1975 Turkey,
orientmack:
1975 Turkey,
Day cab Mk.2 Atki heading east - fabulous!! Just what this thread is all about, thank you 
pete 359:
hi all,
this thread is for me,the dogs undercarriage
Nice one Andrew. Did you see Richard Read’s ERF A series on page 1? Luvin the Eric Vick pic.
Time for a few more: The thread’s all about British TRUCKS heading East. Not Volvo’s or Scania’s with Brit reg numbers, old old timer drivers, or old Brit haulage companys havin a bash! It’s all about the trucks!
Got these kindly from Kelvin Parfitt. He went in convoy to Kuwait and although he drove the Scammell with a comfy bed, like he said: at least the Foden had air con!
Crusader’s arent really ancient, but nevertheless, I reckon they deserve a place here especially when you read about some of the stories;
Derek Allens story…
Hi all,
A few more,a mate gave me some photos he took in the 1970’s at the Khyber pass of an english reg.Bedford tk,can’t find them and a few others at the moment,once I locate them,I’ll get them posted,in the meantime a few more of Eric vick’s mw erf’s.
Another mw,this time Richard read 
Archie Paice:
OzzyHugh:
BTW: The orange and white Scania and Volvo’s and the blue Transcon were owned by Eric Birdale, Maidstone.Smashing thread Ash - Keep it British !
In fact, Birdale Ltd on BlueBell Hill, Maidstone was owned by Eric Wilson
Chinky Nev was on for them for a while too. Had a drawbar Transcon. Keeps telling me he has hundreds of pictures from them days but keeps forgeting to hand them over!!!
truckerash:
Crusader’s arent really ancient, but nevertheless, I reckon they deserve a place here especially when you read about some of the stories;
Derek Allens story…
It shows what lengths fellow drivers would go to to help each other in an age that is long gone never get that now,as for Mr Allen (33) well he certainly had a hard paper round or was he related to Joan Collins 
Hi Truckerash,
A slight error in the info about the Bromilow liveried Scammell. I owned and drove that, Kelvin Parfitt did one trip to Saudi in the Foden after which ( owned by Bromilow)my brother did about 6 months Saudi in it.
Owing to pressure of work ( retirement means you dont get any days off!!!)and petty arguments on these threads I have not been on here of late, but I should have said much earlier that I thoroughly enjoyed your Astran book
Gavin
ps on page, I think 57 the yellow blob in the pic of the trucks at the Londra shows I am sure Johnny Robins yellow F86 which also ran under Bromilows colours
orientmack:
TM
Nice to see a pic of a Tm.What engine would have that had,■■■■■■■ or Detroit?
Cant imagine it having the Bedford 500 lump 
Suedehead:
orientmack:
TMNice to see a pic of a Tm.What engine would have that had,■■■■■■■ or Detroit?
Cant imagine it having the Bedford 500 lump
On an “S” plate, it would be a TM4200, with an 8V71 at 307bhp net. If I remember correctly. They became TM4400s after a while, when they had 8V92s up to 386bhp and various ■■■■■■■ options up to the E370, at about 355bhp net. I can’t remember which year this was- 1980? Someone on here will know better.
Anyone know of a Detroit V8 which survived for more than 100,000. Miles without major problems.
They were great engines in static plant but all the ones I cam across we’re dogs in trucks.
Jazzandy:
Anyone know of a Detroit V8 which survived for more than 100,000. Miles without major problems.They were great engines in static plant but all the ones I cam across we’re dogs in trucks.
There is a mad bull on TNUK. The above post represents, as much as is possible using normal language, a red rag. Prepare yourselves for the entire thread turning into a china shop. 
If anyone has a sensible response to Jazzandy’s perfectly sensible question- get it in quick, before the bedlam starts!
[zb]
anorak:Jazzandy:
Anyone know of a Detroit V8 which survived for more than 100,000. Miles without major problems.They were great engines in static plant but all the ones I cam across we’re dogs in trucks.
There is a mad bull on TNUK. The above post represents, as much as is possible using normal language, a red rag. Prepare yourselves for the entire thread turning into a china shop.
You beat me to it [zb] anorak although I’ve got a feeling the person we are both thinking about hasn’t seen the pictures of big TM’s with 8V Detroits in em 
, lets hope he stay’s well away so this thread can stay interesting.
Regards
Dave Penn;
As a barely-connected aside to this thread, I met a bloke a few years ago who was involved in the maintenance of 12v71’s, in quarry dumpers. He also said that he had a stint driving LB140s. Our paths have diverged since but, if anyone thinks he may have something to add, I’ll try and get in contact with him again.
Jazzandy:
Anyone know of a Detroit V8 which survived for more than 100,000. Miles without major problems.They were great engines in static plant but all the ones I cam across we’re dogs in trucks.
Early 92 series had a lot of problems, Detroits lost their reputation because of that engine family. Later 92s were actually quite good if driven right but there were not many who knew how to drive them. Older 71 series was much better.
BTW, in Finland there was one Bedford TM towtruck with 475 hp 8V92. I think it was a special order?
V8Lenny:
Early 92 series had a lot of problems, Detroits lost their reputation because of that engine family. Later 92s were actually quite good if driven right but there were not many who knew how to drive them. Older 71 series was much better.BTW, in Finland there was one Bedford TM towtruck with 475 hp 8V92. I think it was a special order?
In a handful of posts, more sense has been written about Detroit Diesel, than in the rest of the Forum.
Was the 475bhp Detroit not a 12v71 or 12v92? I thought the standard 8v92 had 430bhp, although I stand to be corrected. Apologies for the digression.
[zb]
anorak:V8Lenny:
Early 92 series had a lot of problems, Detroits lost their reputation because of that engine family. Later 92s were actually quite good if driven right but there were not many who knew how to drive them. Older 71 series was much better.BTW, in Finland there was one Bedford TM towtruck with 475 hp 8V92. I think it was a special order?
In a handful of posts, more sense has been written about Detroit Diesel, than in the rest of the Forum.
Was the 475bhp Detroit not a 12v71 or 12v92? I thought the standard 8v92 had 430bhp, although I stand to be corrected. Apologies for the digression.
Reading US boards they say that last mechanical 8V92 had 475 hp, it was a silver one, the earlier weak engines were green if I understand right.
Sorry, little off topic, this was about ancient Brits heading east, not north…