Carryfast:
muckles:
Carryfast:
Let’s get this right he knows what it’s height is in feet and inches but decides to go by the higher one of the two signs because the council has made an obvious mistake. 
No because he’s foreign and doesn’t take into account the incompetence of those who work for or have worked for councils in England. 
What difference does being foreign make if he’s supposedly bright enough to know the height of the vehicle in feet and inches when he set off and he’s bright enough to know that it’s the 13 feet sign which matters in this case not the 4.1 m one.
But not bright enough to know how incompetent our council workers can be.
muckles:
Carryfast:
muckles:
Carryfast:
Let’s get this right he knows what it’s height is in feet and inches but decides to go by the higher one of the two signs because the council has made an obvious mistake.
No because he’s foreign and doesn’t take into account the incompetence of those who work for or have worked for councils in England.
What difference does being foreign make if he’s supposedly bright enough to know the height of the vehicle in feet and inches when he set off and he’s bright enough to know that it’s the 13 feet sign which matters in this case not the 4.1 m one.
But not bright enough to know how incompetent our council workers can be.
He doesn’t really need to, traffic signs are enshrined in law, who is he to question the validity of them.
The sign says 4.1m, his truck is 4.0, simples.
wheelnutt:
Carryfast:
What difference does being foreign make if he’s supposedly bright enough to know the height of the vehicle in feet and inches when he set off and he’s bright enough to know that it’s the 13 feet sign which matters in this case not the 4.1 m one.
Who cares, the sign says 4.1m, it is not up to the driver to question that.
It is up to the driver to question it when he should know the height of his vehicle in feet and inches when driving here and the sign says 13 feet.
Carryfast:
wheelnutt:
Carryfast:
What difference does being foreign make if he’s supposedly bright enough to know the height of the vehicle in feet and inches when he set off and he’s bright enough to know that it’s the 13 feet sign which matters in this case not the 4.1 m one.
Who cares, the sign says 4.1m, it is not up to the driver to question that.
It is up to the driver to question it when he should know the height of his vehicle in feet and inches when driving here and the sign says 13 feet.
IT is not up to a driver to question traffic signs. They are mandated by law. The law states the bridge is 4.1m, it is not up to the driver to check that sign or to go out and measure the bloody thing.
4.0m truck, sign says 4.1m.
wheelnutt:
muckles:
Carryfast:
muckles:
No because he’s foreign and doesn’t take into account the incompetence of those who work for or have worked for councils in England.
What difference does being foreign make if he’s supposedly bright enough to know the height of the vehicle in feet and inches when he set off and he’s bright enough to know that it’s the 13 feet sign which matters in this case not the 4.1 m one.
But not bright enough to know how incompetent our council workers can be.
He doesn’t really need to, traffic signs are enshrined in law, who is he to question the validity of them.
The sign says 4.1m, his truck is 4.0, simples.
Agreed, it’s only ex-council workers trying to blame the driver.
I quite admire the way they stick together even long after retirement.
muckles:
Agreed, it’s only ex-council workers trying to blame the driver.
I quite admire the way they stick together even long after retirement.
All incompetent fools, the lot of them. Couldn’t get a real job. CF is living proof, drove a truck for 3 months 25 years ago, couldn’t really hack it and now think he is an expert.
muckles:
Carryfast:
What difference does being foreign make if he’s supposedly bright enough to know the height of the vehicle in feet and inches when he set off and he’s bright enough to know that it’s the 13 feet sign which matters in this case not the 4.1 m one.
But not bright enough to know how incompetent our council workers can be.
Driving under a marked 13 foot bridge with a truck that he knows ( should know ) isn’t under that figure is more incompetent than getting a 13 foot metric conversion on a bridge sign wrong.
Carryfast:
muckles:
Carryfast:
What difference does being foreign make if he’s supposedly bright enough to know the height of the vehicle in feet and inches when he set off and he’s bright enough to know that it’s the 13 feet sign which matters in this case not the 4.1 m one.
But not bright enough to know how incompetent our council workers can be.
Driving under a marked 13 foot bridge with a truck that he knows ( should know ) isn’t under that figure is more incompetent than getting a 13 foot metric conversion on a bridge sign wrong.
He didn’t, he drove under a 4.1m bridge with a 4.0m truck. Signposted as required by law. Simples.
The driver didn’t do a thing wrong, all blame lies squarely at the muppets from the council.
Typical council screw up.
Carryfast:
muckles:
Carryfast:
What difference does being foreign make if he’s supposedly bright enough to know the height of the vehicle in feet and inches when he set off and he’s bright enough to know that it’s the 13 feet sign which matters in this case not the 4.1 m one.
But not bright enough to know how incompetent our council workers can be.
Driving under a marked 13 foot bridge with a truck that he knows ( should know ) isn’t under that figure is more incompetent than getting a 13 foot metric conversion on a bridge sign wrong.
So you admit it’s wrong then?
Carryfast:
wheelnutt:
4.0m truck, sign says 4.1m.
The sign says 13 feet.
I couldn’t care less, the sign says 4.1m on a sign meeting the legal requirements of the law. The driver drove a 4.0m truck.
Signs aren’t a pop quiz for drivers to check both measurements and use the lowest one at each and every bridge. Signs are posted in 2 units of measurements for a reason, it is not up to the driver to check the validity of each of them or convert both of them in the opposing units of measurements and then use the lowest one. If that was the case, drivers wouldn’t get anywhere during a day if they have to stop at every bridge to convert metres to feet and feet to metres to see which of the numbers is lower and than use that only to rinse and repeat at the next bridge.
Council screw up all the way.
muckles:
Agreed, it’s only ex-council workers trying to blame the driver.
I quite admire the way they stick together even long after retirement.
Council HGV 2 ‘driver’ in this case at least that’s what it said on my job description. IE more a case of a ‘driver’ expecting another driver to show the required level of skill to do the job without taking out bridges.In this case knowing the height of the truck in feet and inches.
wheelnutt:
Carryfast:
wheelnutt:
4.0m truck, sign says 4.1m.
The sign says 13 feet.
I couldn’t care less, the sign says 4.1m on a sign meeting the legal requirements of the law. The driver drove a 4.0m truck.
Signs aren’t a pop quiz for drivers to check both measurements and use the lowest one at each and every bridge. Signs are posted in 2 units of measurements for a reason, it is not up to the driver to check the validity of each of them or convert both of them in the opposing units of measurements and then use the lowest one. If that was the case, drivers wouldn’t get anywhere during a day if they have to stop at every bridge to convert metres to feet and feet to metres to see which of the numbers is lower and than use that only to rinse and repeat at the next bridge.
Why does he need to supposedly ‘convert’ a measurement that he should know before leaving the yard.Truck is 13 feet + sign says 13 feet simples.
Carryfast:
muckles:
Agreed, it’s only ex-council workers trying to blame the driver.
I quite admire the way they stick together even long after retirement.
Council HGV 2 ‘driver’ in this case at least that’s what it said on my job description. IE more a case of a ‘driver’ expecting another driver to show the required level of skill to do the job without taking out bridges.In this case knowing the height of the truck in feet and inches.
But why did he need to know the height in Ft and Inches when it was written clearly in metric?
muckles:
Carryfast:
muckles:
Agreed, it’s only ex-council workers trying to blame the driver.
I quite admire the way they stick together even long after retirement.
Council HGV 2 ‘driver’ in this case at least that’s what it said on my job description. IE more a case of a ‘driver’ expecting another driver to show the required level of skill to do the job without taking out bridges.In this case knowing the height of the truck in feet and inches.
But why did he need to know the height in Ft and Inches when it was written clearly in metric?
Because it is possible that he’ll find a bridge with no metric conversion when driving here because we measure bridges first and foremost in imperial not metric.Or as in this case a bridge with a dodgy metric sign conversion.IE the point is drivers should be expected to know the height of their vehicles in feet and inches regardless of whether they are foreign or not.
Carryfast:
muckles:
Carryfast:
muckles:
Agreed, it’s only ex-council workers trying to blame the driver.
I quite admire the way they stick together even long after retirement.
Council HGV 2 ‘driver’ in this case at least that’s what it said on my job description. IE more a case of a ‘driver’ expecting another driver to show the required level of skill to do the job without taking out bridges.In this case knowing the height of the truck in feet and inches.
But why did he need to know the height in Ft and Inches when it was written clearly in metric?
Because it is possible that he’ll find a bridge with no metric conversion when driving here because we measure bridges first and foremost in imperial not metric.Or as in this case a bridge with a dodgy metric sign conversion.IE the point is drivers should be expected to know the height of their vehicles in feet and inches regardless of whether they are foreign or not.
We are not talking about a bridge with no metric sign, this one has a metric sign, it says 4.1m.
wheelnutt:
Carryfast:
Because it is possible that he’ll find a bridge with no metric conversion when driving here because we measure bridges first and foremost in imperial not metric.Or as in this case a bridge with a dodgy metric sign conversion.IE the point is drivers should be expected to know the height of their vehicles in feet and inches regardless of whether they are foreign or not.
We are not talking about a bridge with no metric sign, this one has a metric sign, it says 4.1m.
Yes but it ‘also’ says 13 feet.Bearing in mind the above he obviously knows/should know the height of the vehicle in feet and inches.
Carryfast:
wheelnutt:
Carryfast:
Because it is possible that he’ll find a bridge with no metric conversion when driving here because we measure bridges first and foremost in imperial not metric.Or as in this case a bridge with a dodgy metric sign conversion.IE the point is drivers should be expected to know the height of their vehicles in feet and inches regardless of whether they are foreign or not.
We are not talking about a bridge with no metric sign, this one has a metric sign, it says 4.1m.
Yes but it ‘also’ says 13 feet.Bearing in mind the above he obviously knows/should know the height of the vehicle in feet and inches.
Irrelevant what it “also” says, it is not up to the driver to check the conversions of units of measurements.
4.1m bridge 4.0m truck.
The law doesn’t say to ignore height limits signs if on conversion from metric to imperial it is found that the one is lower than the other and use the lower one of the two.(they usually are as you can’t get a rounded number converting one in to the other)
CF you are being a numpty again as always. I would love to use a lot stronger words, but the censor bot won’t let me.
4.1m sign, 4.0m truck. Totally legal to proceed.
Carryfast:
caledoniandream:
There are not many council trucks that are too high, most are well under 13 feet or 3 metre, 9 decimetre, 6 centimetre and 2 millimetres (for the more educated ones 
)
Not when the council truck in question is a multi lift flat with a Muir Hill sitting on the deck. 
While your figures don’t exactly make the case for the metric system as I said being a one trick pony of the metre/litre/gramme.
So you prefer a system with all different values no logic in it and based on something random■■?
Really, …I mean Really
Weight in “stones” with 16 ounces in a pound, and 14 pounds in a stone, and 160 stone in a imperial ton, but only 142.857 in a US ton.
A gallon is 4.546 litres unless you live in the USA than a gallon is 3.785 litres
8 pints in 1 imperial gallon, etc. Etc no logic whatsoever to it.
Why do difficult, if it can be easy■■?
Metric is easy, you can be as precise as you want, we are grinding tools up to 1 micron or if you like to 3.937 × 10-5 inch