I was working as a driver today for 6 hours. Later I was called to interprete for the police.
I worked nearly 5.5 hours when they asked me if I can stay longer. I said that I can’t stay more than half an hour, becouse as I was driving today, I am under the driver’ hours regulation and I am not allowed to work more than 12 hours per day. We managed to finish the job during this 30’.
Well I hope you don’t blabber to them with things like “I am a member of truck net bla bla bla”
… You wouldn’t want the inspector to see this now, would you? Also, sod the drivers hours regs when you’re doing that type of work.
orys:
I was working as a driver today for 6 hours. Later I was called to interprete for the police.I worked nearly 5.5 hours when they asked me if I can stay longer. I said that I can’t stay more than half an hour, becouse as I was driving today, I am under the driver’ hours regulation and I am not allowed to work more than 12 hours per day. We managed to finish the job during this 30’.
Then the POLICE INSPECTOR asked me if I want to have exact hour written on my time sheet, or if I want him to add me an hour or half to gain some extra income…
Maybe I am strange, but I feel bad if I am lying and I expected Police to be first in honesty…
(just for your information: I answered that I want him to write exact and true time)
If you asked the question Orys, then perhaps you are…too honest, that is. Never mind, honesty always pays in the end 
orys:
I was working as a driver today for 6 hours. Later I was called to interprete for the police.I worked nearly 5.5 hours when they asked me if I can stay longer. I said that I can’t stay more than half an hour, becouse as I was driving today, I am under the driver’ hours regulation and I am not allowed to work more than 12 hours per day. We managed to finish the job during this 30’.
Then the POLICE INSPECTOR asked me if I want to have exact hour written on my time sheet, or if I want him to add me an hour or half to gain some extra income…
Maybe I am strange, but I feel bad if I am lying and I expected Police to be first in honesty…
(just for your information: I answered that I want him to write exact and true time)
Should have got him to added on an extra hour and also asked him if he would sign some blank tachographs for you 
Are you also exempt from weekend household duties? And how about partner duties? 
Under driver’s hours you have to take rest…
You’re stretching it a bit; relaaaaaaaax
Orys, you regularly mention the translating work that you do -for the police, Dentists, etc.- Why do you not let your admirers on TNUK know how much you get paid for doing this ? I have a feeling that it would make the un-employed drivers, and those members on here who are on £6 per hour, green with envy. I ask this question solely because a lady interpreter of Polish descent lives in my village. She tells me that for the work that she does, and it is mainly for the Police,Dentists,and at job interviews, she is paid in excess of £30 per hour. She claims that she does not charge an excessive rate for what she does.Which begs another question. Being so highly paid for your Translating duties, for which you appear to be in great demand; and being , as an Eastern European Immigrant,in reciept of what is, (reportedly),a British Taxpayer funded Degree Course education at Strathclyde University, for which you do not pay any Student Fees; are you by any chance paying Tax on your income? So that you are doing your bit to help this impoverished country from which you are gaining such benefit, yet for which you often, in your average of 4 posts per day, show a degree of contempt. Your question was " Am I too honest?". My answer to that would be -Possibly not- but more probably ,just extracting the urine. In this thread,for instance, you are suggesting that the Police Inspector was suggesting that you could book some un-earned extra time/money, which is not legal.As you know ,this is a site populated by a number of Police,PCSO,s Vosa, Hato, members. You want to hope that one of them does not decide to inform Strathclyde Constabulary of your claim. You could then be classed as having been “Too Honest for your own good” Feel free to prove me wrong in any of the assumptions that I am making. If I owe you an apology, I will do so ; Publicly and without reservation.
orys:
I was working as a driver today for 6 hours. Later I was called to interprete for the police.I worked nearly 5.5 hours when they asked me if I can stay longer. I said that I can’t stay more than half an hour, becouse as I was driving today, I am under the driver’ hours regulation and I am not allowed to work more than 12 hours per day.
How you figure that 12 hour bit 
do you pay tax on the translating fees…■■ is that the real honesty question …lol…
would a plumber/spark/mechanic/whatever pay tax on homers? Oh no lets call in a lynching mob 
Buycrider:
Orys, you regularly mention the translating work that you do -for the police, Dentists, etc.- Why do you not let your admirers on TNUK know how much you get paid for doing this ?
Why you should be so interested with that? If it’s so great job, learn some languages and go on. There are some Scottish people interpreting as well.
You propably won’t believe it anyway, but I can tell you:
For typical police job I have hourly rate arround some better rates for class one driving + travel, pre-taxed, but mind that most police jobs are ususally long for hour or less. And if you accept such jobs during the day, you got your day spoiled, as in most cases you won’t be able to get any job from the agency. Luckily police jobs are urgent, so they always want me ASAP, so if they call me, and if I don’t do anything else at the moment, I go there.
As for jobs other than Police, I don’t touch them any more. There is a flat rate for first two hours with travel unpaid for up to 70 miles. In this case after I travel over one hour, work for two, come back home and refuel my car, I got about 10 quids pre-taxed. And these jobs are usually pre-scheduled and during the day. I prefere much more to get agency shift, even if it’s van driving for minimum wage.
I have a feeling that it would make the un-employed drivers, and those members on here who are on £6 per hour, green with envy.
I think not. They would be even happy to see, that driving agencies are not the bigger ■■■■■■■■■
I heard that driving agencies makes less then one quid per hour profit on our work nowadays. And if you are paid 7, the client pays afency about 12 for your work. My agency charge them 6 times more than I get, and I still have to pay my tax and NI of it
I ask this question solely because a lady interpreter of Polish descent lives in my village. She tells me that for the work that she does, and it is mainly for the Police,Dentists,and at job interviews, she is paid in excess of £30 per hour. She claims that she does not charge an excessive rate for what she does.
Good for her. I heard that the rates in England and Wales are much better than Scottish ones. I heard that Welsh police interpretor is paid fixed rate of 110 pounds for first three hours of work + travel
I don’t think that it is too excessive. Interpreting is a high skilled work. You can gain class 1 driving license + CPC and all courses in few months. To learn another language to this level, you have to learn it for years. And the job itself is quite responsible: if you put something through wrong and that changes the sense, you can put someone to jail (or save him from it). In many cases you are target of abuse and you are not protected to this level than police officers are. And last but not least, procurator fiscal often wants you to be a witness at court, which is completely waste of time (and taxpayers money!) as you can’t tell them anything more about the case that you interpreted already (and you have many jobs and you don’t remember each of them). But you have to go.
Which begs another question. Being so highly paid for your Translating duties, for which you appear to be in great demand
Forget. I don’t know anyone who can survive solely on goverment contracts.
and being , as an Eastern European Immigrant
Would there be any change if I would be, say, Spanish immigrant?
in reciept of what is, (reportedly),a British Taxpayer funded Degree Course education at Strathclyde University, for which you do not pay any Student Fees
Not Strathclyde. And there is plenty of British students studying at Medical University in my native town, also for free. I think it’s very good that there is that exchange.
are you by any chance paying Tax on your income?
And are you paying Tax on your income? Becouse if you are asking, it’s seems that it’s not so obvious as it was for me till now. So if you know some way to do not pay them, please let me know 
So that you are doing your bit to help this impoverished country from which you are gaining such benefit, yet for which you often, in your average of 4 posts per day, show a degree of contempt. Your question was " Am I too honest?". My answer to that would be -Possibly not- but more probably ,just extracting the urine. In this thread,for instance, you are suggesting that the Police Inspector was suggesting that you could book some un-earned extra time/money, which is not legal.As you know ,this is a site populated by a number of Police,PCSO,s Vosa, Hato, members. You want to hope that one of them does not decide to inform Strathclyde Constabulary of your claim. You could then be classed as having been “Too Honest for your own good” Feel free to prove me wrong in any of the assumptions that I am making. If I owe you an apology, I will do so ; Publicly and without reservation.
I never thought that some rumours from internet forum can be taken so seriously. I can write here whatever I want and it’s completely uncheckable. I could understand him wrong (after 12 hours I wasn’t thinking very fast). I might want to wind you up and made it up. You don’t know.
But for your peace of minf I removed it and I ask mods to remove it from quotes as well.
man-tga:
do you pay tax on the translating fees…■■ is that the real honesty question …lol…
Do you pay tax on your truck driving income?
ROG:
orys:
I was working as a driver today for 6 hours. Later I was called to interprete for the police.I worked nearly 5.5 hours when they asked me if I can stay longer. I said that I can’t stay more than half an hour, becouse as I was driving today, I am under the driver’ hours regulation and I am not allowed to work more than 12 hours per day.
How you figure that 12 hour bit
That was what I was asking for.
When driving the lorry apart of the driving limits, I am not allowed to do more than 12 hours of ANY work that day. I thought that interpreting is ANY work. Am I wrong?
Or maybe, as it’s separate job, the 12 hours rule not apply? And then I am only obliged to have minimum daily rest?
Anyway, I would not want to stay there any longer, as after 12 ohours of work quality of my service is really going down…
Here you are Orys, another welcome boost to your income with Motor Cycle News.
MCN is working on a story about a new kind of two-stroke engine developed by a Polish engineer.
Unfortunately he doesn’t speak a word of English, and we don’t speak a word of Polish. Can anyone out there help?
You must have a good understanding of engine terms and parts (in both languages), and be able to come to MCN’s office in Peterborough during working hours.
We would like to take you through what we already know about the design, and then get you to act as an interpreter on the phone.
It should take about an hour in total. We’ll pay your petrol and £100.
If you can do this, please email rupert.paul@motorcyclenews.com by Thursday 5pm.
ROG:
orys:
I was working as a driver today for 6 hours. Later I was called to interprete for the police.I worked nearly 5.5 hours when they asked me if I can stay longer. I said that I can’t stay more than half an hour, becouse as I was driving today, I am under the driver’ hours regulation and I am not allowed to work more than 12 hours per day.
How you figure that 12 hour bit
Hi orys, How did you get to the number 12 in: “I am not allowed to work more than 12 hours per day”?
Is this a game called ‘think of a number’? 
If you work as orys did for 6 hours under EU regs and that was the only time that week that he was under those regs, are you then restricted by what you can do afterwards in terms of work time if the next job does not come under EU or RTD regs
I know the ‘other work’ done in the second job would have to be listed on say, the back of a seperate tacho card, but does it still have to fit in with the daily rest requirement of a least 9 hours within 24 from when the driving job was started
dieseldave:
Hi orys, How did you get to the number 12 in: “I am not allowed to work more than 12 hours per day”?Is this a game called ‘think of a number’?
Ha! Good point. I just went trough all these regulations, and did not found any things like that. Off course there are some average limits, but as I am working casually it is not apply to me.
I think it was some internal regulation in places I used to work… Otherwise I can’t really imagine where I tool that rule from, but I have to admit that till today I was perfectly sure about that such a rule exists…
So: I learned something useful today. Thank you all…
And as they say, it’s better to ask foolish question once, than to be an idiot for your whole life
ROG:
If you work as orys did for 6 hours under EU regs and that was the only time that week that he was under those regs, are you then restricted by what you can do afterwards in terms of work time if the next job does not come under EU or RTD regsI know the ‘other work’ done in the second job would have to be listed on say, the back of a seperate tacho card, but does it still have to fit in with the daily rest requirement of a least 9 hours within 24 from when the driving job was started
Better give me an answer, as I am already confused and it seems that I mixed it all 
orys:
But for your peace of mind I removed it and I ask mods to remove it from quotes as well.
More like someone has made a valid point about the authorities viewing this site and you want to cover your arse
Orys. I have just read your pm. You say that you pay Tax on the income that you get from your translating, and other incomes. You say that the rate which you are paid for your translating duties are not as high as those which I quoted in my post. I take your word for that. That is fair enough. My assumptions on that matter were not correct. I therefore apologise unreservedly for my comments.
garnerlives:
orys:
But for your peace of mind I removed it and I ask mods to remove it from quotes as well.More like someone has made a valid point about the authorities viewing this site and you want to cover your arse
As for that: I did nothing wrong, expressing my suprise of what I saw on the public forum may be not the best way to behave, but it’s not illegal, as long as I did not disclosed the particulars of the case I was interpreting for, as this is confident. Many people on this forum wrote about many things they did wrong themselves (for example: speeding, bending the rules etc.) and nothing happened to them. Therefore I am not affraid of anything.
I just wanted to cut discussion on this subject, as I am not interessed in following that part of my post. Again: it was just expressing my suprise, and I used it for strenghtening of picture of my moral dillema 
