_JD:
I begin to get texts and calls from agencies asking me for jobs I do not do, but it is getting closer… feels it is gaining momentum.
So little work that everyone’s avoiding losing an edge by giving up information to an avid community lurking in silence…
Define ‘jobs you don’t do’ ■■.
Assuming that means local retail distribution/building materials deliveries etc etc type work ■■ then 3 is a logical implication of that and it’s nothing new.
Decent quality distance work is generally a dead man’s shoes, rarely advertised closed shop.I won’t bother with the word elite but deffo usually reserved word of mouth for those in the know.
Assuming that you do want to ‘do’ local/multi drop/builders wagon/18t/7.5t type dross then it’s a good bet that many/most agencies will keep you busy if not very busy.
While a political climate that is hell bent on minimising truck miles creates the perfect storm for anyone who didn’t enter the industry to be a final miles/logistics sector operative at best.
Relevant indeed.
how TF are you gonna get sighed up with some agency you’ve not even heard of, let alone MET yet between now and your start time, getting those all-important insurances in place?
Carryfast:
Define ‘jobs you don’t do’ ■■.
Assuming that means local retail distribution/building materials deliveries etc etc type work ■■ then 3 is a logical implication of that and it’s nothing new.
Why do you always assume that every driver shares your ■■■■■■■■■ of spending 10 hours a day driving up and down a motorway from A to B?
Carryfast:
Decent quality distance work is generally a dead man’s shoes, rarely advertised closed shop.I won’t bother with the word elite but deffo usually reserved word of mouth for those in the know.
No it’s not. That’s just you spouting your usual BS because every employer or agency saw straight through you as a waste of space. I’ve done plenty of the work you always bang on about being the holy grail (most on agency), I put zero effort into getting this sort of work, just what I ended up doing. Quite frankly I find it mind numbingly boring and couldn’t think of anything worse, but I find it hilarious and baffling at the same time you couldn’t manage to find any of it. There is so much available out there if you want nothing but trunking/trailer swaps etc.
Carryfast:
Assuming that you do want to ‘do’ local/multi drop/builders wagon/18t/7.5t type dross then it’s a good bet that many/most agencies will keep you busy if not very busy.
As a class 1 driver I was always kept busy and never went near a builders merchant, 7.5/18t truck, or a warehouse as a labourer.
Carryfast:
While a political climate that is hell bent on minimising truck miles creates the perfect storm for anyone who didn’t enter the industry to be a final miles/logistics sector operative at best.
Relevant indeed.
So the entire haulage industry should change and accommodate you solely so you get to live out your fantasy?
Carryfast:
Decent quality distance work is generally a dead man’s shoes, rarely advertised closed shop.I won’t bother with the word elite but deffo usually reserved word of mouth for those in the know.
And yet you’d struggle to get parked up in any truckstop or motorway service area in the land much after six o’ clock because they are rammed out with trucks which are away from base.
Carryfast:
Define ‘jobs you don’t do’ ■■.
Assuming that means local retail distribution/building materials deliveries etc etc type work ■■ then 3 is a logical implication of that and it’s nothing new.
Why do you always assume that every driver shares your ■■■■■■■■■ of spending 10 hours a day driving up and down a motorway from A to B?
Carryfast:
Decent quality distance work is generally a dead man’s shoes, rarely advertised closed shop.I won’t bother with the word elite but deffo usually reserved word of mouth for those in the know.
No it’s not. That’s just you spouting your usual BS because every employer or agency saw straight through you as a waste of space. I’ve done plenty of the work you always bang on about being the holy grail (most on agency), I put zero effort into getting this sort of work, just what I ended up doing. Quite frankly I find it mind numbingly boring and couldn’t think of anything worse, but I find it hilarious and baffling at the same time you couldn’t manage to find any of it. There is so much available out there if you want nothing but trunking/trailer swaps etc.
Carryfast:
Assuming that you do want to ‘do’ local/multi drop/builders wagon/18t/7.5t type dross then it’s a good bet that many/most agencies will keep you busy if not very busy.
As a class 1 driver I was always kept busy and never went near a builders merchant, 7.5/18t truck, a warehouse as a labourer.
Carryfast:
While a political climate that is hell bent on minimising truck miles creates the perfect storm for anyone who didn’t enter the industry to be a final miles/logistics sector operative at best.
Relevant indeed.
So the entire haulage industry should change and accommodate you solely so you get to live out your fantasy?
To be fair I did ask the OP to define ‘his’ not ‘my’ choice of work that ‘he’ ‘won’t do’.IE nothing to do with ‘my’ choice or me so obviously no need or point in your attack.
As I said the government has made no secret of its plans to ‘change’ much of the industry into a final miles operation serving the rail freight sector.
Which obviously means even less ‘decent’ work ‘unless’ the OP likes doing local/multi drop etc etc type work of which agency books are generally full of.
Carryfast:
Decent quality distance work is generally a dead man’s shoes, rarely advertised closed shop.I won’t bother with the word elite but deffo usually reserved word of mouth for those in the know.
And yet you’d struggle to get parked up in any truckstop or motorway service area in the land much after six o’ clock because they are rammed out with trucks which are away from base.
Firstly many of those places will be taken by foreign East Euro international operations so less opportunities for Brit drivers there.
Domestic distance work won’t generally be agency work.
Nights out isn’t mutually exclusive with local medium distance multi drop/distribution sector dross.Possibly no more than 100 miles radius from base.In fact probably more likely han those full load 4 on 4 off regular London - Scottish runs.
Increasingly so as the plan for rail kicks on.
Carryfast:
Decent quality distance work is generally a dead man’s shoes, rarely advertised closed shop.I won’t bother with the word elite but deffo usually reserved word of mouth for those in the know.
And yet you’d struggle to get parked up in any truckstop or motorway service area in the land much after six o’ clock because they are rammed out with trucks which are away from base.
Yeah but you do know all those driver’s aren’t actually parked up for the night or on a break, they are in the service’s working as labourers - serving the food at the fast food places, manning the tills at the shops and cleaning the toilets, well according to Carryfast anyway.
Carryfast:
Decent quality distance work is generally a dead man’s shoes, rarely advertised closed shop.I won’t bother with the word elite but deffo usually reserved word of mouth for those in the know.
And yet you’d struggle to get parked up in any truckstop or motorway service area in the land much after six o’ clock because they are rammed out with trucks which are away from base.
Yeah but you do know all those driver’s aren’t actually parked up for the night or on a break, they are in the service’s working as labourers - serving the food at the fast food places, manning the tills at the shops and cleaning the toilets, well according to Carryfast anyway.
Yep obviously mostly agency drivers doing two London Glasgow return trailer swap day trunks 4 on 4 off who’d prefer to be doing 5 on 2 off local multi drop with an 18 tonne.
Can you please provide an up to date list of all the railfreight interchange sites where goods will be transhipped from all those freight trains for those final mile delivery trips? I’d like to move to one, to get my foot in early…
Can you please provide an up to date list of all the railfreight interchange sites where goods will be transhipped from all those freight trains for those final mile delivery trips? I’d like to move to one, to get my foot in early…
Thank you
There you go ND with the win win that you’ll also find a cheap blighted house.
So tell us OP.Which jobs are you saying you ‘don’t do’ v those which you do want to do ?.
4 on 4 off London - Scotch trailer swaps day trunking or driving a builders wagon around the local streets or an 18 tonner if not an artic in the local distribution and warehousing sector ?.The choice is yours ( or probably not ).
Carryfast:
Which obviously means even less ‘decent’ work ‘unless’ the OP likes doing local/multi drop etc etc type work of which agency books are generally full of.
Yes but the thing is that if I was looking to do distance work with nights out then I wouldn’t be looking for it through an agency, I would be approaching firms who did that type of thing directly.
And anyway the term “decent” work is meaningless. My ideal day is spent in a triangle comprising of Nuneaton- Lutterworth- Daventry. When I wanted to travel further afield then I wouldn’t have worked for the firm I work for now.
Carryfast:
Which obviously means even less ‘decent’ work ‘unless’ the OP likes doing local/multi drop etc etc type work of which agency books are generally full of.
Yes but the thing is that if I was looking to do distance work with nights out then I wouldn’t be looking for it through an agency, I would be approaching firms who did that type of thing directly.
And anyway the term “decent” work is meaningless. My ideal day is spent in a triangle comprising of Nuneaton- Lutterworth- Daventry. When I wanted to travel further afield then I wouldn’t have worked for the firm I work for now.
Proper distance work will generally involve nights out.Unlike local work, on the basis of journeys which involve too many miles to get done within 9-10 hours driving time.IE London-Glasgow-London.
As opposed to local or medium distance multi drop involving too many drops and unloading/unloading operations to get done in a 12-15 hour shift.In which the truck hasn’t gone further than 100 miles from base and let’s say 300 miles max.Bit might still require nights out.( Been there done that ).
‘Decent’ work in this specific case obviously means work that the OP doesn’t describe as work he ‘won’t do’ and my bet is that ‘won’t do’ means the usual type of local distribution sector type dross which generally fills agency books.
As opposed to 4 on 4 off day distance work consisting of maximum driving and trailer swaps.
The fact that he won’t generally find the latter on agency if at all is the point.While if he wants to drive for a few hours around the Midlands or London area and spend the majority of his time doing ‘other duties’ then he obviously won’t have any problem finding all the work he wants on agency.
Plan for Rail and HGV driver shortage indeed.
Carryfast:
Yep obviously mostly agency drivers doing two London Glasgow return trailer swap day trunks 4 on 4 off who’d prefer to be doing 5 on 2 off local multi drop with an 18 tonne.
When I worked for Argos we used to send stuff up in containers from the Midlands to our depots in Scotland by train, largely because it was more cost effective and they could send more stuff up in one go. Are you saying you expect for a company to incur more cost and expense to their business and to send it by road just to accommodate the fact you fancy a jolly up the M6 and back a couple of times a week?
Harry Monk:
Yes but the thing is that if I was looking to do distance work with nights out then I wouldn’t be looking for it through an agency, I would be approaching firms who did that type of thing directly.
The only problem there for Carryfast is that his face doesn’t fit and he’s bottom of the mythical pecking order.
Carryfast:
Firstly many of those places will be taken by foreign East Euro international operations so less opportunities for Brit drivers there.
Domestic distance work won’t generally be agency work.
Nights out isn’t mutually exclusive with local medium distance multi drop/distribution sector dross.Possibly no more than 100 miles radius from base.In fact probably more likely han those full load 4 on 4 off regular London - Scottish runs.
Increasingly so as the plan for rail kicks on.
Does this theory come from your vast experience in the trucking world in the last 25 years?
Carryfast:
Yep obviously mostly agency drivers doing two London Glasgow return trailer swap day trunks 4 on 4 off who’d prefer to be doing 5 on 2 off local multi drop with an 18 tonne.
When I worked for Argos we used to send stuff up in containers from the Midlands to our depots in Scotland by train, largely because it was more cost effective and they could send more stuff up in one go. Are you saying you expect for a company to incur more cost and expense to their business and to send it by road just to accommodate the fact you fancy a jolly up the M6 and back a couple of times a week?
So you’re saying that the whole business case of the long haul road transport sector was/is based on providing me personally with a loss making long haul jolly up the M6 and back.
Bewick for one would be pleased to hear it bearing in mind that I was way too young to even hold a driving licence during the best of those years.
Carryfast:
Domestic distance work won’t generally be agency work.
Then quite simply, if you want to do domestic distance work, don’t work via an agency. Identify a firm which does that type of work, and work for them directly. It’s not rocket science.
Can you please provide an up to date list of all the railfreight interchange sites where goods will be transhipped from all those freight trains for those final mile delivery trips? I’d like to move to one, to get my foot in early…
Thank you
There you go ND with the win win that you’ll also find a cheap blighted house.
So tell us OP.Which jobs are you saying you ‘don’t do’ v those which you do want to do ?.
4 on 4 off London - Scotch trailer swaps day trunking or driving a builders wagon around the local streets or an 18 tonner if not an artic in the local distribution and warehousing sector ?.The choice is yours ( or probably not ).
If you have a paid subscription to rail freight.com, can you copy and paste the article?
Carryfast:
Domestic distance work won’t generally be agency work.
Then quite simply, if you want to do domestic distance work, don’t work via an agency. Identify a firm which does that type of work, and work for them directly. It’s not rocket science.
Which brings us back to the old chestnut of an over subscribed sector of the industry and lack of opportunity especially for new entrants.That’s assuming the OPs motivation is along those lines.
So the conclusion as it stands is the OPs options are relatively limited towards agency work for whatever reason ?.Then got a shock when he found out the type of work that mostly fills agency books.
We won’t know for sure until/unless he answers that question regarding work he ‘wont do’.
