also 12ft 3 inches you’d trust the units you understood wouldn’t you? which is exactly what a foreign driver would do when reading a sign dual marked in imperial and metric.
If any driver is driving a truck here he needs to know the height of the vehicle in feet and inches before leaving the yard.Not spans or barley corns.In just the same way that if anyone is driving a truck in Europe they need to know its height in metres.It’s not rocket science.
As for the merits of the two systems that’s a different argument.In which case as I’ve said metric is a flawed lash up that relies on one reference point for every application.In this case effectively the same thing as us measuring bridge heights in yards and fractions of a yard because the yard is all we have.
Carryfast:
If any driver is driving a truck here he needs to know the height of the vehicle in feet and inches before leaving the yard…
You are wrong again, he doesn’t need to know that, the sign had metres and centimetres on it, no need at all to know his height in feet and inches, or barleycorn for that matter.
The council put the wrong sign up, that is where the attention should be on, not the driver. He didn’t do a thing wrong.
4.1m bridge, 4.0 metre truck.
Carryfast:
cav551:
Carryfast:
As for the merits of the two systems that’s a different argument.In which case as I’ve said metric is a flawed lash up that relies on one reference point for every application.In this case effectively the same thing as us measuring bridge heights in yards and fractions of a yard because the yard is all we have.
It’s a very popular lash up, I think we should go complexity metric after we leave the EU, so we can find it easier to trade with those Commonwealth countries who want to work on trade deals. 
This springs to mind.
muckles:
Carryfast:
cav551:
Carryfast:
As for the merits of the two systems that’s a different argument.In which case as I’ve said metric is a flawed lash up that relies on one reference point for every application.In this case effectively the same thing as us measuring bridge heights in yards and fractions of a yard because the yard is all we have.It’s a very popular lash up, I think we should go complexity metric after we leave the EU, so we can find it easier to trade with those Commonwealth countries who want to work on trade deals.
Leave the EU? The referendum was advisory, it is entirely up to parliament to decide if we stay or if we go, nothing has been decided yet, they haven’t even discussed it. Now with Scotland and Wales joining the Supreme court case against the Government, they will have no chance invoking royal prerogative. 
Let’s not digress, that is ancient history.
Back to why the sign was wrong and the undisputed fact that the driver was in the right and only the council was to blame here.
Quote :-‘’ The council put the wrong sign up’'. I’ll have a word tomorrow. Probably close the road off for a load of wombles on tea break before they get their tape measures out 
simon1958:
Quote :-‘’ The council put the wrong sign up’'. I’ll have a word tomorrow. Probably close the road off for a load of wombles on tea break before they get their tape measures out
Somebody needs to look into this error before another unsuspecting driver bashes into this bridge.
Some heads need to roll too at the council. Typical layabouts will probably get away with it.
wheelnutt:
muckles:
Carryfast:
As for the merits of the two systems that’s a different argument.In which case as I’ve said metric is a flawed lash up that relies on one reference point for every application.In this case effectively the same thing as us measuring bridge heights in yards and fractions of a yard because the yard is all we have.It’s a very popular lash up, I think we should go complexity metric after we leave the EU, so we can find it easier to trade with those Commonwealth countries who want to work on trade deals.
Leave the EU? The referendum was advisory, it is entirely up to parliament to decide if we stay or if we go, nothing has been decided yet, they haven’t even discussed it. Now with Scotland and Wales joining the Supreme court case against the Government, they will have no chance invoking royal prerogative.
Let’s not digress, that is ancient history.
Back to why the sign was wrong and the undisputed fact that the driver was in the right and only the council was to blame here.
Not the fish I expected and it appears to have slipped off the hook .
muckles:
wheelnutt:
muckles:
Carryfast:
As for the merits of the two systems that’s a different argument.In which case as I’ve said metric is a flawed lash up that relies on one reference point for every application.In this case effectively the same thing as us measuring bridge heights in yards and fractions of a yard because the yard is all we have.It’s a very popular lash up, I think we should go complexity metric after we leave the EU, so we can find it easier to trade with those Commonwealth countries who want to work on trade deals.
Leave the EU? The referendum was advisory, it is entirely up to parliament to decide if we stay or if we go, nothing has been decided yet, they haven’t even discussed it. Now with Scotland and Wales joining the Supreme court case against the Government, they will have no chance invoking royal prerogative.
Let’s not digress, that is ancient history.
Back to why the sign was wrong and the undisputed fact that the driver was in the right and only the council was to blame here.
Not the fish I expected and it appears to have slipped off the hook .
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wheelnutt:
The council put the wrong sign up, that is where the attention should be on.
Yes we know.That’s an occupational hazard in being what happens when someone tries to measure a bridge in the foreign version of yards and fractions of yards because the foreign version of ‘yards’ is all they have.Rather than feet and inches. 
Carryfast:
wheelnutt:
The council put the wrong sign up, that is where the attention should be on.Yes we know.That’s an occupational hazard in being what happens when someone tries to measure a bridge in the foreign version of yards and fractions of yards because the foreign version of ‘yards’ is all they have.Rather than feet and inches.
No more trolling? You finally agree that the truck driver was not to blame and as always the useless muppets at the council couldn’t even do this simple job.
Thread closed, all of us came to that conclusion on post 3 or 4, you needed 5 pages and digressing all the way over Europe.
That’s why this is the professional forum, we professionals know what we are talking about, it is guys like you who only drove a truck for 3 months 25 years ago armed with a bit of knowledge from google that need all these 5 pages.
OK dude, you can take your meds now and call the nurses, bedtime.