ADR C job Nr Hinckley Leics - NEWBIES MOST WELCOME

NEW AND WANNABE DRIVERS (INTERACTIVE)
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I called Tina and Newbies are VERY welcome and encouraged to apply…

Job Title LGV C ADR TANKER DRIVER HIN/34570
Location LEICESTER AREA (Nr Hinckley)
Hours 5 on, 3 off
Wage £10.00 - £15.00 per hour
Work Pattern Days , Weekends
EmployerManpower UK Ltd
Employer RefMinibulk
Closing Date08/09/2008
Pension No details held
Duration TEMPORARY ONLY (Ongoing 6 month renewable contract)
Description
Manpower Logistics are the sole provider of LGV drivers to Calor. We are currently recruiting LGV C (Class 2) ADR tanker drivers to deliver LPG gas to commercial and domestic dwellings. You will be equipped with state of the art on board scheduling equipment to determine your route and deliveries. All drivers will be required to work a 5 on 3 off shift pattern working days starting around 06.00am. The assignment offer a minimum of 42.5 hours per week at £10.00 with overtime paid after 42.5 and at weekends at £15.00, For more information or to arrange an interview please contact the on site team on 01455 271 316.
How to apply
You can apply for this job by telephoning 01455 271316 and asking for Tina McAra.

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Thanks for posting that up ROG. :grimacing:

To do this job, you’ll need a “Cat C” driving licence PLUS an ADR licence valid for at least Tanks and UN Class 2 (Gases.)

A provider that I work for does a lot of training for Calor Gas on the above subjects, so running a tailored ADR course in the Leicester area wouldn’t be a problem, but it would be subject to numbers in order to make it viable. The course would need 3.5 days to cover the required subjects and to allow time to sit the exams.

There are proposals to alter the way that this is done, so I’d advise that people wishing to do this should read my answer to gsm31 HERE.

:smiley: I’d also point out that propane tankers are relatively easy to operate. :grimacing:

Be quick to avoid disappointment. :wink:

Here’s a pic of what a driving licence “Cat C” propane tanker looks like:
(There are also larger tankers with three axles that are still “Cat C.”)

For hauling from refinery to bottling plants and distribution depots, they tend to use artics though:

I’d say that this represents a good way to get into tanker driving, and might lead other tanker driving jobs when you have some real experience gained by driving the Cat C tankers in the first pic.
You’ll have genuine experience then. :wink:

Good luck guys. :smiley:

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It seems to me that Calor are always on the look out for drivers, they seem unwilling to train drivers on the ADR regs, and the drivers with ADR are happier in jobs elsewhere. £10 an hour does not sound a great deal for taking on the responsibility for a gas tanker.

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Chas Malthouse:
It seems to me that Calor are always on the look out for drivers, they seem unwilling to train drivers on the ADR regs, and the drivers with ADR are happier in jobs elsewhere. £10 an hour does not sound a great deal for taking on the responsibility for a gas tanker.

But as the first rung on the ladder for a newbie :question: :question: :question: :bulb: :bulb: :bulb:

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Chas Malthouse:
It seems to me that Calor are always on the look out for drivers, they seem unwilling to train drivers on the ADR regs,

Hi Chas Malthouse, the first part might well be true, but I’d say that’s because the work tends to be seasonal.
The guys tend to get themselves fixed up during the slack spell, then don’t bother going back.
There are some drivers who are on this job year after year, and do a bit of agency work to plug the gap. I guess that everybody does what suits them best. :smiley:

I’m sorry mate, but from my experience, the second part isn’t true.
I regularly train Calor Gas drivers on ADR, both for packages and tankers for initial courses and refreshers.
My next course is already booked, and my next victims (sorry, candidates :laughing: ) are in the Leeds/Bradford area. :grimacing:

Chas Malthouse:
…£10 an hour does not sound a great deal for taking on the responsibility for a gas tanker.

IMHO, the responsibility isn’t that great really.
It’s all about driving safely and following the correct site procedures, if you do that, the job is a doddle in all honesty. :smiley:
A tenner an hour isn’t bad for such a straightforward job on rigids IMHO.

I’ve done the propane job and I’m ex-British Gas myself although my main job was to drive an artic on refinery to depot work covering BG depots in the North-West. :wink:

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Points taken from the 2 previous posts. :blush:

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Chas Malthouse:
Points taken from the 2 previous posts. :blush:

Hi Chas Malthouse, You made good and fair points mate, I just tried to keep everything in balance. :smiley:

It is daunting at first when you consider how dangerous propane actually is, but the safety systems they have in place these days are very stringent and high-tech, which keeps the guys safe. :smiley:

:open_mouth: In terms of the degree of danger, ADR has propane and petrol as equal. :open_mouth:

I still reckon this is a great job for tanker newbies to gain experience. :grimacing:

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£10 an hour can be earned driving without an ADR

ADR if you pay for it yourself should really be at least £12 an hour to re-coup your costs.

£10 is fine if they pay to put you through the ADR course.

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26 years an Lgv Trainer:
£10 an hour can be earned driving without an ADR

Hi 26, Yes that’s true mate, but unlikely on Cat “C” I think.

26 years an Lgv Trainer:
ADR if you pay for it yourself should really be at least £12 an hour to re-coup your costs.

Maybe.
Another way to look at this is that ADR will make you eligible for a job that you otherwise weren’t allowed to do before and therefore broadens your appeal to prospective employers. :grimacing:

26 years an Lgv Trainer:
£10 is fine if they pay to put you through the ADR course.

The thing is that this is the newbies forum, and therefore not all of newbies would be considered for employment without something that sets them apart from other candidates.

This job is great as a stepping stone for somebody wishing to get into driving tankers.
They do this for a propane ‘season’ then they can go onwards to better jobs having gained that vital experience of driving Cat C and tankers all in one go. :wink:

After that, it’s whatever they make of it for themselves. :smiley:

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Hi i think Rog had it right when he said things like first rung ang cat C and experience. I can only speak from my own experience. I have always wanted to drive tankers. I have been driving for a living in one form or another for about 8 years. Its only been the last couple of years that i have been driving Lgv’s. From experience i can say one of the biggest hurdles any newcomer will face is actually geting a job that is better paid than a van or 7.5 tonne job. This gas job seems like a good stepping stone to me and once your Adr trained it doesnt really matter what you carry as long as you do it safely and follow all the regs. Im driving a 6 wheeler tanker at the moment for a petrol company. I took this job becasue i knew it would be a good foundation for getting on to the petrol tankers and the big money. All i can say to anyone thinking of going this way is be prepared to do a job you might not really want to do, to ultimately achieve your ambition. I just applied for a job with Hoyer and im hoping my experience will count for something even though its limited.

p.s. I love tanker work, but its not for everyone. Ask around and make sure its what you want before commiting to anything. Im open to questions about my experience so far and good luck to anyone who goes down a similar route. Its a long hard road but you will get to the ■■■■■■■■■ eventually. Just be patient.

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So would companies like Calor put you through the ADR course themeselves or would you have to be ADR trained before you applied for it? And how much driving experience would you need before you applied for these kind of jobs?

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steamer:
So would companies like Calor put you through the ADR course themeselves

Hi steamer, You’d stand a much better chanceof free ADR training at Calor’s expense if you already worked for them, say in the filling plant, and then expressed a wish to go out on the road. Promotion from within so to say.
If you took this route, first you’d probably be on cylinder deliveries, then you could progress to mini-bulkers (first pic above) then you might get a job on artics…
Coming at this from the outside, you’d need to phone the number given in the advert and speak to the horse’s mouth to get good info.
Calor Gas and the agency will already have agreed criteria for prospective drivers, so your phone call should get you some good answers.

steamer:
or would you have to be ADR trained before you applied for it?

From the way that the advert is written, I’d say you’d need to be able to produce an LGV Cat “C” driving licence and a valid ADR certificate covering at least Tanks and UN Class 2 (gases) at the initial interview stage.

steamer:
And how much driving experience would you need before you applied for these kind of jobs?

That’s a very good question mate, because there’s nothing set in concrete about this.
Again, I’d advise you to phone the number given in the advert, so that you get accurate info.

It might pay you to get yourself ADR trained, if you’re interested in this kind of job, due to the necessary time lag between booking the next available ADR course, then waiting for your certificate to come from DVLA, Swansea. You might need to allow a couple of months for this, depending on where you live.
The propane season will be upon us soon, which is why I guess they’re recruiting now, so that they can deal with screening the candidates and the necessary driving assessments and intro to the specifics of propane tanks.

If you let me know your location, I could give you the contact details for ADR providers in your area, if you’re not already ADR qualified. :smiley:

:wink: Sometimes, you have to speculate in order to accumulate. :grimacing:

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If you filled it with helium could you drive it on a 7.5t licence? :laughing:

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I’d love to do this job. :smiley:
Two things stopping me, the distance and lack of funds to pay for an ADR Certificate. I spent all our dosh on the C&E.:cry:
I’d be happy to gain experience with Tankers and get £10 P/H. Seems fab to me.

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dinosteveus1:
I’d love to do this job. :smiley:
Two things stopping me, the distance and lack of funds to pay for an ADR Certificate. I spent all our dosh on the C&E.:cry:
I’d be happy to gain experience with Tankers and get £10 P/H. Seems fab to me.

IMO - you spent your money wisely in getting the CE as it opens up more options.

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ROG:

dinosteveus1:
I’d love to do this job. :smiley:
Two things stopping me, the distance and lack of funds to pay for an ADR Certificate. I spent all our dosh on the C&E.:cry:
I’d be happy to gain experience with Tankers and get £10 P/H. Seems fab to me.

IMO - you spent your money wisely in getting the CE as it opens up more options.

I’m beginning to think I should have left the HIAB and did the ADR. :cry:

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dieseldave can you give us a rough figure on how much it would cost to get the qualifications to operate this type of tanker. thanks.

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i have applied, its an hours drive each day from me to and from work, but worth a go

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robina:
i have applied, its an hours drive each day from me to and from work, but worth a go

Nice one :smiley:
Good luck :stuck_out_tongue:

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Chas Malthouse:
dieseldave can you give us a rough figure on how much it would cost to get the qualifications to operate this type of tanker. thanks.

Hi chas Malthouse, ADR providers have (presently) the option to offer from a ‘pick-and-mix’ style menu.

The barest minimum you’d need for this job is:

Core module (= 1.5 days)
Tanker module (= 1.5 days)
UN Class 2 (= 1.5 hours)
Plus the exams for the above three modules (40mins + 30mins + 25mins)
Making a total of 3.5 days

Most providers would be able to accomodate this, but you’d probably not get a course like this that would begin on a Monday and end at Wednesday lunchtime, because the above is ‘tailor made’ from a menu.

More likely would be that you’d attend in the following pattern:
Some variations to this are permitted by SQA.

Core module = All day on a Monday, plus Tuesday morning.
UN Class 2 = Wednesday morning 09:00 - 10:30 (only)
Thursday = Exams for the above = Thursday 09:00 - 10:30 (only)
Thursday = Start of tanker module = 13:00 - 16:30 (ish)
Friday = 09:00 - 15:30, followed by the tanker exam = 15:30 - 16:00 (ish)

Times other than those above are for the rest of the class to be taught the parts that you haven’t selected.
(The packages module plus the other UN classes.)

To do the parts that you need would involve the ‘tailor made’ course, but it would probably be relatively expensive. One provider that I work for does do this ‘customising’ but it depends on a sufficient number of candidates to make it viable.
The main reasons for the additional expense is the fact that it’s done on a ‘mobile’ teaching licence and so there’s classroom rent plus tutor accomodation and travel costs, which wouldn’t normally be factors if the course was run at home base.

:wink: As to costs, I’d advise you to phone around, because there is quite some variation in prices. :grimacing:
But now at least you know what to ask for. :wink:

If you’re giving it serious thought, it might pay you to get a quote for the ‘whole’ course, because if you just do the minimum, you’re stuck with just tankers and just the gas industry. Given that there’s so much of your own downtime, it might be an idea to do the lot in one fell swoop, then it’s ‘job done’ and you can approach many more firms in various sectors of the chemical industry-- just a thought. :wink:

When getting quotes for ADR training PLEASE ask whether the price quoted includes V.A.T. and exam fees. After all, you wouldn’t want any nasty surprises-- it’s in your own interests to ask. :wink:

I hope this helps. :smiley: