Hi lads if I have driven my days driving time and I 10 min from depot can I drive to it or must I take a night out
DOn’t think I’d do a night out for 10 minutes. Either pull your card and chance it or do a print out and make up an excuse about heavy traffic and looking for somewhere to park up. Don’t make a habit of it and I’d say you’ll be fine,
Tin hat on ready for a flaming.
By law you should park up, or take a chance and run back making sure you do a printout and state the reasons for running over! But DO NOT pull your card whatever you do!
p.s. Have you used all your 10s?
mick.mh2racing:
DOn’t think I’d do a night out for 10 minutes. Either pull your card and chance it or do a print out and make up an excuse about heavy traffic and looking for somewhere to park up. Don’t make a habit of it and I’d say you’ll be fine,
Tin hat on ready for a flaming.
No flaming here; that’s pretty much on the money. VOSA guidelines are tailored to accept this, even though technically you’ve broken the law.
HOWEVER… if like me you’ve got a company policy of NO infringements, park up and either walk home or get the missus to fetch you. Since, as I understand it, you must be free to dispose of your own time as you choose when on rest, I would suggest that they cannot complain although I don’t think I’d actually claim the night out money. A night in me own bed’s worth far more than twenty-odd quid.
Sidevalve:
mick.mh2racing:
DOn’t think I’d do a night out for 10 minutes. Either pull your card and chance it or do a print out and make up an excuse about heavy traffic and looking for somewhere to park up. Don’t make a habit of it and I’d say you’ll be fine,
Tin hat on ready for a flaming.No flaming here; that’s pretty much on the money. VOSA guidelines are tailored to accept this, even though technically you’ve broken the law.
HOWEVER… if like me you’ve got a company policy of NO infringements, park up and either walk home or get the missus to fetch you. Since, as I understand it, you must be free to dispose of your own time as you choose when on rest, I would suggest that they cannot complain although I don’t think I’d actually claim the night out money. A night in me own bed’s worth far more than twenty-odd quid.
plus 1
If its a rare occurence and you can give a good argument that your have a valid reason due to an unforseen event and/or its safer for the load and the general public that your wagon is returned to the depot then you should be OK.
But I would keep a copy of all paperwork for this in case of future scrutiny.
Probably be easier to ring your TM well before hand saying your running a bit close and to be on the safeside could another driver (if there is one) be sent out to drive your wagon home for the last few miles.
I’ve done this in the old days when another driver was about half an hour away and wanted to get home.
Scotsmanok:
Hi lads if I have driven my days driving time and I 10 min from depot can I drive to it or must I take a night out
Probably too late to help now, but for future reference if you’re just 10 minutes from base and can get back to base within the current 4½ hour driving period keep going.
As long as you don’t make a regular habit of it VOSA will allow you 15 minutes over your daily driving limit to get back to base.
Ring the wife up thirty mins prior to parking up, 
tacho out, night out 
go home for nine hours and claim nightout 
then after you’ve ragged the missus all night get her to run you back to the wagon AND RUN IN SATURDAY MORNING! 
Slow down a bit and make it half hour or so from base then park up somewhere decent and enjoy your night out. Simples!
I have put this post in another thread but its valid here i think…seeing as its not apparently legal for the company to recover the driver AT ALL if they run out of hours (not driving time), according to what we were told they can recover the lorry but not you…here goes…
On a similar note this gem was told to us on the last DCPC module.
OK you’ve worked right up to your 15 hour limit and managed to park up at the services 20 miles from your house.
Your Mrs pops out in the car to pick you up and will return you in the morning…we’ll all done this, i have…if VOSA see you doing this they will nick you apparently, obviously in practice you won’t have your Mrs drive right up to the lorry and start unloading your kit, but in theory at least thats supposed to be the case.
Cobblers? Yes i think its cobblers too, certainly it’s moral cobblers as what i do in my time is my business, but the trainer insisted this is the case.
Presumably you could walk home over 8 hours and that would be legal?, no i’m flumoxed as well.
What we supposed to do, take covert avoidance training in order to throw off the VOSA spy tailing you, Mr Bond… 
If it was someone from work then yes you would get done by VOSA as you are still classed as working and as you have done a 15 hour day you have no duty time left, but your missus picking you up its nowt to do with still working and yes I would say its ■■■■■■■■ too
Juddian:
I have put this post in another thread but its valid here i think…seeing as its not apparently legal for the company to recover the driver AT ALL if they run out of hours (not driving time), according to what we were told they can recover the lorry but not you…here goes…On a similar note this gem was told to us on the last DCPC module.
OK you’ve worked right up to your 15 hour limit and managed to park up at the services 20 miles from your house.
Your Mrs pops out in the car to pick you up and will return you in the morning…we’ll all done this, i have…if VOSA see you doing this they will nick you apparently, obviously in practice you won’t have your Mrs drive right up to the lorry and start unloading your kit, but in theory at least thats supposed to be the case.Cobblers? Yes i think its cobblers too, certainly it’s moral cobblers as what i do in my time is my business, but the trainer insisted this is the case.
Presumably you could walk home over 8 hours and that would be legal?, no i’m flumoxed as well.
What we supposed to do, take covert avoidance training in order to throw off the VOSA spy tailing you, Mr Bond…
I agree with you, it’s cobblers. As I said above, the LAW states that you, as a driver, must be free to dispose of your time as you please during a rest period. Trouble is, as you well know, DCPC trainers are a law unto themselves, easiest thing to do would be to replace them with a DVD.
Fatboy slimslow:
Ring the wife up thirty mins prior to parking up,
why would you take your tacho out if you are on a night out? Even if you are getting the other half to pick you up you are claiming a night out (no law states you must sleep in the truck), you would leave the tacho in to show your daily rest
scanny77:
Fatboy slimslow:
why would you take your tacho out if you are on a night out? Even if you are getting the other half to pick you up you are claiming a night out (no law states you must sleep in the truck), you would leave the tacho in to show your daily rest
most lads ( SCREWDRIVERS ) take their digis out when they have a night out 
so they can move three inches in the layby 
when the car in front has disappeared!
that’s why when i was a shunter for ten years the firm loved that i had a class 1,driver rings up 10 minutes away,i’m out of hours (outside their house).dont worry we’re sending the shunter out to get ya back
scanny77:
Fatboy slimslow:
Ring the wife up thirty mins prior to parking up,why would you take your tacho out if you are on a night out? Even if you are getting the other half to pick you up you are claiming a night out (no law states you must sleep in the truck), you would leave the tacho in to show your daily rest
There’s no legal requirement to leave the card in overnight, it’s a matter of personal preference.
mick.mh2racing:
DOn’t think I’d do a night out for 10 minutes. Either pull your card and chance it or do a print out and make up an excuse about heavy traffic and looking for somewhere to park up. Don’t make a habit of it and I’d say you’ll be fine,
Tin hat on ready for a flaming.
10 minutes as long as it’s not a regular occurence is no problem.
If you were to have a bump or get pulled in those ten mins, then if the card was still in you have infringed the drivers hours and it is up to the discretion of whoever pulls you, if the card is out you are committing fraud, no longer a motoring offence but now a criminal one.
Juddian:
I have put this post in another thread but its valid here i think…seeing as its not apparently legal for the company to recover the driver AT ALL if they run out of hours (not driving time), according to what we were told they can recover the lorry but not you…here goes…On a similar note this gem was told to us on the last DCPC module.
OK you’ve worked right up to your 15 hour limit and managed to park up at the services 20 miles from your house.
Your Mrs pops out in the car to pick you up and will return you in the morning…we’ll all done this, i have…if VOSA see you doing this they will nick you apparently, obviously in practice you won’t have your Mrs drive right up to the lorry and start unloading your kit, but in theory at least thats supposed to be the case.Cobblers? Yes i think its cobblers too, certainly it’s moral cobblers as what i do in my time is my business, but the trainer insisted this is the case.
Presumably you could walk home over 8 hours and that would be legal?, no i’m flumoxed as well.
What we supposed to do, take covert avoidance training in order to throw off the VOSA spy tailing you, Mr Bond…
Like you, I’m shocked at the amount of inaccuracy, error and downright lies I’ve heard from DCPC trainers.
They seem to have an MMTM licence and get paid to do it! I’m doing another module tomorrow, can’t wait…
Could you not argue that if you were free to dispose of your time as you want then you are happy to accept a lift back from the company as you have no other way of returning home. If they stop paying you at the point your shift runs out then technically you are not at work.
8wheels:
Could you not argue that if you were free to dispose of your time as you want then you are happy to accept a lift back from the company as you have no other way of returning home. If they stop paying you at the point your shift runs out then technically you are not at work.
once my duty times up and im not getting paid I would tell them to forget it as once you do that then it would become a regular occurrence. Give them a yard and they’ll take a mile some companys 
If you have to be back then I would be questioning the planners in the office as obviously they are not planning the driver work to keep him within the legal requirements.