There was no need to have a TIR plate on a unit as the regs only covered the load, the instance i was talking about was when i was driving a lorry & trailer. Which is a different kettle of fish.
tankerian:
A few randoms.
Great pics Tankerian, but who did the Scania 140 & the F88s in the orange/white belong to? Can’t make out the name on the door in the side shot of the Scania!
Regards Chris
tankerian:
A few randoms.
Cracking pics but unfortunately their not Brits .
Suedehead:
tankerian:
A few randoms.Cracking pics but unfortunately their not Brits .
Suedehead,
Wake up man, of course they’re Brits. First of all check the Reg Nos, 
there is also the first photo I’ve ever seen of one of Alan Alltugs Lorries on there. Some good pictures, thanks Tankerian.
Cheers, Archie.
I think the union jacks in a couple of pics reinforces the statement that their british although Allan Alltug himself was Turkish (Cypriot I believe).
LB76:
0Is this the Crusader that was mentioned on here ?And no-one could remember it.
Cracking photo mate.
Cheers
hang on boys, is the thread about ancient british lorries that were british built or old firms from britain ? i’m confused now (not hard to do!)
The thread is “supposed” to be about Ancient British trucks heading East, thats why there are loads of pics of British motors! 
Not sure how a Scania or Volvo can claim to be British (wish they were) so could we keep it British please lads. Jolly ho, thanks awfully 
BTW: The orange and white Scania and Volvo’s and the blue Transcon were owned by Eric Birdale, Maidstone.
Just to try and keep it British… 
Do any of you guys remember Don Mottram from near Chippenham? He had a couple of Transcontinentals, a Maggie and a Scania 110. Dark green livery and looked bloody smart. I was only a kid but have never forgotten how imposing they looked…
One of the last ones he bought was an AEC with a sleeper cab on a ‘G’ plate. It was a few years old when he bought it in the mid seventies and I’ve often wondered if it went to the ME. It wasn’t too long after that he finished up and all the lorries disappeared. I believe he had a bad accident and was laid up for a while…
Any photo’s or memories would be great…
I remember Don Mottram he was a friend of a mate of mine Malcolm Maynard, I met him a couple of times, nice guy but I think he ran into money problems doing M/E.
truckerash:
The thread is “supposed” to be about Ancient British trucks heading East, thats why there are loads of pics of British motors!
Not sure how a Scania or Volvo can claim to be British (wish they were) so could we keep it British please lads. Jolly ho, thanks awfullyBTW: The orange and white Scania and Volvo’s and the blue Transcon were owned by Eric Birdale, Maidstone.
Thanks for the I.D. Ash’, its 1 of those paint jobs that you know you’ve seen but can’t place where/when/who
Regards
Chris
Ancient Brits heading East aka
Ancient Brit. Registered Vehicles heading East
Ancient Brit. Built Vehicles heading East
Ancient Brit. Hauliers heading East.
That covers the lot methinks, which one is it meant to be this thread?
gazzer:
Ancient Brits heading East akaAncient Brit. Registered Vehicles heading East
Ancient Brit. Built Vehicles heading East
Ancient Brit. Hauliers heading East.That covers the lot methinks, which one is it meant to be this thread?
I think the idea was a thread relating to old British made machines that headed to the Middle East, rather than ancient British blokes or
long forgotten hauliers from Britain who had a stab at the Middle East with British registered trucks.
Could be wrong, as that seems to be my usual resting place…
The Crusader in Baileys livery is on Glasgow registered plates and I remember Heron Truck Rental which I think was part of Millburn Motors the Leyland group dealer in Glasgow renting some of the Crusaders to John McNeill of Glasgow and they were well specd.for the job of running to the middle east.I think that would be one of the rental fleet sold onto Baileys.I would think McNeill’s drivers would find a big diffrence going with a Crusader with all that gear to setting off in an 86 Volvo which plenty did to start with then they gradually got into 88’s/89’s. I am allways surprised that more photos,stories,etc.does’nt turn up about McNeill’s and the middle east as they had a fair number of motors on it.Eddie.
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gazzer:
Ancient Brits heading East akaAncient Brit. Registered Vehicles heading East
Ancient Brit. Built Vehicles heading East
Ancient Brit. Hauliers heading East.That covers the lot methinks, which one is it meant to be this thread?
I think the idea was a thread relating to old British made machines that headed to the Middle East, rather than ancient British blokes or
long forgotten hauliers from Britain who had a stab at the Middle East with British registered trucks.
Could be wrong, as that seems to be my usual resting place…
You were absolutely correct! 
It’s meant to be about the heroes who headed out there in day cab Big Js, Mk.1 Atkis, even the odd Leyland Mastiff! Not to mention AECs, Fodens, ERFs and Scammells
BTW: The orange and white Scania and Volvo’s and the blue Transcon were owned by Eric Birdale, Maidstone.
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Smashing thread Ash - Keep it British !
In fact, Birdale Ltd on BlueBell Hill, Maidstone was owned by Eric Wilson
OzzyHugh:
BTW: The orange and white Scania and Volvo’s and the blue Transcon were owned by Eric Birdale, Maidstone.
Smashing thread Ash - Keep it British !
In fact, Birdale Ltd on BlueBell Hill, Maidstone was owned by Eric Wilson
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Hullo OzzyHugh,
I may be wrong, but didn’t Birdale have a place somewhere up near the Hook and Hatchet, at Hucking ? In the wilds between Sittingbourne Road and Hollingbourne Hill. I seem to think that Pat Riley did a bit for them at one time.
Cheers, Archie.
hi all,
this thread is for me,the dogs undercarriage 
.i haven’t any photos that begin to compare with scammell’s and d series etc,however i have this one and a few more if it’s ok ash? i know the mw erf isn’t exactley ancient,but having owned an a series myself i salute any man who managed to do round trips to baghdad in a rabbit hutch equipped a series erf brilliant.
regards andrew.
Good Eric Vick pic, I wonder how many times on that trip the A series driver asked the other guy to swap trucks for a while.
Neil.