Am I too honest?

Buycrider:
Orys. I have just read your pm. You say that you pay Tax on the income that you get from your translating, and other incomes. You say that the rate which you are paid for your translating duties are not as high as those which I quoted in my post. I take your word for that. That is fair enough. My assumptions on that matter were not correct. I therefore apologise unreservedly for my comments.

You don’t have to :wink:

I really wish to be paid rates as hight as you quoted (and I bet everyone of you would like to be paid like that). I can’t see nothing wrong with that.

I also still think, that interpreting should be well-paid job, as it’s require years of education.

Yeah, asking questions if I am honest person and if I am paying my taxes might not be the nicer for me, but I fully understand that, as I know many exapmles of people, who avoiding their duty towards the country (and it’s regardless of their nationality).

So relax, it was nothing wrong with it. I PM’d you, as I did not wanted to disclose too much about my earnings, but I don’t like when people are judging other people without possessing enaugh knowledge and just believing in some myths :slight_smile:

So everything is OK for me (exept that I made fool of myself asking stupid question and showing my disknowledge about working time regulations :blush: ) and I am happy that many of us learned something today.

orys:
I was working as a driver today for 6 hours. Later I was called to interprete for the police.

I worked nearly 5.5 hours when they asked me if I can stay longer. I said that I can’t stay more than half an hour, becouse as I was driving today, I am under the driver’ hours regulation and I am not allowed to work more than 12 hours per day. We managed to finish the job during this 30’.

I’m no legal expert but surely there would be enough info on here for IA to launch and enquiry should they wish :question: :question:

Buycrider:
Your question was " Am I too honest?". My answer to that would be -Possibly not- but more probably ,just extracting the urine. In this thread,for instance, you are suggesting that the Police Inspector was suggesting that you could book some un-earned extra time/money, which is not legal.As you know ,this is a site populated by a number of Police,PCSO,s Vosa, Hato, members. You want to hope that one of them does not decide to inform Strathclyde Constabulary of your claim. You could then be classed as having been “Too Honest for your own good” Feel free to prove me wrong in any of the assumptions that I am making. If I owe you an apology, I will do so ; Publicly and without reservation.

there are bound to people reading this who may take a little more interest in it than others, too late to cover tracks though as they will of done screen prints by now :exclamation: :exclamation: :exclamation: every time somone knocks on your door mate, everytime the phone rings it could be the SFO wanting to talk to you :exclamation: :exclamation: :wink: (i’m joking) :laughing: :laughing:

I Honestly have to sit and laugh at some of the posts made on this site, not because they are funny but simply because of the green envy giant that lurks around the corners.

A Guy comes from Poland and tries to improve his lifestyle and is more or less mocked because unlike MANY Illegal immigrants, he gets off his arse and earns a wage.

He works as a driver and has found an extra income source from interpreting for people and some folk decide to have a go quoting our “Impoverished” Country paying for him to study in further education.

Now I Aint ever claimed to be the brightest bulb in the box but I obviously shine slighty brighter than others as I can not see Ory’s taking advantage of free education when he is a Tax Payer errrrrmmm should I repeat that bit, HE’s a TAX PAYER

It’s his taxes that also go towards his education, as for this impoverished country, why is it impoverished? is it because we have 1000’s of teenagers who would prefer to lie around the house all day scrounging off the state to support their binge drinking and drug use? or is it because we vote in politicians who aint in the least bit worried about our needs but instead more concerned about pushing their views into our faces by initiating laws that we dont agree with?

One further reason the country is in the state it is, is simply because we have bloody scottish & Welsh MP’s voting on laws that affect the English in the Houses of Parliament and yet they can vote the totally opposite way in a Scottish vote which the English MP’s have no say in hence the reason English folk pay for higher education and Scottish folk dont.

This country is going down the pan fast and I’m pleased I’ll be leaving it next year, some of the British Citizens are only good for one thing and thats cutting each others throats, or sitting there getting jealous when they see someone better off than themselves.

Ory’s only fault is being Polish, had he been French, Spanish or German etc, there would of been no mention of his second income, I’ve personally dealt with him and found his services cheap when compared to the professional companies out there.

15 hour day then a break of 11hours(can be 9 3times a week),then the weekly break.So if translating goes on during the daily(or weekly) break that must be allowed for and time added on,as it is classed as other work ie paid work.

ROG:
If you work as orys did for 6 hours under EU regs and that was the only time that week that he was under those regs, are you then restricted by what you can do afterwards in terms of work time if the next job does not come under EU or RTD regs :question:

I know the ‘other work’ done in the second job would have to be listed on say, the back of a seperate tacho card, but does it still have to fit in with the daily rest requirement of a least 9 hours within 24 from when the driving job was started :question:

silly me :blush: - the answer is that 9 hours must be taken within the 24 hour period that was commenced undr EU regs. :slight_smile:

so the 12 hours mentioned should be a max of 15 from when the EU reg period started

I also still think, that interpreting should be well-paid job, as it’s require years of education.

My older brother self taught himself how to speak russian fluently,and that didnt take him years of education.he’s a natuarlly bright guy anyway with various ‘o’ levels and various highers.oh and hes a copper orys. :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

kitkat:

I also still think, that interpreting should be well-paid job, as it’s require years of education.

My older brother self taught himself how to speak russian fluently,and that didnt take him years of education.he’s a natuarlly bright guy anyway with various ‘o’ levels and various highers.oh and hes a copper orys. :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

Good for him. We may meet one day… :slight_smile:

orys:
Better give me an answer, as I am already confused and it seems that I mixed it all :frowning:

Hi orys, this might help, but I just hope I’ve got the spellings and grammar correct :grimacing: :wink:

Artykuł 8

  1. Kierowca korzysta z dziennego i tygodniowego okresu odpoczynku.
  2. W każdym 24 godzinnym okresie po upływie poprzedniego dziennego okresu odpoczynku lub tygodniowego okresu odpoczynku kierowca musi wykorzystać kolejny dzienny okres odpoczynku.
    Jeśli część dziennego okresu odpoczynku zawarta w 24 godzinnym okresie wynosi co najmniej 9 godzin, ale mniej niż 11 godzin, wówczas ten dzienny okres odpoczynku uznaje się za skrócony dzienny okres odpoczynku.

And once again in English…

Article 8

  1. A driver shall take daily and weekly rest periods
  2. Within each period of 24 hours after the end of the previous daily rest period or weekly rest period a driver shall have taken a new daily rest period
    If the portion of the daily rest period which falls within that 24 hour period is at least nine hours but less than 11 hours, then the daily rest period in question shall be regarded as a reduced daily rest period.

:open_mouth: :blush: :blush: OK, I’ll own-up, I got it in bi-lingual form from :arrow_right: HERE :grimacing: :stuck_out_tongue:

Here’s a .pdf Polish version for you orys, which you can download and save/print:

:arrow_right: ROZPORZĄDZENIE (WE) nr 561/2006 PARLAMENTU EUROPEJSKIEGO I RADY :smiley:

:slight_smile:

So this is what I know…

I don’t know where I took this 12 hours rule from :wink:

orys:
:slight_smile:

So this is what I know…

I don’t know where I took this 12 hours rule from :wink:

Hi orys,
There are some interesting clicky things in my post above. :wink:

Your typing is quicker than mine. :frowning:

Thank you. Now I know everything. Except one big mistery:

Where I did get that 12 hours from? :grimacing:

orys:
Thank you. Now I know everything. Except one big mistery:

Where I did get that 12 hours from? :grimacing:

Domestic regs - 11 hours max duty time plus 1 hour for lunch - OK, I know :laughing: but it was the best I can come up with :unamused: :laughing: :laughing:

Davey Driver:
I Honestly have to sit and laugh at some of the posts made on this site, not because they are funny but simply because of the green envy giant that lurks around the corners.

A Guy comes from Poland and tries to improve his lifestyle and is more or less mocked because unlike MANY Illegal immigrants, he gets off his arse and earns a wage.

He works as a driver and has found an extra income source from interpreting for people and some folk decide to have a go quoting our “Impoverished” Country paying for him to study in further education.

Now I Aint ever claimed to be the brightest bulb in the box but I obviously shine slighty brighter than others as I can not see Ory’s taking advantage of free education when he is a Tax Payer errrrrmmm should I repeat that bit, HE’s a TAX PAYER

It’s his taxes that also go towards his education, as for this impoverished country, why is it impoverished? is it because we have 1000’s of teenagers who would prefer to lie around the house all day scrounging off the state to support their binge drinking and drug use? or is it because we vote in politicians who aint in the least bit worried about our needs but instead more concerned about pushing their views into our faces by initiating laws that we dont agree with?

One further reason the country is in the state it is, is simply because we have bloody scottish & Welsh MP’s voting on laws that affect the English in the Houses of Parliament and yet they can vote the totally opposite way in a Scottish vote which the English MP’s have no say in hence the reason English folk pay for higher education and Scottish folk dont.

This country is going down the pan fast and I’m pleased I’ll be leaving it next year, some of the British Citizens are only good for one thing and thats cutting each others throats, or sitting there getting jealous when they see someone better off than themselves.

Ory’s only fault is being Polish, had he been French, Spanish or German etc, there would of been no mention of his second income, I’ve personally dealt with him and found his services cheap when compared to the professional companies out there.

Nail on the head, I find myself in total agreement :open_mouth:

froggy:
15 hour day then a break of 11hours (can be 9 3times a week)

Not possible to take an 11 hour daily rest after working 15 hours, if you do work 15 hours you are using one of your reductions, in this case 9 hours, whether you like it or not.

Coffeeholic:

froggy:
15 hour day then a break of 11hours (can be 9 3times a week)

Not possible to take an 11 hour daily rest after working 15 hours, if you do work 15 hours you are using one of your reductions, in this case 9 hours, whether you like it or not.

mate do you ever get sick and tired mate of reminding people that the working day ‘period’ (or words to that effect) has 24 hours in it and not 26 hours etc etc :exclamation: :exclamation: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

Cruise Control:

Coffeeholic:

froggy:
15 hour day then a break of 11hours (can be 9 3times a week)

Not possible to take an 11 hour daily rest after working 15 hours, if you do work 15 hours you are using one of your reductions, in this case 9 hours, whether you like it or not.

mate do you ever get sick and tired mate of reminding people that the working day ‘period’ (or words to that effect) has 24 hours in it and not 26 hours etc etc :exclamation: :exclamation: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

Not yet. :stuck_out_tongue:

At least you chose the best city in the UK to live Orys

if any police forces/dentists/solicitors or anyone need me to translate say an arrested geordie in trouble in a nick,im more than willing to come and translate into proper english for a very reasonable fee!
ie “it wasnt me that done it reet,i woz doon the toon wi wor lass and the bairn havin some jars…like” roughly means"i say dear chap,it was not involved with the aforementioned crime,i was in the city with my good lady and daughter having a drink …ok". :wink: :laughing:

buck73:
if any police forces/dentists/solicitors or anyone need me to translate say an arrested geordie in trouble in a nick,im more than willing to come and translate into proper english for a very reasonable fee!
ie “it wasnt me that done it reet,i woz doon the toon wi wor lass and the bairn havin some jars…like” roughly means"i say dear chap,it was not involved with the aforementioned crime,i was in the city with my good lady and daughter having a drink …ok". :wink: :laughing:

Quality :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

I feel for you with your moral dilemma, I’m sure others do too. But when others on this site have more worrying dilemmas on their minds, redundancy, illness costing them their jobs and such like your dilemmas about your 2nd job seem to fade into the distance. :confused: Especially when tax payers pay for immigrants to have translators. :frowning: